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Spouse banned for 5 years-Will it affect the Principal applicant PR file

paras1991

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Jun 26, 2015
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Mississauga, ON
Category........
NOC Code......
1311
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
20-08-2015
Doc's Request.
RCMP -23 Sep, submitted-23 Sep 2015
AOR Received.
20-8-2015
Med's Done....
29 Aug-Passed
Passport Req..
07 jan 2016
LANDED..........
30 jan 2016
Hi all

My friend is on work permit working in NOC A. His wife had applied for work permit on the basis of my friend and got rejected. There was a confusion between the mailing and physical location of the business where my friend is working. In the employment letter of my friend, he has used the mailing address of business which is a residential address.

The officer refused the application and placed a ban of 5 years on my friends wife stating that the job of her husband is fake.

My friend was not aware of the fact that there is a one month deadline to appeal the decision. He did that after 1.5 months through "green and Spigel" lawyers.

Now after 4 months the judge has refused to give a hearing and the lawyers are saying that there is nothing can be done and even he cant apply for PR.

Need your views guys. His case is genuine and true. Is there anything he can do.? Can the decision of Federal court to not to even give the hearing be appealed?

Can he apply for PR with his wife being banned from Canada? If not, what if he give her divorce and apply for PR as single? And after 5 years remarry her and bring her here. Will this work?

Any views will be appreciated.

Thanks
 

Aquakitty

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I don't get it, if what you say is true, it would be a simple matter for them to check the business name and address. They must have seen he has a work permit at a different address?
 

paras1991

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Jun 26, 2015
266
10
Mississauga, ON
Category........
NOC Code......
1311
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
20-08-2015
Doc's Request.
RCMP -23 Sep, submitted-23 Sep 2015
AOR Received.
20-8-2015
Med's Done....
29 Aug-Passed
Passport Req..
07 jan 2016
LANDED..........
30 jan 2016
a letter of explanation was provided with an affidavit from employer. Still the application was refused. The office said he has called the office from India and no one has picked up. There is a 10hours time difference. Don't know when he called.

Is there anything that can be done?
 

TANMEX

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paras1991 said:
a letter of explanation was provided with an affidavit from employer. Still the application was refused. The office said he has called the office from India and no one has picked up. There is a 10hours time difference. Don't know when he called.

Is there anything that can be done?
What kind of work permit is this ? did the employer go through the Human recourses and got a Labor Market Opinion ? a labor market opinion can only be obtained by Genuine Business with at least 2 years of payroll record and registered with Canada Revenue Agency ??
 

paras1991

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Jun 26, 2015
266
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Mississauga, ON
Category........
NOC Code......
1311
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
20-08-2015
Doc's Request.
RCMP -23 Sep, submitted-23 Sep 2015
AOR Received.
20-8-2015
Med's Done....
29 Aug-Passed
Passport Req..
07 jan 2016
LANDED..........
30 jan 2016
My frnd is on open work permit.. His wife had applied on the base that he has a job in NOC A
 

Aquakitty

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Ottawa
App. Filed.......
04-03-2015
AOR Received.
14-04-2015 - SA Received: 20-04-2015
Med's Done....
28-01-2015 Upfront
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
N/A
VISA ISSUED...
25-06-2015
LANDED..........
11-07-2015
TANMEX said:
What kind of work permit is this ? did the employer go through the Human recourses and got a Labor Market Opinion ? a labor market opinion can only be obtained by Genuine Business with at least 2 years of payroll record and registered with Canada Revenue Agency ??
Spouses of those with certain NOC open work permits can apply for work permits.


@paras1991, I did a little reading. Since this determination was made outside of Canada, I think she should have had 60 days to file the leave, not 30. 30 is for the judicial review which comes after the leave.

So I assume the leave was denied, and there is no right of appeal from that. You can reapply for the work permit though. In my mind, if all this is true, resubmitting the work permit with a long essay of explanation and lots of proof might be the only chance, along with a request to reopen the old case. My concern is, if they think his job is fake, they will come after him too.
 

paras1991

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Jun 26, 2015
266
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Mississauga, ON
Category........
NOC Code......
1311
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
20-08-2015
Doc's Request.
RCMP -23 Sep, submitted-23 Sep 2015
AOR Received.
20-8-2015
Med's Done....
29 Aug-Passed
Passport Req..
07 jan 2016
LANDED..........
30 jan 2016
This is completely wrong. Just because an officer misunderstood, my friend is in trouble.

Cant the decision of ban be reappealed again?


Regarding TRP, how long that can be issued for? Is visiting a good reason, they just want to be together
 

Aquakitty

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Mar 21, 2011
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Visa Office......
Ottawa
App. Filed.......
04-03-2015
AOR Received.
14-04-2015 - SA Received: 20-04-2015
Med's Done....
28-01-2015 Upfront
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
N/A
VISA ISSUED...
25-06-2015
LANDED..........
11-07-2015
paras1991 said:
This is completely wrong. Just because an officer misunderstood, my friend is in trouble.

Cant the decision of ban be reappealed again?


Regarding TRP, how long that can be issued for? Is visiting a good reason, they just want to be together
From what I read, it sayed leaves can't be appealed, but I am no lawyer, you'd think the lawyer would have told them this stuff...
 

paras1991

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Jun 26, 2015
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Mississauga, ON
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NOC Code......
1311
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
20-08-2015
Doc's Request.
RCMP -23 Sep, submitted-23 Sep 2015
AOR Received.
20-8-2015
Med's Done....
29 Aug-Passed
Passport Req..
07 jan 2016
LANDED..........
30 jan 2016
lawyer said the same thing....

its not fair i think,,,...

Can a MP help ?
 

Aquakitty

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Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Ottawa
App. Filed.......
04-03-2015
AOR Received.
14-04-2015 - SA Received: 20-04-2015
Med's Done....
28-01-2015 Upfront
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
N/A
VISA ISSUED...
25-06-2015
LANDED..........
11-07-2015
I'm pretty sure the CIC officers have the power to reverse any decision. Maybe if they offer enough proof and keep applying, another officer will fix the situation. I don't know much about TRP's, but according to the CIC website, a TRP is just a TRV with a letter explaining why the applicant deserves a TRV despite their inadmissibility. So, they can try that.

Visa-required

You should submit an application for a temporary resident visa along with supporting documents to explain why you are inadmissible and why it may be justified for you to enter Canada.
 

Alurra71

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paras1991 said:
Hi all

My friend is on work permit working in NOC A. His wife had applied for work permit on the basis of my friend and got rejected. There was a confusion between the mailing and physical location of the business where my friend is working. In the employment letter of my friend, he has used the mailing address of business which is a residential address.

The officer refused the application and placed a ban of 5 years on my friends wife stating that the job of her husband is fake.

My friend was not aware of the fact that there is a one month deadline to appeal the decision. He did that after 1.5 months through "green and Spigel" lawyers.

Now after 4 months the judge has refused to give a hearing and the lawyers are saying that there is nothing can be done and even he cant apply for PR.

Need your views guys. His case is genuine and true. Is there anything he can do.? Can the decision of Federal court to not to even give the hearing be appealed?

Can he apply for PR with his wife being banned from Canada? If not, what if he give her divorce and apply for PR as single? And after 5 years remarry her and bring her here. Will this work?

Any views will be appreciated.

Thanks
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This is completely wrong. Just because an officer misunderstood, my friend is in trouble.

Cant the decision of ban be reappealed again?


Regarding TRP, how long that can be issued for? Is visiting a good reason, they just want to be together
So is it about his PR or them being together? She's been banned from Canada for 5 years due to misrepresentation. A TRV/TRP will NOT overcome a ban, those are used to overcome other reasons for inadmissibility, such as DUI or criminal record of a sort.

As I stated on your post in the General Immigration section, your friend needs to start covering his own bases now. He got his permit via job opportunity by the sounds of it, and if that job is found to be fraudulent, he is also now at risk.
 

paras1991

Hero Member
Jun 26, 2015
266
10
Mississauga, ON
Category........
NOC Code......
1311
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
20-08-2015
Doc's Request.
RCMP -23 Sep, submitted-23 Sep 2015
AOR Received.
20-8-2015
Med's Done....
29 Aug-Passed
Passport Req..
07 jan 2016
LANDED..........
30 jan 2016
He is on open work permit,,... and the job is not fraudlent..even his employer had sent an affidavit to cic
 

kminta

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Feb 16, 2015
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Visa Office......
New Delhi
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013(manitoba),30-1-15(received by cic)
Doc's Request.
30-06-2015 from NDVO
Nomination.....
22-12-2014
AOR Received.
24-04-2015 (XEP),28-5-15(EP & UCI)
IELTS Request
Alredy submitted
File Transfer...
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28-01-2016
Med's Done....
02-02-2016 & Medical Received in ecas-12-02-16
Interview........
Never
Passport Req..
7-3-2016 DM on 8-3-16
VISA ISSUED...
5-3-16
LANDED..........
15-4-16
Asking a question regarding my friend
She got a 5 years banned for misrepresentation under section 40(1)(a),40(2)(a) and 40(3). She applied for MPNP family class PR visa with her family.
Is there any way if her husband will apply in express entry and get a visa for Canada? or if she (first applicant) got banned her spouse (second applicant) is also banned?
 

canuck78

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Asking a question regarding my friend
She got a 5 years banned for misrepresentation under section 40(1)(a),40(2)(a) and 40(3). She applied for MPNP family class PR visa with her family.
Is there any way if her husband will apply in express entry and get a visa for Canada? or if she (first applicant) got banned her spouse (second applicant) is also banned?
They will have to wait until she has completed the ban. As a family it is all or nothing situation.
 
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kminta

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Feb 16, 2015
230
3
India
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013(manitoba),30-1-15(received by cic)
Doc's Request.
30-06-2015 from NDVO
Nomination.....
22-12-2014
AOR Received.
24-04-2015 (XEP),28-5-15(EP & UCI)
IELTS Request
Alredy submitted
File Transfer...
in process from 28-05-2015
Med's Request
28-01-2016
Med's Done....
02-02-2016 & Medical Received in ecas-12-02-16
Interview........
Never
Passport Req..
7-3-2016 DM on 8-3-16
VISA ISSUED...
5-3-16
LANDED..........
15-4-16