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Spousal sponsorship interview problems

mra8616

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Sep 16, 2010
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Before we got married, my wife worked in the Middle East for 2 years. I told her to please get a police clearance before coming home for our marriage. Unfortunately, she did not remember to get the police clearance and we were unable to get the police clearance via post from the police headquaters in that country. So we got her a new passport in her new name, and applied for the spousal sponsorship without declaring she worked and lived in the Middle East for 2 yrs. During her interview, the visa officer shocked her.....she said "we have information that you worked as a sales girl in the Middle East". My wife was shocked, because they knew the type of job she did and even the particular country in the Middle East she worked in. She vehemently denied the claim. The next question was "is this your first passport"? My wife said yes, and the interviewer said she is not convinced at her answer. Next was "what phone number did you use to communicate with your husband prior to marriage"? My wife gave them her cell number, but the interviewer refused the number saying its an incorrect number. So to cut the story short, the embassy told her they would check with the government records (Passport office and immigration), and if they find out she has indeed worked outside the country, her application will be denied, but if she hasn't left the country before, her application will be accepted. Its been a month now since she interviewed and we have not gotten any response back from the embassy. What can we do??? Can a self confession to the embassy help at this moment? Has anyone been in a similar situation before? If so, what did you do?
 

PMM

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Jun 30, 2005
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Hi

mra8616 said:
Before we got married, my wife worked in the Middle East for 2 years. I told her to please get a police clearance before coming home for our marriage. Unfortunately, she did not remember to get the police clearance and we were unable to get the police clearance via post from the police headquaters in that country. So we got her a new passport in her new name, and applied for the spousal sponsorship without declaring she worked and lived in the Middle East for 2 yrs. During her interview, the visa officer shocked her.....she said "we have information that you worked as a sales girl in the Middle East". My wife was shocked, because they knew the type of job she did and even the particular country in the Middle East she worked in. She vehemently denied the claim. The next question was "is this your first passport"? My wife said yes, and the interviewer said she is not convinced at her answer. Next was "what phone number did you use to communicate with your husband prior to marriage"? My wife gave them her cell number, but the interviewer refused the number saying its an incorrect number. So to cut the story short, the embassy told her they would check with the government records (Passport office and immigration), and if they find out she has indeed worked outside the country, her application will be denied, but if she hasn't left the country before, her application will be accepted. Its been a month now since she interviewed and we have not gotten any response back from the embassy. What can we do??? Can a self confession to the embassy help at this moment? Has anyone been in a similar situation before? If so, what did you do?
So your spouse lied to the Visa officer at least 4 times, misrepresented herself, submitted false information. It is too late, to say "I lied to you before but now I will tell the truth" There is 99.9% chance that she is going to be refused for misrepresentation and banned for 2 years.
 

bobshynoswife

Hero Member
Nov 16, 2009
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St Albert, AB
Category........
Visa Office......
Accra
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
18-05-2010
File Transfer...
22-06-2010
Interview........
24-08-2010
VISA ISSUED...
24-08-2010
LANDED..........
09-09-2010
cndcit said:
If honest mistakes are made,how is someone supposed to explain and actually be believed?
That was not an honest mistake. It was an intentional and calculated way to misrepresent themselves because they did not want to put in the effort to follow the process by getting a police clearance. even if the PCC was unobtainable (which I don't believe for a second) they could have truthfully represented her history on the application and then explained why they did not have the PCC. Going as far as applying for a new passport to deliberately cover her past goes way beyond an 'honest mistake'.

Original poster...you screwed up big time. Perhaps if she had come clean at the interview you may have had a shot, but at this point, I think PMM is being generous by saying you have a 99.9% chance of being denied. I would say it is 100%

I know she didn't have ill intent, and because of that I am sorry that you're in this situation.
 

dair2dv8103100

Hero Member
Aug 6, 2010
992
19
Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
Rabat
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
19.05.11
AOR Received.
16.08.11
File Transfer...
26.07.11
Med's Done....
28.02.11/19.03.12
Interview........
06.03.12
Passport Req..
28.05.12
VISA ISSUED...
20.06.12
LANDED..........
Aug 1, 2012 :)
It's this kind of misrepresentation that makes this process so much more difficult for those of us doing this honestly.

What else can be said other than she should not have lied.
 

lynw

Hero Member
Jul 1, 2010
280
18
Vancouver
Category........
Visa Office......
Sydney, Australia
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
23-06-2010
AOR Received.
29-07-2010
File Transfer...
29-07-2010
Med's Done....
17-05-2010
Passport Req..
25-08-2010
VISA ISSUED...
20-09-2010
LANDED..........
23-09-2010
mra8616 said:
Before we got married, my wife worked in the Middle East for 2 years. I told her to please get a police clearance before coming home for our marriage. Unfortunately, she did not remember to get the police clearance and we were unable to get the police clearance via post from the police headquaters in that country. So we got her a new passport in her new name, and applied for the spousal sponsorship without declaring she worked and lived in the Middle East for 2 yrs. During her interview, the visa officer shocked her.....she said "we have information that you worked as a sales girl in the Middle East". My wife was shocked, because they knew the type of job she did and even the particular country in the Middle East she worked in. She vehemently denied the claim. The next question was "is this your first passport"? My wife said yes, and the interviewer said she is not convinced at her answer. Next was "what phone number did you use to communicate with your husband prior to marriage"? My wife gave them her cell number, but the interviewer refused the number saying its an incorrect number. So to cut the story short, the embassy told her they would check with the government records (Passport office and immigration), and if they find out she has indeed worked outside the country, her application will be denied, but if she hasn't left the country before, her application will be accepted. Its been a month now since she interviewed and we have not gotten any response back from the embassy. What can we do??? Can a self confession to the embassy help at this moment? Has anyone been in a similar situation before? If so, what did you do?
Your wife lied more than once, deliberately. As has been pointed out, her lying makes it more difficult for the rest of us. I feel sorry for you, personally, but they absolutely should reject her.

Edited to add: actually I'm steaming about this. They should not only reject her and ban her from Canada, but charge her with fraud.

See that over there? That's my 100% legit beloved passport, stuck in customs for checks by three government departments because of all the lying cheaters out there dealing in fakes and forgeries.
 

kelKel

Champion Member
Apr 8, 2010
1,296
63
Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-10-2010
AOR Received.
17-11-2010
File Transfer...
04-11-2010
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
28-02-2011
LANDED..........
03-03-2011
So confusing as to why she would go through all of this just because she couldn't get a police certificate. You can always get a police certificate and in the case where you're unable to obtain one you would just have to explain the situation in a letter. This is a very costly mistake :(
 

angelbrat

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Oct 31, 2009
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I agree with everyone here. This is just the most disgusting story I have read on this forum.

No wonder poor candianwomen has a hard time, when there are people like this applying for immigration.

Yes, a 5 year ban from entering Canada sounds quite fair to me.
 

angelbrat

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Oct 31, 2009
857
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And thinking about it...does your wife have something to hide???

For someone to go to so much trouble hiding their association about being in the Middle East for 2 years throws up huge red flags to me.
 

bonbon9

Hero Member
Jul 7, 2010
623
34
ON, Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
MX
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
09/15/2010
AOR Received.
12/02/2010
File Transfer...
10/14/2010
Interview........
WAIVED
Passport Req..
02/23/2011
LANDED..........
05/17/2011
angelbrat said:
And thinking about it...does your wife have something to hide???

For someone to go to so much trouble hiding their association about being in the Middle East for 2 years throws up huge red flags to me.
This is exactly what I thought when I read his first post!
They acted as if she had something big to hide..
 

Aroundtown22

Star Member
Mar 17, 2009
110
1
Category........
Visa Office......
Berlin
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
13-09-2010
AOR Received.
N/A
File Transfer...
14-10-2010
Med's Request
25-10-2010
Med's Done....
15-08-2010
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
15-11-2010
VISA ISSUED...
26-11-2010
Out of curiosity, does anyone know how immigration would know about her working in the middle east?
 

Yaya Marei

Hero Member
Aug 25, 2010
302
14
Visa Office......
Damascus
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
1/8/2010
Doc's Request.
Nov 2010
Med's Request
1l7 2011
Med's Done....
3/7 /2011
Interview........
28/6/2011
Passport Req..
17/8/2011
VISA ISSUED...
21/8/2011
LANDED..........
31/8 /2011 Insallah
wowoow, This is so so bad, why she lied , I do not know but she should told them in the interview

anyways this is not the case now , I Think Immigration not stuipd thid her old travel. so write them email, tell all the truth. nothing but true, and let a lawyer do it.

i do not know i am from middel east it is not hard to get police certificat at all, even through empassy unless you want to hid something , sorry but this what it look here .
 

shawngt2

Hero Member
Jul 18, 2010
219
10
123
Toronto, ON
Category........
Visa Office......
Moscow
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
9-9-2010
Doc's Request.
13-1-2011
AOR Received.
22-11-2010
File Transfer...
5-10-2010
Med's Done....
18-8-2010
Passport Req..
5-5-2011
VISA ISSUED...
17-5-2011
LANDED..........
23-5-2011
WOW, one word "denied". Cutting corners and then lying...done... FYI, This forum isn't about helping people scwerm through the process by lying.

This is definitely the worst I have heard here. My wife and I's application is without a lie, and that confidence is a great feeling.
 

Perfect

Star Member
Mar 22, 2010
147
7
Category........
Visa Office......
Pretoria
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
August 11, 2010
Doc's Request.
October 5, 2010
AOR Received.
October 5, 2010
File Transfer...
September 10, 2010
Med's Done....
February 20, 2010
Im going to say things like that happen everyday, Some people omit information from their applications and get way with it whilst others dont. Its such a shame that you failed to follow instructions and obviously as I can imagine your wife was scared to admit that when the officer asked her. CIC does extensive background checks and the last thing you want to omit is a police clearance especially for a place she stayed for two years. Which of course is now the IOs word against hers. They will find out and she will be denied because they are not going to be satisfied that she is not a risk to Canada. To put the icing on the cake shes going to be inadmissible based on misrepresentation. If she has any questionable ties that cic would deem dangerous then of course she is going to be permanently barred for withholding material facts. As you make your bed, so shall you lie on it. Im assuming you did not think CIC would find out so you thought it was no biggie...newsflash...The visa is going to be denied and you will learn the hard way.
 

BamBamBing

Star Member
Jun 3, 2010
127
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App. Filed.......
End of March
Doc's Request.
End of April and End of May
AOR Received.
Mid-April
File Transfer...
Mid-May
Med's Done....
Mid-May
Sorry if I'm wrong...but a post like this one, from new member, 1st post...etc!

Maybe I'm wrong...but I can't believe this story is true.

In short it's "we lied, they know we lied and they will investigate...what can we do because we lied several times in interview to cover the original lie as well"

I mean, the story and the whole situation is eeee well.....bah whatever..... ???