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sheisoptimistic said:
maybe I should have been more specific about what I said.. if you read my question over within the comment I said he's been here for 5+ years that's not to say he's been working under the table the entire time.
I have been supporting him most of the time he's been here .. but he has taken a few jobs here an there that lasted a few months. I just wanted to know what I was to put on the paperwork for this, which I have disclosed those months of work. I myself am a Canadian woman so most of what you've said is true in terms of taxes for those who work for long periods of time even years and evade paying taxes, but this is not my husbands case.
I did not come to this forum for sympathy by any means but, specifically looking for an opinion from someone who has been in the same situation, just like everyone else, not so much a judgemental answer looking down on those who have done things another way other than themselves.
You have no idea of people's situations an why they choose to leave the country from which they were born, maybe they are escaping death.. you don't know. so sometimes being a little cautious of your words is necessary.
I am dual....You stated that you husband has been here for 5 plus years without status..he is breaking the law...working for 1 min "under the table" is against the law...It does not matter why he left the country he was born in...he is breaking the law here and you are enabling it...like I said I get really angry with all that I have gone through and all that I know others have gone through and your asking if you should be honest?...You and him should have been honest 5 years ago...I am not judging I am stating the facts....And for the person that said we are here to support each other you are 100% correct...we are here to help people go through the process LEGALLY...we are here to share our experience....My husband has a PR and has been red flagged to the next 8 to 10 years because a work permit was denied in 2014 and this guy has been here illegally for 5 years working here and working the under the table....We had a vacation booked for our 10th anniversary and it had to be cancelled at a financial loss to us because he had to go for an interview with CIC in LA....we lived in Virginia, a 4 hour drive from our house is a CIC office but we had no choice we had to fly to LA....and you want to know if you need to be honest?...what about the time that we arrived to spend Christmas with my family here in Canada and my husband got turned away at the border and had to fly back home at a financial loss to us and spend Christmas alone...and you want to know if you should be honest?..What about having an approved TRP and having three work permits denied?...and you want to know if you should be honest?...This situation is why there are 417K people waiting to get into Canada legally...I am so sick of people thinking that because they felt there lives were in danger that they can live in Canada as they please...if it was so bad why did he not apply for refugee status the second he hit the border?..I am so done with people feeling they are entitled when so many of us are doing everything legal and getting nothing but grief from CIC and then someone wants to know if they should be honest...Remember CIC can show up at your door and they can review your emails, etc...
 

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sheisoptimistic said:
cool,
but you don't know the way I feel about his working illegally so you giving your opinion as though you feel
in my heart I think it's ok. I don't feel what he did working illegally was right, I never have. But you can't stop someone from doing something as a grown man can you? No.
and my child is dead btw, there was no need to be an ass about it.
You need to read this thread..REMOVAL ORDER ON OVER STAY
 

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Coszima said:
Well, I'm thinking about applying next week, while my status is still valid, but with the record of solemnization paper instead of marriage certificate. I know they CIC will say it's incomplete and ask for the proper document, but that would buy me some time and I will still be able to stay here with implied status ( since I would have been already sent the papers).
It's just... For a week delay doesn't seem right for everything to fall apart. In my home country they issue a certificate when the civil marriage takes place...
That might not work. CIC could return your application as incomplete, which would mean you would be out of status. Depending on how long it takes for them to return it, you could be past the 90 day restoration window.

Why don't you want to apply to extend your stay so that you can send in a complete application? Depending on your home country, it may be much faster to apply outland.
 

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Sunset0505 said:
I am dual....You stated that you husband has been here for 5 plus years without status..he is breaking the law...working for 1 min "under the table" is against the law...It does not matter why he left the country he was born in...he is breaking the law here and you are enabling it...like I said I get really angry with all that I have gone through and all that I know others have gone through and your asking if you should be honest?...You and him should have been honest 5 years ago...I am not judging I am stating the facts....And for the person that said we are here to support each other you are 100% correct...we are here to help people go through the process LEGALLY...we are here to share our experience....My husband has a PR and has been red flagged to the next 8 to 10 years because a work permit was denied in 2014 and this guy has been here illegally for 5 years working here and working the under the table....We had a vacation booked for our 10th anniversary and it had to be cancelled at a financial loss to us because he had to go for an interview with CIC in LA....we lived in Virginia, a 4 hour drive from our house is a CIC office but we had no choice we had to fly to LA....and you want to know if you need to be honest?...what about the time that we arrived to spend Christmas with my family here in Canada and my husband got turned away at the border and had to fly back home at a financial loss to us and spend Christmas alone...and you want to know if you should be honest?..What about having an approved TRP and having three work permits denied?...and you want to know if you should be honest?...This situation is why there are 417K people waiting to get into Canada legally...I am so sick of people thinking that because they felt there lives were in danger that they can live in Canada as they please...if it was so bad why did he not apply for refugee status the second he hit the border?..I am so done with people feeling they are entitled when so many of us are doing everything legal and getting nothing but grief from CIC and then someone wants to know if they should be honest...Remember CIC can show up at your door and they can review your emails, etc...
Your totally judging without knowing all the facts! I'm not saying what was done was right or wrong but I can't say I have an opinion about it until I know the facts. So stop venting!!! I'm sure there are people on this forum who went through what you did. And I'm sure it sucks! I'm sorry you had to go through that. Your husband being red flagged is not anyone's fault so stop making it sound like its the fault of anyone in Canada illegally. They wouldn't have flagged his application without a reason. Your situation has nothing to do with sheisoptomistics question!

I come back to her question of being honest in the application! Yes please do be honest. If you don't and Cic finds out your application will also be flagged. Whatever the situation talk it out with Cic. Leave no skeletons in the closet!

Done!! end of advice! That's all anyone needs to say to her. No judgement just facts!!!!!
 

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taniam00 said:
Your totally judging without knowing all the facts! I'm not saying what was done was right or wrong but I can't say I have an opinion about it until I know the facts. So stop venting!!! I'm sure there are people on this forum who went through what you did. And I'm sure it sucks! I'm sorry you had to go through that. Your husband being red flagged is not anyone's fault so stop making it sound like its the fault of anyone in Canada illegally. They wouldn't have flagged his application without a reason. Your situation has nothing to do with sheisoptomistics question!

I come back to her question of being honest in the application! Yes please do be honest. If you don't and Cic finds out your application will also be flagged. Whatever the situation talk it out with Cic. Leave no skeletons in the closet!

Done!! end of advice! That's all anyone needs to say to her. No judgement just facts!!!!!
Fact is that he is here illegally...FACT not judgement...Laws are laws period...Why should your husband stay and the other person now has an order to be removed and their status ran out in 2014?...you tell me your facts that continuing to live in a Country where he has no right to be are ...I know of a family on here where the mother who has had two Canadian children and has lived here for 8 years has an order to be removed...she was here illegally and now has to leave...why should your husband stay?..I can go on and on about families that have been torn apart because of CIC but in most cases they were here illegally...7 years for us doing it right...that is why I am angry that the two of you have been scamming the system...not judging FACT
 

Shaunjc166

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Hi All,

I need a bit of help from someone that may have encountered something like what i'm going through.

I am an Australian citizen and my wife and kids are Canadian citizens (they are dual Aussie/Canadian citz) and we are moving to Canada after a 16 year absences. We are going to submit my application in Canada once we get our house and contact details confirmed. With the Family sponsorship forms do i need to include the kids as "dependant children" on the applications even though they Canadian citizens? Or do i just leave them off given they are already citizens?

I find the forms and wording on them very confusing and its even harder to get an answer from someone at an immigration office. Would appreciate any help if someone have encountered this issue.
 

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Shaunjc166 said:
Hi All,

I need a bit of help from someone that may have encountered something like what i'm going through.

I am an Australian citizen and my wife and kids are Canadian citizens (they are dual Aussie/Canadian citz) and we are moving to Canada after a 16 year absences. We are going to submit my application in Canada once we get our house and contact details confirmed. With the Family sponsorship forms do i need to include the kids as "dependant children" on the applications even though they Canadian citizens? Or do i just leave them off given they are already citizens?

I find the forms and wording on them very confusing and its even harder to get an answer from someone at an immigration office. Would appreciate any help if someone have encountered this issue.
You should really really apply outland. Sydney is one of the fastest offices out there.

The kids are listed in the Additional Family Information Form, but that's it. They are not dependents as they are not being sponsored.
 

Shaunjc166

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@ MilesAway
Thanks for the reply re the kids. I thought they would be just mentioned on a form but given they are not being sponsored then they would not be on the application as such.

We have been tossing up about applying before we leave (At this stage we are going mid July) but we thought it will be easier once we land in BC. Just so we can have our Canadian mobile numbers and our residential address for all correspondence.
Also the forms for applying outside of Canada are not specific to our situation. They assume that the sponsor lives in Canada and the applicant lives outside.
Either applying inland or outland you're at the mercy of the officer looking over your case...i guess the only difference is the time it takes
 

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Shaunjc166 said:
We have been tossing up about applying before we leave (At this stage we are going mid July) but we thought it will be easier once we land in BC. Just so we can have our Canadian mobile numbers and our residential address for all correspondence.
Also the forms for applying outside of Canada are not specific to our situation. They assume that the sponsor lives in Canada and the applicant lives outside.
Either applying inland or outland you're at the mercy of the officer looking over your case...i guess the only difference is the time it takes
APPLY OUTLAND. It is by far the better choice for an Australian. The forms are generic and don't exactly apply to anyone's specific situation. My partner and I were living in the UK when we submitted our outland app.
 

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Shaunjc166

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canuck_in_uk said:
APPLY OUTLAND. It is by far the better choice for an Australian. The forms are generic and don't exactly apply to anyone's specific situation. My partner and I were living in the UK when we submitted our outland app.
Even if i am leaving in 5 weeks time?I think it would it look a dodgy if i submit the application then 3 weeks later i am residing in BC?
 

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Shaunjc166 said:
Even if i am leaving in 5 weeks time?I think it would it look a dodgy if i submit the application then 3 weeks later i am residing in BC?
It doesn't matter where the applicant lives if they apply outland. Just update CIC with your new mailing address when needed.
 

kyledoyle14

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Hello, Need some help. I got this email below today. I am currently in Canada and not in Europe. Did the process outland through Vienna. German citizenship (was Canadian until a few years ago) and applying through my wife. How much longer after this? What exactly is the process?

Below is the email I got regarding my PR application. I just have a question as I am bit confused on what I need to do now.

1) I am currently in Canada until end of August with my family. Could I have my visa sent to my address in Canada? Then I could re-enter at a land entry?

Below is the email.



Your application for permanent residence in Canada has reached the final stage of processing. Before it can be finalized, you must follow the instructions below within 30 days of the date of this letter.
Please include a copy of the first page of this letter with your submission.
Please read carefully all information and instructions set out below and complete the steps accordingly. Your application will be finalized at the visa office in Vienna. If you have any questions after reading the information and instructions, please contact us at vienn-visa@international.gc.ca.


1. Change in your Family Composition
You must notify CPC-Ottawa in writing if there has been or will be changes in your life circumstances before using your visas, such as:
A. Family status (e.g. marriage or common-law union, divorce, annulment, legal separation, birth, adoption, death of the sponsor, principal applicant or any accompanying family member, including grandchildren born to dependent children); or
B. You or any of your family members being charged or convicted of a criminal offence; or
C. Changes to mailing address/e-mail address/contact information.

Failure to inform CIC of any of these changes may delay processing, may result in the cancellation of your immigrant visas and may render you and your family members inadmissible to Canada. Failure to inform CIC of additional dependent family members may permanently exclude them from being eligible under a sponsorship in the Family Class later on.


2. Validity of your Immigrant Visa and your Confirmation of Permanent Residence Document
The issuance of your Confirmation of Permanent Residence document is time sensitive so it is important for you to act quickly upon receipt of this letter. Please note that the validity of your Confirmation of Permanent Residence is limited by the validity of your medical results or the validity of your passport (or of one of your accompanying dependent), whichever is shortest.

Once you receive your Confirmation of Permanent Residence document, please check the information on it to make sure it is correct. If there are any errors, such as incorrect spelling of name or incorrect date of birth, please inform the Canadian Embassy in Vienna immediately and we will confirm if reprinting is necessary. Please note that CIC used precise guidelines to record names in its database.

You must travel to Canada and present your immigration documents at a Canadian Port of Entry before they expire. Once issued, the validity of the Confirmation of Permanent Residence documents cannot be extended. If you fail to enter Canada before this date and still wish to immigrate to Canada, you must reapply by submitting a new application and paying new processing fees. All such applications will be assessed according to the immigration laws in force at the time of receipt of the application. There is no guarantee a future application will be successful.



3. Final Steps Before Printing your Immigration Documents
Our records indicate that you are a citizen from a country described in paragraph 190(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations or have a travel document described in paragraph 190(2)(c) to (f) of the Regulations, thus allowing you to travel to Canada without an immigrant counterfoil. As such, only a Confirmation of Permanent Residence document will be sent to you. Nevertheless, you are still required to bring the same valid passport that you indicated in your application when you travel to Canada.

All passports used to immigrate to Canada should be valid for a minimum of six months. Please note that Diplomatic, Official or Military passports cannot be used to immigrate to Canada.



A. Pay your Right of Permanent Residence Fee (RPRF), if applicable.
Before a Confirmation of Permanent Residence can be printed, principal applicants (with some exceptions) and their spouse or common-law partner accompanying them to Canada must pay the Right of Permanent Residence Fee (RPRF). Non-accompanying spouse or common-law partner, dependent children of a principal applicant or a sponsor, child to be adopted, orphaned brother, sister, niece, nephew or grandchild and protected persons (such as refugees) are not required to pay this fee.
If you have not already paid this fee, you can find instructions on how to pay this fee at: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/fees/index.asp?cat=perm. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/fees/index.asp?cat=perm

B. Two Passport-sized photographs
On January 1st, 2016, the Department of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship (IRCC) has updated its requirements for official photos. If your photos do not match the requirements listed at the following address, you must provide us with new photos matching these specifications for you and any accompanying dependents: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/pdf/5445EB-e.pdf.


C. Updated Copy of your Passport/Travel Document
If you or an accompanying family member has changed passport since you submitted your application, you must provide us with an updated copy.



D. Confirm your mailing address
This step is particularly important if you have moved since you submitted your application or if you have a representative who has been receiving all of your correspondence, but now wish to have your immigration documents sent directly to you.

E. Report Back to the Canadian Embassy in Vienna, Austria
If you need to send us physical documents (such as passport-sized photos), please respond to this letter by mail by using one of the following options along with all of the documentation required (photos, copy of RPRF receipt, copy of passport, etc.):

a) By Registered mail
Send your passport directly to the Canadian Embassy in Vienna at the following address:
Immigration Section
Embassy of Canada
Laurenzerberg 2/III
1010 Vienna Austria

If you do not provide a pre-paid return envelope from a private courier company, our office will return your documents by regular mail. Please note that the Embassy of Canada is not responsible for any items lost in the mail.

b) By Private Courier
If you choose this option, we strongly recommend that you supply a pre-paid commercial courier coupon for us to return your documents. Ensure that all the required information is completed on the pre-paid commercial courier coupon to allow us to return your document to you:
Ø Include your full mailing address in the "Deliver To" field
Ø Place the address of the Canadian Embassy in Vienna in the “Return Address” field:
Immigration Section
Embassy of Canada
Laurenzerberg 2/III
1010 Vienna

Ø Your account details

Once you have arranged the pre-paid pick-up with the commercial courier service, the commercial courier company must contact our section by e-mail (vienn-visa@international.gc.ca) in order to organize the pick-up of your envelope.

If you do not provide a pre-paid return envelope, our office will return your documents by regular mail. Please note that the Embassy of Canada is not responsible for any items lost in the mail.




4. The Return of your Passport and Immigration Documents
Your immigration documentation will be mailed out to you within approximately seven days from the date that the Canadian Embassy in Vienna receives the missing items via the transmission method you selected. Your immigration documentation will be returned to the mailing address we have in our records, unless instructed otherwise.
 

getglad

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Hi, everyone

I received SA today for my Australian partner and we are currently living together in Australia. His application is being processed in Ottawa rather than Sydney though. Is that weird? I have added our timeline to the 2016 outland spreadsheet.. Looks like Ottawa is pretty quick right now ;D