Spouse TRV approved

[brittanyquesada]

I agree alot of people discouraged me (Canadian) and my husband (Costa Rican) for applying for a TRV. We've been together over 3 years and in those 3 years we applied 3 different times all to be rejected. Therefore I was always going to Costa Rica which obviously becomes costly. I had given up on applying for TRV for the future, then finally my mother convinced me and we did more research, got in contact with the right people, found out what we should change/improve and add etc. We applied last month and FINALLY my husbands TRV was approved!! We took a leap of faith buying his ticket.

I suggest writing and attaching a very good "letter of explanation" . I was advised this is where I could address all the points of where he was refused previously. For us it was financial (which was ridiculous but whatever) , travel history (he had none, just to Panama), ties to canada/costa rica not strong enough and one of the times it was purpose of travel/length of travel... (which is stupid?) anyway. so we addressed those .. we bought the ticket showing we had the finance to buy his return ticket to leave the country. so they couldn't say he didn thave the money, i attached both my parents (the people inviting him to our house) mine, and his bank statements/paychecks/ all IDs (both parents work for the government) there gov id, my work id, drivers license, passports birth certificates (all Canadian).
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my husband got his boss to write all the stuff required for 'employment reference letter' and "proof of finance" to say he has 3 months off and it wont afffect his employment with them, what he makes/how long he's been there.

we also attached that he has a bit of land in Costa Rica too. (the official documents) + translation

we explained he doesn't have any travel history as he is only 24 and was in university, and then working therefore had no time or extra money to spend. and really how is he supposed to show that he has travelled to Canada or the US to prove he has good travel history IF THEY DON'T GIVE HIM A CHANCE.. LOL. anyway I know its a risk for them. I also attached my passport which has about 12 stamps in the last 3 years of be travelling back and forth to visit him and I have never gone against the law and overstayed etc. and I included that he knew the consequences if he didn't leave after his time was up.

as for purpose of visit and length of visit we did the same thing as before (3 months) which seems like a lot but he won't need to work as we have the money to support his while he's here. and we didnt have a very detailed itinerary but he is coming today (OCT 17) was supposed to be here by thanksgiving to spend that with my family, next month is our 1 year anniversary, december for christmas and new years. that was our purpose.

SO basically we just wrote that we had substantial changes and explained what they were and where in the application the proof could be found. etc. so definitely this application was a lot stronger than our previous ones.

Just make sure to explain to them what are the changes.

 

[PrayerWarrior]

I agree alot of people discouraged me (Canadian) and my husband (Costa Rican) for applying for a TRV. We've been together over 3 years and in those 3 years we applied 3 different times all to be rejected. Therefore I was always going to Costa Rica which obviously becomes costly. I had given up on applying for TRV for the future, then finally my mother convinced me and we did more research, got in contact with the right people, found out what we should change/improve and add etc. We applied last month and FINALLY my husbands TRV was approved!! We took a leap of faith buying his ticket.

I suggest writing and attaching a very good "letter of explanation" . I was advised this is where I could address all the points of where he was refused previously. For us it was financial (which was ridiculous but whatever) , travel history (he had none, just to Panama), ties to canada/costa rica not strong enough and one of the times it was purpose of travel/length of travel... (which is stupid?) anyway. so we addressed those .. we bought the ticket showing we had the finance to buy his return ticket to leave the country. so they couldn't say he didn thave the money, i attached both my parents (the people inviting him to our house) mine, and his bank statements/paychecks/ all IDs (both parents work for the government) there gov id, my work id, drivers license, passports birth certificates (all Canadian) ...

SO basically we just wrote that we had substantial changes and explained what they were and where in the application the proof could be found. etc. so definitely this application was a lot stronger than our previous ones.

Just make sure to explain to them what are the changes.

Hey Brittanyquesada, your post is also very encouraging
Congratulations on your husband getting his TRV, your perseverance really did pay off!
I wish you both a FANTASTIC time together in Canada!

Based on what you said, your 4th application seemed pretty strong to me!
You did things a little bit different than myself and my wife did. However, we did buy our return plane tickets already to show that we have the funds to make the trip happen and effect my departure. That was also a big leap of faith for us.
I never necessarily drew their attention to significant changes, however, we addressed each of their highlighted reasons for refusal the first time, by providing the necessary information or additional evidence.

Given that I never had a TRV, my wife never travelled to my country, but we met up in the US a few times because it was closer for her, so she could make it back to work, etc. So right now, I've submitted my TRV application two days ago, and it's definitely stronger than our first application, so we are holding on to faith and believing that it will be granted

Once again, have a great three months with your hubby Brittanyquesada, you guys deserve it after being so persistent in going after that TRV. Quick question, I'm just curious when you said "got in contact with the right people," what do you mean? Did you go through a Immigration Lawyer/Consultant or travel agency? Or did you just speak to other people with experience and by so doing received valuable advice? Also, how long did it take him to get his TRV?

 

[bubbly00]

Hi all,

My trv has been approved today. My spouse is studing inc anada and went last month.
I am posting this because this forum ahs really discouraged me for Spouse TRV claiming it to have less success chances.

Thank you MikeyMike for your encouragement and lot of advise on different threads. I also copied ut itenerary.

I am so happy and relieved.

its a case to case basis i guess, I am from philippines and married to a canadian citizen in April 2013. i tried to apply for a TRV early this year, included everything i could to have an approval, ( employment, travel history, fundings, assets ) but i was refused = family ties

my family is all living in UK, and I am in Philippines with my mum's relatives. it was quite upsetting to get a refusal and just went to the sponsorship route around july 2013 and im getting worried of waiting.. i hope you guys could give me tips too.. i am new to this site and i couldnt find mikeymike's post,,

 

[cyy8913]

Haha, I'm touched! I'm glad I could help you out! Yes you're right, I think a lot of people here are wrong in assuming that a TRV is nearly impossible to get as a spouse of a Canadian. Yes it's not easy, but not something like "99% refusal rate" or "you will very likely be refused, don't try". Part of it might be luck, but I believe a majority of it is how strong your application is.

My wife is from a country that's notoriously difficult to get a TRV (Vietnam), and it's also one of 30 some countries that require biometric data because it's an extremely high risk country. But guess what? She not only got a TRV while married to a Canadian, she got one that lasted the life of her passport and is a multiple! We sent in lots of extra documents like criminal records, my income tax info, we handwrote our letters to CIC rather than type, etc. Little things like that I think helped sway the VO to our favor.

Congrats ankris, and I hope you enjoy your stay in Canada! Hope you got a multiple TRV.

Mike,

My Chinese fiancee and I (Canadian PR) are going to get married soon. Knowing that spousal PR can take up to 2 years, I intend to help her apply a visitor visa. She never travels abroad. Do you know if I can invite her to Canada to get married (Is this even a valid support for her visitor visa application). Or we'd better off to get married in China first then use family reunification as support to apply for a visitor visa?

Thank you.

 

[mikeymyke]

Mike,

My Chinese fiancee and I (Canadian PR) are going to get married soon. Knowing that spousal PR can take up to 2 years, I intend to help her apply a visitor visa. She never travels abroad. Do you know if I can invite her to Canada to get married (Is this even a valid support for her visitor visa application). Or we'd better off to get married in China first then use family reunification as support to apply for a visitor visa?

Thank you.

It only takes that long if your case has lots of problems or red flags. For Chinese citizens, she should get PR in 6-10 months, Beijing is a relatively fast office.

Never traveling abroad might make it hard for her to get a visitor visa, as she has no travel history. Yes you can technically get married when she's here on a visitor visa, but this is generally frowned upon by officers as the visitor visa becomes a long term stay visa, especially since your wife is from non visa exempt country. Yes you should be honest about your intentions to marry, if you're caught in a lie, your wife could get an exclusion order banning her from entering Canada for 1-2 years.

You're much better off getting married in China, then applying for a visitor visa later. Don't believe the people who say it's impossible, it's not, look at my wife's case. Although her success of getting a TRV will depend on her personal background.

 

[brittanyquesada]

Hey Brittanyquesada, your post is also very encouraging
Congratulations on your husband getting his TRV, your perseverance really did pay off!
I wish you both a FANTASTIC time together in Canada!

Based on what you said, your 4th application seemed pretty strong to me!
You did things a little bit different than myself and my wife did. However, we did buy our return plane tickets already to show that we have the funds to make the trip happen and effect my departure. That was also a big leap of faith for us.
I never necessarily drew their attention to significant changes, however, we addressed each of their highlighted reasons for refusal the first time, by providing the necessary information or additional evidence.

Given that I never had a TRV, my wife never travelled to my country, but we met up in the US a few times because it was closer for her, so she could make it back to work, etc. So right now, I've submitted my TRV application two days ago, and it's definitely stronger than our first application, so we are holding on to faith and believing that it will be granted

Once again, have a great three months with your hubby Brittanyquesada, you guys deserve it after being so persistent in going after that TRV. Quick question, I'm just curious when you said "got in contact with the right people," what do you mean? Did you go through a Immigration Lawyer/Consultant or travel agency? Or did you just speak to other people with experience and by so doing received valuable advice? Also, how long did it take him to get his TRV?

So far everything is going great, he's been here for 3 weeks!

We talked to our local MP / his assistant and they were able to help get notes I think from his previous applications (not 100% sure as my mom was the one talking to them and not me) and they had contacts with immigration for advice on what we should change.

Another family friend had contacts with immigration (not sure who though) and they just told us what exactly we should change and kind of made me feel more confident that it would be approved if we made those changes but not guaranteed

Good luck getting the VISA! keep us updated!

 

[PrayerWarrior]

So far everything is going great, he's been here for 3 weeks!

We talked to our local MP / his assistant and they were able to help get notes I think from his previous applications (not 100% sure as my mom was the one talking to them and not me) and they had contacts with immigration for advice on what we should change.

Another family friend had contacts with immigration (not sure who though) and they just told us what exactly we should change and kind of made me feel more confident that it would be approved if we made those changes but not guaranteed

Good luck getting the VISA! keep us updated!

Great! We didn't get the visa on my second try, but we have reapplied for the 3rd time and I'm all smiles! ;D

 

[jeet dhani]

HELLO EVERYONE,,

I APPLIED FOR SOWP IN SEPT YESTERDAY I GOT THE PP WITH A LETTER OF REJECTION AND THE REASON WAS
1) PURPOSE OF TRAVEL JUST......

I DNT UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY WANT ,,, AS MY WIFE IS ON STUDENT PERMIT AND I HV CLEARLY MENTIONED THE PURPOSE IS TO SUPPORT HER BUT DNT KNW WHT THEY ACTUALLY WANT..... SO NOW I WANT TO APPLY FOR VISITOR VISA , PLS HELP FOR THE DOCUMENTS AS ACCORDING TO THE CHECKLIST I HV ALL THE DOCUMENTS BUT PLS HELP ME OUT THAT
WHAT TO BE WRITTEN IN PURPOSE OF TRAVEL?
AND DO I NEED TO BOOK TO AND FRO TICKET BEFORE APPLYING.

PLS HELP

 

[an1984]

Hello Everyone,

I must say that reading this forum has been a generally a depressing experience. I would like to brighten your day regarding this specific topic. There have been a lot of posts regarding TRVs for spouses and, sadly, a lot of failures to obtain the elusive visit visa.

Well, I would like to share my experience and a little advice about utilizing this forum.

Let me start with the experience:

I am a PR holder working in Canada and got married last year. As we prepared for the wedding, my wife and I put together an application for her to come and visit Canada after the wedding. We had not applied for sponsorship at that point yet as we figured it would take forever so we would get a visit visa first. She was summarily rejected (in 3 days!). As you can imagine, this was a big blow to both our excitement and our plans.

Following weeks of crying, wonderment and general anger, we decided that we needed help. I found a good immigration consultant who quickly dispelled my pre-held belief, which was perpetuated by this forum, that it was impossible to obtain a TRV for your spouse if you live in Canada. He assured me that we had made a mistake believing that it couldn't be done and informed me that he had worked with several families and had easily obtained visit visas for the spouse in each case. Although, in order to succeed, he assured us that we had to first apply for sponsorship.

Today, 2 months following the approval of our sponsorship application, my wife received a 5 year multi-entry TRV. I should also tell you that even with the rejection on her file, no steady job, travel to only four countries in her life and no assets, my wife was able to successfully obtain a visa. While you may think that it was simple luck, I honestly believe that there is a solution for each case.

Most of the stories told here are based on the singular experience of each poster. What we have here, is a small sample that mostly consists of failures due to reasons beyond our understanding. People with success stories do not come to this forum to post about how they did it. In most cases, they are not aware of the existence of this community. I wanted to share may experience to give you hope and to tell you that you should use this forum with the understanding that it has limited value. There are many nuances that are not mentioned on the CIC website, unknown to most people that my consultant helped us navigate. Do not underestimate experience with the CIC. Personally, i have decided never to deal with the CIC directly and to always go through a consultant.

While I understand that this may be too expensive for many, I would say that it is worth it. The pain and suffering to my marriage made it necessary and I, obviously, do not regret it.

My advice is to find someone who has successfully and systematically done what you are looking to do multiple times and follow their guidance just as you would with anything else (wouldn't you go to an experienced doctor as opposed to diagnosing yourself?).

By sharing my story, I hope to inspire others not to give up and to use their heads when pursuing this important step of reunification and please remember that all that we have is given to us by the grace of God.

 

[vnarayan]

Hello everyone,

I just filed for my Wife's PR who is from India. I sent our spousal sponsorship documents to Mississauga office. Waiting for the process to begin. I am a Canadian citizen residing in Ottawa area. I was just researching and planning about how to get my wife over here as soon as possible through visitor visa option as the processing time for PR spouse applications is taking on an average approx 8-10 months from India based on current 2014 applications posted on canada visa google spreasheets. For some cases, it has taken even more time. So, anyway I was going through all these posts and it gave me a sigh of relief and confidence to try for TRV for my spouse as many people in many other forums were quite negative about the TRV approval for the spouse while PR is in process. I also referred to some of the detailed posts by mikeymyke where he explains about what to write in the invitation letter etc etc...Thanks a lot for sharing your experience mikeymyke. I am planning to follow your strategy of producing the detailed letter of invitation and all other documents. Hope it works in my case also. Now, coming back to TRV, I actually have few questions:

1. Is it necessary to first wait for stage 1 sponsorship approval before you apply for visitor visa or does it really matter? I am planning to apply as soon as possible in another 2 weeks. Applying for visitor visa without getting the SA, will it hamper the visitor visa chances for my wife? I have already mentioned in my LOI that my Sponsorship application is in process, my client ID and that my wife will come back as she doesn't want to overstay and she has job back home etc etc. SO, should I wait for SA which is approx 57 days as of now or I can still go ahead and apply as it will not be making any difference to my wife's TRV application?

2. I want to know from people who got their spouses on visitor visa while PR is in process, is there a way that once your wife is here, is it possible to transfer the files from visa office back home (India) to Buffalo (USA) without impacting the PR timeline process or application process? Has anybody done this? Ideally, I would want my wife to just cross the border from Canada to USA and return back as PR rather than going all the way to India and returning back as PR.

Any replies or comments to these questions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot guys in advance for the help!

 

[Bryanna]

@vnarayan

Processing time of spouse PR applications at NDVO is currently 16 months (for 80% of PR applications processed until March 2015). This is after successful completion of Stage 1. Of course, every case is different and timelines can vary.

Your wife can get a TRV if she is able to demonstrate exceptionally strong reasons to return to India (employment/property ownership/financial situation/other dependent family/etc).... especially with a PR application in process.

CIC recommends applying for a PR from the country of nationality or a country to which the applicant has been legally admitted. This will avoid any unnecessary delays because CIC would then have to consult visa offices in other countries. Also do keep in mind that there are police clearances/background checks/etc to be done

 

[nnwanguma]

TRV Advice me

Hello,



Your email enquiry refers.



Please be advised that we are currently processing applications received 08 May 2015.



Your application was received 16 June 2015 and is currently awaiting processing.



In order to ensure fairness to all applicants, applications are processed in their order of submission, we cannot guarantee that your application will be processed in time to meet up with your scheduled travel date.



You are however at liberty to retrieve your passport should you require to make use of it during the course of your application processing.



Regards,

 

[vnarayan]

@ Bryanna,

Thanks for your reply. I agree with what you are saying.

As you are mentioning it is 16 months for 80% of the applications processed until March 2015 but I have been following people on canada visa google spreadsheets and the max I have seen so far for some of the cases is around 15 months from NDVO. Most of the cases on an average are between 7 - 10 months. Also, some of the cases have been processed within 5 months as well but of course they are very small in number. As per 2014 trend, it looks like very few cases have been done in around 5 months, and very few cases have taken around 15 months. The mean/average processing time looks to be around 7-10 months for almost all other remaining cases. I am just keeping my fingers crossed.

So, basically you are saying that she can get TRV as long as the ties are very strong back home and also you are saying that it is not possible to transfer the file to buffalo as that will involve more delay in the PR application. Is that correct?

 

[Bryanna]

@vnarayan

The 7-10 months you have mentioned for spouse PR at NDVO sounds quite encouraging.... compared to the 16 months that CIC has posted

btw the visa and immigration services of the Buffalo consulate is closed

I'm wondering if it's even possible to transfer a spouse PR application to a third country/region (not the applicant's country of nationality/legal admission) while the applicant remains in Canada

 

[zhouliehui]

Yes I got multiple till my passport expiry date....
I worked hard for my documentation and didnt leave any stone unturned to make them perfect! I think that really helps!!

I took 2 months to prepare documents and got visa within 3 days

can share with me what kinds of documents you prepared? I know as much as possible, but the scope is huge, birth cert, bank statements, ....