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Spousal Sponsorship Application - Questions Regarding Evidence to Prove Relationship

rafavl

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We are planning on applying for a Family Class immigration visa (Spousal visa). I (the sponsor) am a Canadian Citizen and live here in Canada. My fiancée is Pakistani and currently resides there. We met through family while I was visiting Pakistan about two years ago and have been in a long distance relationship ever since.

As the visa application asks to provide pictures of the marriage celebration, we are planning on getting a court marriage and hosting a small reception the next time I visit (a traditional wedding, i.e. Church marriage and reception requires a lot of planning and will happen later, well after the submission of the visa application and hopefully soon after the arrival of the visa).

Does this court marriage celebration need to be grand; similar to a large wedding celebration with decorations, or will something small (ex. dinner out at a restaurant) with just immediate family and close friends suffice?

We will be submitting the visa application soon after (within two weeks to a month of) the court marriage. The visa application requires evidence of either of 2 situations:

a. Couple living together
b. Couple NOT living together (our situation). We have never lived together. I, the sponsor, have visited the applicant twice, each time I have stayed with my relatives. I will be visiting for a third time to get married.

Which should we be selecting on the visa application (a) or (b)?

If we choose (a) couple living together, how can this be proven?
i. Will changing the address on our national identity cards (we both possess ID cards for Pakistan) to the same address be considered proof?
ii. Is opening a joint bank account in Pakistan considered proof?
Note that this account won't be open for long before we submit the visa application (it would only be open for a couple weeks).
iii. Do we need to show that the sponsor is transferring money into this joint bank account?
iv. Is opening a joint bank account in Canada considered proof?

We are not sure if this is achievable as the applicant will not be here in Canada in person.

We don’t think we would be able to provide any other proof that is listed on the Checklist application form (i.e. ownership of rental property, rental agreement, utility accounts, vehicle insurance, etc) unless someone has any ideas on how this can be done.

OR

Should we be selecting (b) Couple NOT living together (which is technically our situation)? Proof can be provided in the form of chat history, emails, social media as well as sponsor visits (boarding passes and passport entry-exit stamps) as the visa application suggests.

For this case, we would need to provide further proof i.e. to show "Documentary evidence of financial support between you and your spouse, and/or shared expenses”.
v. If the sponsor makes global money transfers into the applicant’s bank account, and provide the receipt/confirmation showing the details of the transaction, will this be sufficient proof?
Or
vi. Does a new joint bank account (with both partners’ names in title) need to be created? Again, this account won't be open for long before the application is submitted.

vii. Is listing the applicant as a beneficiary on my insurance policy (through my employer) also proof? Should this be done and provided?

viii. Should we provide letters from family and friends stating that our relationship is genuine? Do these letters need to be notarized?
Note that we would already be married.
 

Wakki

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Marriage certificates
  • For spousal sponsorships, make sure you include a valid marriage certificate or proof of registration of your marriage with your application (see checklist details). The document(s) you submit must show that the marriage was legally registered with the government where it took place.
  • Check the country specific requirements to see if there are specific instructions for the country where the marriage took place.
Does this court marriage celebration need to be grand; similar to a large wedding celebration with decorations, or will something small (ex. dinner out at a restaurant) with just immediate family and close friends suffice?
------ your marriage does not have to be very elaborate......however, the IRCC visa officers who will review your sponsorship are very familiar with how marriages are organized locally in Pakistan and dinner out at a restaurant does not seem like a typical marriage in Pakistan......so be careful not to make your marriage look not genuine.


a. Couple living together
------ Don't choose this option.....its good to be honest with IRCC....you are your spouse have not lived together and don't plan to live together after marriage.

b. Couple NOT living together (our situation).......

Should we be selecting (b) Couple NOT living together (which is technically our situation)? Proof can be provided in the form of chat history, emails, social media as well as sponsor visits (boarding passes and passport entry-exit stamps) as the visa application suggests.
----- the above are all good supporting documents......provide any other documents as required in the checklist.

For this case, we would need to provide further proof i.e. to show "Documentary evidence of financial support between you and your spouse, and/or shared expenses”.
----- you could transfer some money (not much) to your spouse maybe like twice and include the transfer as supporting documents........but don't do it on an on-going basis to your spouse.......its not mandatory and be careful about money.
------ its not mandatory you include a joint account document.......however, if you could its a good supporting document.
------ listing the principal applicant as a beneficiary on your insurance policy its a good supporting document.....but not mandatory.
------ provide any available supporting documents as required in the spousal sponsorship checklist.
------ letters from family and friends stating that our relationship is genuine will be very helpful.....but don't have to be notarized, except they were translated if not in English of French.


Translation of documents
You must send the following for any document that is not in English or French, unless otherwise stated on your document checklist:
  • the English or French translation; and
  • an affidavit from the person who completed the translation (see below for details); and
  • a certified copy of the original document.
 
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ashpash22

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We are planning on applying for a Family Class immigration visa (Spousal visa). I (the sponsor) am a Canadian Citizen and live here in Canada. My fiancée is Pakistani and currently resides there. We met through family while I was visiting Pakistan about two years ago and have been in a long distance relationship ever since.

As the visa application asks to provide pictures of the marriage celebration, we are planning on getting a court marriage and hosting a small reception the next time I visit (a traditional wedding, i.e. Church marriage and reception requires a lot of planning and will happen later, well after the submission of the visa application and hopefully soon after the arrival of the visa).

Does this court marriage celebration need to be grand; similar to a large wedding celebration with decorations, or will something small (ex. dinner out at a restaurant) with just immediate family and close friends suffice?

We will be submitting the visa application soon after (within two weeks to a month of) the court marriage. The visa application requires evidence of either of 2 situations:

a. Couple living together
b. Couple NOT living together (our situation). We have never lived together. I, the sponsor, have visited the applicant twice, each time I have stayed with my relatives. I will be visiting for a third time to get married.

Which should we be selecting on the visa application (a) or (b)?

If we choose (a) couple living together, how can this be proven?
i. Will changing the address on our national identity cards (we both possess ID cards for Pakistan) to the same address be considered proof?
ii. Is opening a joint bank account in Pakistan considered proof?
Note that this account won't be open for long before we submit the visa application (it would only be open for a couple weeks).
iii. Do we need to show that the sponsor is transferring money into this joint bank account?
iv. Is opening a joint bank account in Canada considered proof?

We are not sure if this is achievable as the applicant will not be here in Canada in person.

We don’t think we would be able to provide any other proof that is listed on the Checklist application form (i.e. ownership of rental property, rental agreement, utility accounts, vehicle insurance, etc) unless someone has any ideas on how this can be done.

OR

Should we be selecting (b) Couple NOT living together (which is technically our situation)? Proof can be provided in the form of chat history, emails, social media as well as sponsor visits (boarding passes and passport entry-exit stamps) as the visa application suggests.

For this case, we would need to provide further proof i.e. to show "Documentary evidence of financial support between you and your spouse, and/or shared expenses”.
v. If the sponsor makes global money transfers into the applicant’s bank account, and provide the receipt/confirmation showing the details of the transaction, will this be sufficient proof?
Or
vi. Does a new joint bank account (with both partners’ names in title) need to be created? Again, this account won't be open for long before the application is submitted.

vii. Is listing the applicant as a beneficiary on my insurance policy (through my employer) also proof? Should this be done and provided?

viii. Should we provide letters from family and friends stating that our relationship is genuine? Do these letters need to be notarized?
Note that we would already be married.
Do not select that you are living together if you are not actually living together. That would be misrepresentation and would get you rightfully denied and potentially banned for 5 years from reapplying.

Considering that you want to have a small marriage and not a traditional wedding right away, you should submit as much relationship proof as you possibly can. Yes open a joint bank account, it can be in Pakistan and you can transfer her money to show support. Yes make her your beneficiary on your life insurance and include the proof. Doesn’t matter if this stuff is newly created. Include the 10 pages of proof of contact, all proof of your visits to each other, 20 photos (including some from wedding day), yes include some letters from family and friends, and write a letter stating yourself stating that you are planning a traditional wedding as well and include as much information as you can on that event. Having only met her a few times and wanting to only have a small wedding initially means you definitely need to include these other things.
 

Ukrainian girl

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I would strongly recommend you to ask your question on the Pakistan thread. This part about having only small court wedding before applying can be tricky because from what I read in Pakistan it’s a cultural norm to have large weddings with lots of guests and certain procedures need to be followed so a couple can live together after the wedding so they might consider it as a red flag that you only did a small court wedding which might be against the cultural norms. But again, ask people on the Pakistani thread.

https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/spousal-sponsorship-pakistan-london-visa-office.203899/unread
 
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