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abcd01in

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Mar 24, 2015
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Hi all,

In the 2014 spreadsheet, does the application received column indicate the date when the application was received in Mississauga CIC or NDVO (once its approved by CIC). Also, what do the number in the brackets () mean, are they sequential steps of processes?
 

Mapleson

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Apr 2, 2015
534
31
Toronto, Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
Havana
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
23-03-2015
Doc's Request.
21-08-2015
AOR Received.
24-04-2015
File Transfer...
28-05-2015
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
13-02-2015
Interview........
N/A
Passport Req..
24-09-2015
VISA ISSUED...
30-09-2015
LANDED..........
18-10-2015
abcd01in said:
Hi all,

In the 2014 spreadsheet, does the application received column indicate the date when the application was received in Mississauga CIC or NDVO (once its approved by CIC). Also, what do the number in the brackets () mean, are they sequential steps of processes?
Received is at CPC-M (Mississauga). AOR2 is your local VO (New Delhi).
 

huzzyd

Newbie
Apr 9, 2015
6
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Singapore Immigration times

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone has done a outland immigration for a Singaporean spouse? How long was your application process? Is the 30 months really how long it took you, or was significantly less?

I am debating if I should do inland vs outland. Do not like the restrictions and was the inland process has been going recently.
 

binnie

Full Member
Oct 17, 2014
45
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Leon said:
So you are in the situation that you want to sponsor your foreign spouse for permanent residency of Canada and don't know where to start. Here are some tips:

Married, common law or conjugal partners

First you need to pick an application class. There are three of them: married, common-law and conjugal. For all of them, you need to prove the genuineity of your relationship. For common-law, you need to prove that you have lived together for 12 months or longer. For conjugal, you need to prove that you have combined your affairs as much as possible but there are real immigration barriers or other barriers preventing you from living together or getting married. Conjugal is the hardest to prove. For example, if your partner could get a visit visa to come to Canada for 6 months and then apply for an extension to get the full year, even though they will not be allowed to work, that is not considered an immigration barrier. An immigration barrier is if your partner tries to get a visit visa to come to Canada and is repeatedly refused. Some people have had luck with the conjugal class but try to avoid it if possible.

Outland or inland?

Now you need to decide if to apply outland or inland. If your spouse is not in Canada and can not get a visa to go to Canada, you must apply outland. That means that you will send your application to Mississauga and they will approve you as a sponsor. The time that takes is usually 1-2 months to but current processing times can be seen here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/canada/process-in.asp#sponsorship After that, the application is forwarded to your local visa office. If your spouse is residing in a country other than the country of their nationality, you can pick which of the two visa offices you want. Otherwise it will be processed in their country of nationality. You can see the processing times here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/international/05-fc-spouses.asp

If your spouse is staying in Canada as a visitor or on some other visa, you can pick whether you want to apply outland or inland. Outland is generally faster and has appeal rights but a downside to outland is that if an interview is required, your spouse will have to travel to the visa office in the country where it's being processed. Inland has the downside that it's generally not advised that your spouse travels while you are waiting for your processing because it is a requirement of inland that they reside in Canada and if they are denied entry at the border for some reason, your application is gone. If an interview is required for inland, you may also have to wait a long time for it. The inland application would be sent to Vegreville and if all goes well, you would get a first stage approval, usually in 6 to 8 months. The current processing times can be seen here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/canada/process-in.asp#perm_res Then the file is forwarded to your local CIC office where you live and they will contact you for a landing appointment. Getting the PR with inland usually takes 12-18 months. If an interview is required for inland, Vegreville will not give first stage approval but instead will forward the application to the local CIC office without it and you will have to wait for them to have time for your interview. In some cases that can take a year or two. If you do get the first stage approval, your spouse will usually be eligible for health care and an open work permit. It is actually a good idea when applying inland to send an application form for a visit visa extension as well as the open work permit to be given at first stage approval all in one package so it's tied together.

Which method to pick depends on your situation. If your spouses country of nationality has a long processing time or your spouse does not want to have to travel there for a possible interview, then inland is the way to go. For faster processing and freedom of travel during the processing time, outland would be better. You can find the application forms for inland at http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/spouse.asp and the application forms for outland at http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/fc.asp

Avoiding potential problems with your application

The most common reason for people to be called for an interview is that the visa officer has doubts about the relationship being genuine. It is up to you to send immigration some quality data, emails, chat logs, phone records, photos, letters and other material to prove to them that your relationship is the real thing. Other reasons you might have problems with is eligibility of the sponsor. The sponsor can not be on social assistance, can not be bankrupt and can not have a record of violent crimes or crimes against family members. If that is the case, better talk to a lawyer and get that cleared up before attempting to apply.

Dependent children

If your spouse has dependent children, they must be included in the PR application, even if they are not coming to Canada. They will need to have medicals as well to keep the option open to sponsor them later. The only way that immigration will accept the application without those medicals is if the children are no longer minors and refuse to have it or if the children are in the full custody of their other parent who refuses to make them available for medicals. In that case, your spouse needs to sign a statement stating that they know that they will never be able to sponsor these children to Canada in the future.

Dependent children are classified as single and either under 22 years of age or if they are older, they must have been full time students since before age 22 or dependent on their parent due to a disability or medical problem.

Refusals due to income and medicals

You will be asked to provide information about your income but you will not be denied to sponsor your spouse and dependent children because you do not make enough money. It is possible though that if you make absolutely no money at all that immigration may ask you how you plan to support yourselves.

Spouses and dependent children are also exempt from the clause about excessive demand on health care so you do not have to worry about them being refused for that reason.

Sponsoring your spouse while living in another country

If you are a Canadian citizen, you can sponsor your spouse without being in Canada but you do then have to prove that you are planning on moving to Canada when your spouse gets approved for permanent residency. Such proof can include having arranged jobs, being accepted to college, having arranged housing or letters from friends & relatives stating that they know of your plans and that you can stay with them while you look for housing etc.

If you are a PR, you must reside in Canada in order to sponsor your spouse. You can chance short vacations (remember that a Canadian vacation is generally no longer than 2 weeks) but if immigration finds out that you are not in Canada, you risk getting your application refused.
hello
I sent my inland spousal sponsorship file to CIC on 17 March, 2015. How do I know they have received my file or not. There is no confirmation from them. I can't check the status online. I'm confused if they have my file or not?????
 

Mapleson

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Apr 2, 2015
534
31
Toronto, Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
Havana
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
23-03-2015
Doc's Request.
21-08-2015
AOR Received.
24-04-2015
File Transfer...
28-05-2015
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
13-02-2015
Interview........
N/A
Passport Req..
24-09-2015
VISA ISSUED...
30-09-2015
LANDED..........
18-10-2015
binnie said:
hello
I sent my inland spousal sponsorship file to CIC on 17 March, 2015. How do I know they have received my file or not. There is no confirmation from them. I can't check the status online. I'm confused if they have my file or not?????
You won't get a confirmation until it is opened, which is a minimum of 2 months.

Most people send it by courier or registered mail, so they can be sure that it arrived. If you didn't, you just have to wait and hope.
 

SRAMA9

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Mar 18, 2015
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haldashti said:
Hello all,
Anyone here has experienced delays in SA stage? My application is for outland(I live in Canada, wife oversees)Mine is way past, current time for SA is 64days, mine is almost 90 days now.
I received AOR on March 14th, and my application was received by CPC on Jan 12th. I've been calling CIC on regular basis, the decision is not their's to make, all they could do was sending an e-mail to CPC inquiring about my case, that was torwards the end of March. Still nothing, when I talked with CIC today the agent tells me, they can't take any further actions, until 3 months have passed from the time they sent the e-mail! Frustrating to say the least. Any thoughts, experiences with such scenarios would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
H,

I am december 4th applicant got my AOR on Feb 25th, but just got my SA on April 8th which is yesterday.
I kept calling CIC every other week and was asking about my status but unfortunately they couldn't help much. They advised me that they waiting for the external confirmation on my file or something like that. but finally I received. (i didnt get any email, they confirmed that when i called them this morning. they sent the approval via regular mail.
So don't worry. you will get it soon. Just check with them if you are missing any documents.
 

Djn1993

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Feb 10, 2015
23
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Japan
Visa Office......
Manila
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14-10-2014
Doc's Request.
04-03-2015
AOR Received.
31-12-2014
Med's Done....
08-2014
Hello,
any advice for a spouse entering Canada from a visa exempt country? We applied outland but we haven't received much news so we are going to order the ATIP notes. My spouse from Japan wants to enter as a visitor and the extend the visa while he's here but I'm worried about him getting in. Besides having a return ticket, is there anything specific he should and shouldn't say or do when he arrives at the airport? I'm worried about them giving him a hard time because our application is still being processed. Is it a bad idea for him to say he wants to wait out the sponsorship in Canada?
 

canuck_in_uk

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06/12
Djn1993 said:
Hello,
any advice for a spouse entering Canada from a visa exempt country? We applied outland but we haven't received much news so we are going to order the ATIP notes. My spouse from Japan wants to enter as a visitor and the extend the visa while he's here but I'm worried about him getting in. Besides having a return ticket, is there anything specific he should and shouldn't say or do when he arrives at the airport? I'm worried about them giving him a hard time because our application is still being processed. Is it a bad idea for him to say he wants to wait out the sponsorship in Canada?
Hi

Don't stress. CBSA is very lenient with people who have a sponsorship app in process and it's very common for visa-exempt spouses to come to Canada as a visitor to wait out the process. He should carry proof of the PR app, such as the fee receipt or sponsor approval. It's good idea to bring proof of funds in he's asked how he can support his stay. He should say that he is coming to visit his spouse while waiting for his PR app to be processed. He is not moving to or coming to live in Canada, only visiting. A fully refundable separate return ticket is always a good idea, just in case. When we came to Canada halfway through the process, the officer never even asked about my partner leaving. I cancelled the ticket the next day.
 

binnie

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Oct 17, 2014
45
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Mapleson said:
You won't get a confirmation until it is opened, which is a minimum of 2 months.

Most people send it by courier or registered mail, so they can be sure that it arrived. If you didn't, you just have to wait and hope.
Also I did not know about OWP pilot project. So I didn't send OWP application along with spousal file. Can I send it now?
 

rhtareq

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Jun 8, 2013
53
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Bangladesh
Category........
Visa Office......
Singapore
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
21-09-2014
AOR Received.
06-11-2014
File Transfer...
06-11-2014
Med's Done....
10-09-2014
Passport Req..
22-04-2015
Normally how svo sends the ppr? By mail or e-mail? 15 days gone since e-case status changed to ' in process ' no news?
 

Djn1993

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Feb 10, 2015
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Japan
Visa Office......
Manila
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14-10-2014
Doc's Request.
04-03-2015
AOR Received.
31-12-2014
Med's Done....
08-2014
Thanks for the help Canuck :)
 

Garry2008

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Jun 13, 2013
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rhtareq said:
Normally how svo sends the ppr? By mail or e-mail? 15 days gone since e-case status changed to ' in process ' no news?

(1) If you have Provided the Email then it will be send through Email otherwise regular Mail.
(2) In Process Means a Visa Officer has started to Work on your Application in this Status PPR will not be Received.PPR will be made Once your Case will show Status Decision Made.This is the next step after In Process.
 

haldashti

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Dec 10, 2014
270
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Category........
Visa Office......
ADVO
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
12-01-2015
AOR Received.
14-03-2015
File Transfer...
24-04-2015
Med's Done....
10-05-2015
Passport Req..
16-09-2015
SRAMA9 said:
H,

I am december 4th applicant got my AOR on Feb 25th, but just got my SA on April 8th which is yesterday.
I kept calling CIC every other week and was asking about my status but unfortunately they couldn't help much. They advised me that they waiting for the external confirmation on my file or something like that. but finally I received. (i didnt get any email, they confirmed that when i called them this morning. they sent the approval via regular mail.
So don't worry. you will get it soon. Just check with them if you are missing any documents.
SRAMA, Thanks for the info. As you said, CIC can't do much. They are not even able/willing to tell me what the holdup is all about. Once the wait passes the period on the website, all they(CIC) will do is send an email to CPC inquiring about the case. As I have been told by them, they can only inquire again, once 3 months have passed since their last action! Just to confirm, you received your SA via regular mail? Eventhough you have provided them your email? And lastly, did you get the SA from CIC or CPC? Thanks.
 

taffy7

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May 23, 2013
2,482
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Category........
Visa Office......
London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
10th April 2014/June 10th 2014 application complete
Doc's Request.
09 June 2014 same doc's requested again 6th Oct 2014. docs not needed again mistake by cic
AOR Received.
sponsorship approval 05 Aug 2014
File Transfer...
05 Aug 2014
Med's Request
28 July 2015
Med's Done....
30th Dec 2013
Passport Req..
in process 18th July 2015/ DM 5/12/2015
LANDED..........
28/12/2015
haldashti said:
SRAMA, Thanks for the info. As you said, CIC can't do much. They are not even able/willing to tell me what the holdup is all about. Once the wait passes the period on the website, all they(CIC) will do is send an email to CPC inquiring about the case. As I have been told by them, they can only inquire again, once 3 months have passed since their last action! Just to confirm, you received your SA via regular mail? Eventhough you have provided them your email? And lastly, did you get the SA from CIC or CPC? Thanks.


They are working on applicants that was received on Feb 4th 2015 . Call the call center again ask for a temporary file number . Ask to speak to a supervisor. Check they have your right email and address and telephone number on file. Do not wait another 3 months for an inquiry. Be firm but not rude lol ..