Spouse Open Work permit

[fkl]

I am new to this forum. I hope that experienced members of this forum would be able to offer advice and driving my wife's and kid application forward. I am a full time student in canada for master's degree. I applied for TRV for my wife and one of kids, but it was refused twice for the generic reasons. Now Having read from this forum, I am planning to apply OWP for her. I have 3 kids but only 2 of them dont need a visa to come to Canada. No I have some questions regarding this OWP and the visitor visa for my kid.

1. My passport student permit expire on May 7, 2015 and my student permit expires August 30th, 2015. But my study is expected to be completed in April 2016. I read in this forum about validity of study/work permit/TRV can affect getting OWP approved for spouse, I plan to apply for OWP for my wife in Sept and the processing time in my region is 6 months, can I still apply for her?

2. Can I apply for my kid as a visitor alongside her OWP application?

3. What are the documentations I would require this time for OWP and the visitor visa for my kid?

With two refusals, i suggest you should get gcms notes first to get detailed reasons of refusal and make sure you address those the next time you apply.

1. You can still apply but having validity of about 6 months or so for her sowp / trv (since it can only be issued till the expiry of your study permit) is a concern and it could go either way. If you apply for gcms notes, it would take a month to get those at least. I have seen people with shorter work contracts (a year only) submitting detailed letters from supervisors, explaining that their grants / program at a time cannot be longer. But the applicant's progress is good and they have every intention of renewing. This helped some body doing a post doc - get SOWP and trv for his family even when his current permit was due to expire in about 8-9 months when he applied. May be you could try something similar.

2. Sure - you can

3. It is hard to answer that generic a question. You should list what you think needs to be included and i can tell what else might be required. But generally your proof of relationship, kids birth certificate, proof of funds (for their stay for a year), police clearance, spouse's profile (education and work if any - since that would help). Any thing that can help with proving local ties. Of course your study permit, financial condition in Canada, recent feedback from your supervisor showing you are doing well over there etc. should be minimum

 

[tomdele]

Thanks. My program ends by April 2016 and I will be extending my study permit. However, from the letter given by the school, it states it will end by Dec 2016, so if I renew my study permit it will be extended till then. Given that she has been declined twice, is there any risks again if she apply for sowp? The reasons given for refusal relates to home ties, financial and not returning. But you know decisions sometimes do not seems logical.

For the sowp, I would like to add the following documentations:

1. Marriage certificate and lots of wedding photos
2. My wife pay stubs and letter from her office
3. My wife statements of accounts($7K) and my statements of accounts($13K) back home and ($10K) in my account here in Canada
4. My government allocated land
5. Letter from my office board of directors stating that I am still on their payroll and I am one of the founders
6.My TA contracts with my university
7. My pay stubs
8. Letter from the school stating that I am registered and my transcripts
9. Affidavit of support

Are there anything else I should add to these? Also my other two kids (US Citizen) dont need a visa to Visit Canada but do I include them in the application or omit them? I would like to consult widely before filing the sowp application and your advice and suggestions on this forum would be quite helpful.

 

[fkl]

She can be refused for the very same reasons again. It might turn out to be a missing document that you would only find mentioned in notes that you would over look otherwise.

Your financials should be able to classify your cost of education and distinguish it from funds available with you.

You should add your kids in family information form, but should not apply for their visas. However, you have to know that a visitor status in Canada would only allow them max 6 months stay in a single go. However, kids of temp foreign workers get visitor records that are valid equal to their study or work permit. E.g. my kids have trvs but they can stay as long as i am here with no requirement of max six months in one trip

 

[tomdele]

Of course there is every possibility that she can be refused again? But why did you say she can be refused? I am preventing that from happening and that is why I have turned to more experienced people who are many in this forum. Again are you saying I should apply for my kids as visitor or open study permit. She is 10 years old.

To avoid refusal on OWP, what are the compelling document(s) do you think I can include? The earlier background notes from CIC said she ought to have applied for OWP which the secretary of my MP told me when she called CIC.

 

[fkl]

Oh so you are saying that you DID APPLY FOR GCMS notes. I didn't realize that and the point i was trying to make was that if you don't have notes you might not realize the precise reason for refusal and worry about other docs instead of what they really focused upon.

For a 10 year old kid, you need to apply for open study permit. Just use the standard study permit forms with writing "not applicable" in institution details.

OWP is better because it shows a spouse's true intention i.e. she wants to live with her family till they are in Canada. Her experience letter and academic credentials, any property owned in Pakistan etc. should all serve as strong ties.

Detailed info from your academic supervisor for your program and satisfactory progress is also of vital importance. If you cover all listed, you should be good to go.

 

[tomdele]

Thanks. But what of other two kids? what do I apply for them? They hold a US passport. Again in one of the rejections they said who would take care of the two remaining kids because I didnt indicate that they would be following the mum to Canada on a visit. I would really need every suggestion in order to connect the right dots before applying.

 

[fkl]

@tomdele i would suggest sending an email asking for this (other two kids). Or ask a friend of yours in Canada to call cic helpline and ask about it.

I don't know if you should still apply for a trv for them - which basically serves as a longer visitor record permitting their stay beyond six months OR you could just indicate in your application that those kids have a US passport and hence dont require visa and the CBSA officer at port of entry sees this, and permits them to stay beyond six months on their visitor record.

But the above is just speculation. You have to check with CIC about it. Or ask it as a separate question where some one specific to this case would know.

P.S. Please ask specific question as a separate thread with a subject that best explains the question. You have a better chance of people replying to it who know the situation.

 

[bobbyputhenveettil]

hai, i WP Paper Application applied on 2nd july in new delhi still now no reply.plz tell me your updates

i am also an applicant applied on july 7 th waiting for a good news. my agency told me that now they get medical for an applicant who applied on june 25 that means u may get with in a week or two..

 

[bobbyputhenveettil]

hi guys i am also an applicant of SOWP submitted on july 7 in delhi embassy through VFS cehnnai. waiting for a good news with in couple of weeks. i already have 2 rejections before.. any one who applied in july plase reply me. share u r experience

 

[kamuvirk]

i am also an applicant applied on july 7 th waiting for a good news. my agency told me that now they get medical for an applicant who applied on june 25 that means u may get with in a week or two..

OWP Paper Application applied on 10th july with Medical
CHC New Delhi
Waiting

 

[jobin007ae]

hi i am also an applicant of SOWP submitted on july 2 in delhi embassy through VFS delhi. waiting for a good news with in couple of weeks. i already have 2 rejections before.. both of we r same situation .can u send ur mob no, my number is 09716420075. share u r experience

 

[jobin007ae]

hi guys i am also an applicant of SOWP submitted on july 7 in delhi embassy through VFS cehnnai. waiting for a good news with in couple of weeks. i already have 2 rejections before.. any one who applied in july plase reply me. share u r experience

hi i am also an applicant of SOWP submitted on july 2 in delhi embassy through VFS delhi. waiting for a good news with in couple of weeks. i already have 2 rejections before.. both of we r same situation .can u send ur mob no, my number is 09716420075. share u r experience

 

[PP62]

Hi... I m from India...My husband is on work permit in Canada valid till November 2015. I have applied to Delhi CIC office for OPW on 10th July 2014 via VFS office (paper base application), my medical updated after 21st July 2014. I am fall in healthcare profession. Generally OPW takes 25 days to 1 month .but its 16th Aug, no reply .really worried
Please suggest me something?

 

[bobbyputhenveettil]

hi i am also an applicant of SOWP submitted on july 2 in delhi embassy through VFS delhi. waiting for a good news with in couple of weeks. i already have 2 rejections before.. both of we r same situation .can u send ur mob no, my number is 09716420075. share u r experience

u can cal me on 08281546177

 

[bobbyputhenveettil]

Hi... I m from India...My husband is on work permit in Canada valid till November 2015. I have applied to Delhi CIC office for OPW on 10th July 2014 via VFS office (paper base application), my medical updated after 21st July 2014. I am fall in healthcare profession. Generally OPW takes 25 days to 1 month .but its 16th Aug, no reply .really worried
Please suggest me something?

now thy are busy on student visa processing, may me little wait for the result. me also in same condition applied on july 7 , 2014