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sensay

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Conor9900 said:
Correct Sensay. To reject an ITA because you want to collect more points is utterly nonsensical
I dont understand what people are thinking about EE point system but i guess CIC should clarify that getting higher points doesn't mean someone will get direct citizenship rather than becoming a permanent resident. ;D

And to the member who didnt accept ITA my question is yes i agree you spent money to get PNP but now you are spending your time waiting for it..and so dont you think time is money?
 

kryt0n

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Also, not all cases are black and white. Wish it were so. We can't prove Canadian work experience for my spouse so so far haven't declared it in EE profile and if we did we would get points for it. If we get an ITA while trying to work this out we may have to decline it, plus a bunch of other crap about IEC implied status and what not. Anyway, right now mine is fuxked up. Even considered withdrawing the app last night but if they have already picked people for ITA ready for today then a decline is inevitable.
 

dobes

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dukhi said:
what address should i put in than?? the address of my Canadian employer? or the address where i was getting training that is of US??
My guess is the address of the Canadian employer, and then list your time in the US on your travel section, and the reason for your travel is training.
 

branded_man

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@lin123
: I am not trying to defend those cretins who do not read and realize to fill everything as it is during the time of filling ee profile.
But explaining that everyone who declined ita are not in the same boat. Also many fill their foreign experience thinking that if they do not tell about it it would be lying as cic already has that info for people already in canada in their foss system.
In my case I waited till march 22 to create profile as my work permit got expired on that day which was based on the lmo ( and I knew I would get 600 points if I made a profile before that date)

unlike many others I have kept each n every tax papers along with direct deposit bank slips for records of my foreign experience but again I only wanted to walk the path of accepting ita if I was not given aor for my pnp on time.

and also someone declined itas due to glitches of cic world class it systems lol
 

ButterflyChemist

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Jun 24, 2014
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branded_man said:
@ lin123
: I am not trying to defend those cretins who do not read and realize to fill everything as it is during the time of filling ee profile.
But explaining that everyone who declined ita are not in the same boat. Also many fill their foreign experience thinking that if they do not tell about it it would be lying as cic already has that info for people already in canada in their foss system.
In my case I waited till march 22 to create profile as my work permit got expired on that day which was based on the lmo ( and I knew I would get 600 points if I made a profile before that date)

unlike many others I have kept each n every tax papers along with direct deposit bank slips for records of my foreign experience but again I only wanted to walk the path of accepting ita if I was not given aor for my pnp on time.

and also someone declined itas due to glitches of cic world class it systems lol
In their haste to become PR many persons are doing themselves a disservice. Long before its launch it was stated that you only have 2 months to submit your application once an ITA is received. Whats the point of creating an EE profile if you application isn't close to the point of readiness? Whats the point of creating a profile only then to remove it because in your haste you entered your NOC incorrectly or didn't take the time to review the profile before submission. Relax and take a breath. Canada isn't going anywhere.

With any new system there will be glitches. Rushing in to be among the first will make you a guinea pig of sorts. I have an approved and valid job offer supported by an LMIA and I haven't yet created a profile because I wanted to see the system in action. If you have no immediate time restrictions a month or two will make no difference in attaining residency. Take your time and do things properly, that way you only have to do it once and with minimum stress and increase in blood pressure.

I wish everyone good luck.
 

asdf-1234+

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i agree with this post. i hate it when i read people saying "should I lie or should I not lie"... OBVIOUSLY you shouldn't because they're gonna ask you for your information that you lied about, and then you won't be able to provide for it. Other than the really complicated situations that some people have, other people that are just dying to fake information about themselves just so they can get an ITA should stop. Clearly CIC isn't giving out ITAs as much as we want them to,... and then when these fake accounts or people with accounts that are made up of lies are given the ITAs, (which could range from tens to hundreds from each draw), this leaves others that are genuinely interested to apply in limbo while they wait and wait and wait for their ITA.

And i don't understand what's the big deal if you're invited under FSW or CEC. At least you got an ITA. Just give all the information they want, and give them all the papers to support it.
 

katja2684

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I fail to comprehend why people would be concerned about others rejecting their ITA.
What you put in your profile is entirely your responsibility, why would I care what someone else does?
If you lie, that's again your business, if CIC finds out, you'll bear the consequences.If not, you're a lucky pigeon lol.
Yes mistakes will happen because the online system is new and contains glitches.
I'm a person who had never dealt with CIC before, and it's an exhausting experience trying to understand their rules.
 

dobes

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Teddy2015 said:
I don't think it's fair to say that because the question "Do you have a job offer in Canada" was very misleading because CIC have always stated that an LMIA supported job offer is called a "VALID job offer" so a lot of us thought the question just meant do you have a job because on the same page it asks do you have LMIA and I said NO. I had my funds as $3000 and then got an invitation to apply under FSW. I had to decline it and wait for CEC. A lot of people got caught with that question. It's an easy mistake to make!
I made that "mistake", if it is one. I said yes, I had a job offer, and no to LMIA. I still maintain that because it didn't say VALID job offer, my interpretation is completely understandable and honest. I did not get 600 points for a valid job offer, but I do have a request for my job offer on my FSW PR document list, and I have uploaded that. I would never consider that a reason to decline FSW.

The funds are a trickier thing, and I can see why you declined with only $3000, though I think I would have contacted CIC by mail before doing that. It is not yet clear to me whether CIC will count my open work permit salary toward proof of my funds. I do have, separately, the required funds, though. I think it is possible that you got the FSW invitation because, even though you didn't have the 600-point LMIA, you had a job, and they would have been willing to take your salary as proof of funds. It does not say that on the CIC website, I know, but when I called CIC they said of course my salary will count. We shall see! I don't have that in writing.
 

DHM

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lin123 said:
Honestly, it's not rocket science to fill out the profile. Especially with help from this forum.

I don't get why I'm seeing so many posts about people having to decline their invitation because of wrong info provided.
Like seriously, if you can't even read and understand how to fill in dates for work experience (for example) you shouldn't be applying for express entry.
God damn it!

It's ridiculous, you can't be that desperate to get an ITA just so you have to refuse it. Stop wasting other people's time and opportunity.
CIC really needs to put something in to filter out these stupid people or "people that act stupid".
Hello - an observation from a loooong-time reader of this forum and other Canadian immigration material.

The EE system has been discussed in detail from all sides in the forum, by people who are very familiar with it. However, you have to recognise that not everyone who asks a crazy sounding question will be as familiar with it as yourselves. There are many other sources of info and this certainly isn’t the only or first site that people read when they want to migrate to Canada. Some of those are really very vague and the people you're referring to may have visited those in good faith first. The formal CIC guidance for example has shown itself to be extremely unhelpful, and it’s the actual case stories in this forum which have clarified things for many people where that information has fallen short. Some very smart people have made errors in their preparation, often making the same kind of mistake - which suggests a guidance and process problem, not an applicant issue (I author guidance documents and would flag this pattern of queries up as a critical issue, and take steps to clarify the advice given). Risk takers will also take advantage of vague instructions, and to be honest, everyone here is taking a risk in one way or another.

The number and type of posts about rejecting ITAs suggests to me that there’s also a body of applicants who are affected by CIC massaging the numbers by offering FSW to CEC hopefuls. I gather that once an ITA has been offered, the CEC and FSW applications are subtly different. The effect of this on the surprised applicants is that they get 60 days to prepare an application from a slightly different perspective - hence (perhaps?) more risk taking, haste and errors, or rejected invitations. I could be wrong about that – but I’m very close to one case where this is exactly the situation, and there are plenty of others judging by the posts.

So I’m not sure it’s fair to yell at frustrated, less informed, sometimes desperate people who are in a hurry to satisfy a demanding, opaque and ultimately political application process.