Spousal Sponsorship from outside Canada

[brighteyes]

As a Canadian Citizen living outside Canada I am in the process of sponsoring my spouse.

I will be in Canada shortly and will take up base there, but it will take me time to find a job, though I have started the job search already.

They are now asking for "compelling evidence" to return to Canada. I don't have a house to rent/buy as we will be living with my parents until my spouse arrives there and cannot afford to return to univ. So what is considered "compelling evidence" for a sponsor other than a ticket to Canada?

 

[Leon]

Get a letter from your parents stating that they know of your plans to return to Canada and are supporting your plans by letting you live with them while you look for housing. If you have bought the ticket already, send a copy of the ticket. If you have been looking online for jobs you want to apply for, you can also send some printouts of the job ads. Of course it would be better if you had a job offer but if you don't, you have to be creative and send them what little you have and hope it's enough.

 

[brighteyes]

I have all of the ones mentioned other than the job offer :-(

Need suggestions on what else can be included as my proof of being in the country?

My spouse was also required to cancel his overseas work visa. Worried that if the proofs are not sufficient he will be without a job, our only source of income. Immigration is not accepting the docs only unless we get a canceled overseas work visa along with my proofs of being in Canada.

 

[Leon]

Get your parents to go talk to their MP. I can't believe they want him to cancel his work visa now for sponsorship which may take months and he's supposed to sit there and wait without an income.

 

[PMM]

Hi

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Get your parents to go talk to their MP. I can't believe they want him to cancel his work visa now for sponsorship which may take months and he's supposed to sit there and wait without an income.
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Pretty well all the offices in the Middle East insist that the applicant cancel their residency permits before they will insert the COPR. The reason? A very high percentage of foreign workers in the area who have been sponsored or apply as FSW get their PRs and then either return with their Canadian spouse which preserves their PR status and continue to work there. The FSW "land" settle their families in Canada, and then return. As they families are able to show little or no income in Canada, they are then able to access "low income" programs from the Gov't.

PMM

 

[brighteyes]

PPM,

I understand that part about ppl accessing the low income benefits.

It still makes no sense to ask someone to quit their job without approving all the proofs as the IO is not guaranteeing us a visa yet....cause it all depends if they find our proofs "satisfactory".

So if they said...okay all your paper work is fine, go ahead and cancel the visa, then we have no problem with that.

Right now they are putting our family at risk without an income and being asked to leave this country.

 

[Leon]

Maybe you should talk to the embassy and tell them that, that if they tell you that all your other papers are in order and he will get his PR, then you will cancel his work visa but you can not cancel it unless you are certain that he is getting his PR because then you will be left sitting without an income.

Also get your parents to talk to their MP. This seems very stupid to me. Granted they don't even have to allow you to sponsor from overseas, they could cancel that option any time they want if they think it's being abused. If you were a PR and not a citizen, you would have to move to Canada first before you could apply to sponsor your husband and maybe that is what you will have to do.

 

[brighteyes]

The Abu Dhabi office does not entertain questions by picking up the phone, unlike in Mississauga. Sent the Abu Dhabi office an e-mail explaining to them the job situation and they say do as we say in order to proceed or WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION.

I feel proud to be a Canadian [sarcastic].

 

[Boncuk]

Yeah Abu Dhabi these days seem to be very strict with Canadians being abroad while sponsoring. I myself was living abroad and just sent Cairo a letter explaining my situation and it was no problem.
As you have pretty much all the above suggestions I think they will deny if you don't comply. Which is ridiculus. Cancelling your family's only source of income is inhumane. I guess you have the option of going to Canada and complying with all they ask or risk being refused and appeal. I for one believe you would win that appeal. I still can't believe what they are asking from you both.

 

[Rasha]

Ok for starters..just a suggestion.

Draw up a lease between your and your parents. They have those leases in bookstores, and even online. Have it notarized, and make it official. That is a proof that you are renting from them. put a nominal amount [as if renting rooms or a suite], and that is the rent you are paying , saying $350/month etc...
as you are married, undoubtedly you will have different names, but even if not, this is proof and a true legal binding contract.

Open a bank account in Canada, with your hubby as a joint owner - I know that in the US you can open accounts online. Use your parents place as the address. I think Royal Bank or Bank Of Montreal also facilitate this. come to think of it, if you are in Abu Dhabi, there is an HSBC there who might be able to open an international account for you with your Canadian information..

I am confused on one point however, you are saying that they want you to cancel your hubby's work visa - but he has not been approved??

I have heard of what PMM is saying, but I was under the impression, when the passport request comes, there has to be proof that the work visa is or will be cancelled immediately. [but at that point they are approved...]

 

[brighteyes]

I will do the lease and the joint account part...thanks for the advise Rasha.

Yeah you heard right...cancel the applicant's work visa without having the proof approved. Very logical isn't it [sarcastic].

 

[Leon]

It's not exactly logical and I can't see why they can't do an exchange, like give you a letter promising you the PR visa as soon as you cancel the work visa and once you cancel and show proof, you would get the PR visa right away.

However, they do not have to allow sponsorship from overseas at all. If they wanted to, they could strike that and then you would be in a worse position where you'd have to go and establish residency in Canada before you can sponsor.

 

[brighteyes]

Quote from Leon:
"However, they do not have to allow sponsorship from overseas at all. If they wanted to, they could strike that and then you would be in a worse position where you'd have to go and establish residency in Canada before you can sponsor."

Point noted but as a Citizen of that country one of the rights is that it allows you to sponsor from overseas. As a PR you are not allowed to sponsor if living abroad.

Either way it is a punishment for genuine spouses that have to go through all this and live apart.

 

[Leon]

Point noted but as a Citizen of that country one of the rights is that it allows you to sponsor from overseas. As a PR you are not allowed to sponsor if living abroad.

Either way it is a punishment for genuine spouses that have to go through all this and live apart.

It is a punishment for genuine spouses but the reason it is there is because fraudsters have abused the system in the past. I am saying, I can understand why they want you to cancel the visa. You are allowed to sponsor from overseas based on that you are moving to Canada and apparently many people abuse this by stating they are moving to Canada but not actually doing it. That is why you are being punished. I also think they could all but finish your processing so they can promise you the PR before they make you cancel the visa but that's a different story.

 

[zeeshee]

Hi

I am having similar situation like you. I am in Dubai & my wife is living with me & want to sponsor me. I have filled all documents. I dont understand how & where to submit the fee?

Do i need to submit applications in Abu Dhabi or send them direct to Canada? Please advice?