sponsorship process

[Dalila73]

Hello!

I live in Mexico and I am engaged with a Canadian, we are planning to marry next month and start with the sponsorship process immediately. We are also planning to get pregnant soon, would the pregnancy affect the process of the PR? how should we handle the sponsorship process if I am pregnant?

Please help

 

[DuberBlue]

Not the expert here, but, in all honesty....I would STRONGLY consider holding off on the pregnancy until your PR is confirmed. From everything I have read here, having a child changes the whole process because you are now adding a dependent to the application.

Now, if the child is born in Canada, perhaps that changes things somewhat, but then, bear in mind the costs associated with doing that (you will be on the hook for all the medical expenses involved).

Again, my wife has held off on pregnancy throughout this process so don't consider this the definitive answer, but I'm curious as to what other people may have to say.

 

[charliem]

Not the expert here, but, in all honesty....I would STRONGLY consider holding off on the pregnancy until your PR is confirmed. From everything I have read here, having a child changes the whole process because you are now adding a dependent to the application.

Now, if the child is born in Canada, perhaps that changes things somewhat, but then, bear in mind the costs associated with doing that (you will be on the hook for all the medical expenses involved).

Again, my wife has held off on pregnancy throughout this process so don't consider this the definitive answer, but I'm curious as to what other people may have to say.

That's an interesting take.
Having a child may help the sponsored person to get PR visa (without the two-year condition).

If the mother of the child has status in Canada, then they would have medical insurance. You shouldn't have to worry about the costs of child birth. Besides, with employment one can get more healthcare benefits.

 

[Rob_TO]

From everything I have read here, having a child changes the whole process because you are now adding a dependent to the application.

If the sponsor is a Canadian citizen and can pass their citizenship to their children born outside of Canada, then the child would already be Canadian so wouldn't need to be added as dependent to the application. If the sponsor is a PR or not able to pass citizenship, then the newborn would need to be added into the application as dependent.

Another aspect to consider is that if you are pregnant, you are unable to complete the x-ray portion of the medical since it's dangerous to the fetus. So your file will not be able to be processed until you give birth, and complete the full medical exam. For this reason it's advisable to complete your medical and send off the PR app before getting pregnant.

Depending what province you're moving to, you may not be eligible for healthcare if you intended to have the baby in Canada. Also you would need to apply for a TRV to visit Canada anyways. So if you do get pregnant during processing then make sure to prepare to deliver the baby in Mexico.

 

[Dalila73]

all the info you guys are giving me is very helpful, thanks!!! I will consider the pregnancy until I sent off the PR application . . .

 

[DuberBlue]

That's an interesting take.
Having a child may help the sponsored person to get PR visa (without the two-year condition).

If the mother of the child has status in Canada, then they would have medical insurance. You shouldn't have to worry about the costs of child birth. Besides, with employment one can get more healthcare benefits.

It is the mother who is in Mexico, however, and I'm assuming she has no current status in Canada Now, as you suggest, perhaps this doesn't mean there would be no coverage if the child is born here....the father's employment may have something that counts for this; I'm not entirely sure.

From what Rob_TO writes, if the child is born outside Canada but the father is a citizen, then perhaps citizenship may get passed on; I may have been incorrect about that....for my own situation, the issue has not been so much one of affecting the application process, but of incurring the hefty expense

 

[DuberBlue]

Ahh...from Wikipedia:

"Every person born outside Canada after 15 February 1977, who has a Canadian parent at the time of birth, is automatically a Canadian citizen by descent."

I stand corrected, then

So while the app itself may not be affected, do take Rob_TO's advice regarding the x-rays...and also consider where the coverage for the childbirth will come from

...and that's probably as much advice as I can give now

 

[screech339]

all the info you guys are giving me is very helpful, thanks!!! I will consider the pregnancy until I sent off the PR application . . .

Keep in mind that since you plan to get pregnant after submitting your application, you will still be subject to the 2 year PR conditional status once you land and become PR. The condition is based on the date time of application submitted date. You have no children and marriage is less than 2 years.

Screech339

 

[screech339]

Ahh...from Wikipedia:

"Every person born outside Canada after 15 February 1977, who has a Canadian parent at the time of birth, is automatically a Canadian citizen by descent."

I stand corrected, then

I don't believe you are correct. As of april 17,2009, if the child is born outside canada to canadian parent who is also born outside Canada will not get canadian citizenship. If the canadian parent was born inside canada or naturalized canadian, only then that child get canadian citizenship.

Screech339

 

[olinadposadas]

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[DuberBlue]

I don't believe you are correct. As of april 17,2009, if the child is born outside canada to canadian parent who is also born outside Canada will not get canadian citizenship. If the canadian parent was born inside canada or naturalized canadian, only then that child get canadian citizenship.

Screech339

As I read on in the article it's unclear to me...they do say if the parent is a Canadian citizen by either birth or naturalization, but that it is limited to by descent to one generation born outside Canada. So if the father is a naturalized citizen (i.e. even if not born here) would it not still count for the child? I wonder why they mention the naturalization thing at all then if they only intend it to be passed down from people who were actually born here.... still, it sounds like you may be right

Of course, maybe Wikipedia isn't the best place for me to be researching some of this stuff, and clearly I'm in over my head trying to give advice regarding parental matters

 

[screech339]

As I read on in the article it's unclear to me...they do say if the parent is a Canadian citizen by either birth or naturalization, but that it is limited to by descent to one generation born outside Canada. So if the father is a naturalized citizen (i.e. even if not born here) would it not still count for the child? I wonder why they mention the naturalization thing at all then if they only intend it to be passed down from people who were actually born here.... still, it sounds like you may be right

Of course, maybe Wikipedia isn't the best place for me to be researching some of this stuff, and clearly I'm in over my head trying to give advice regarding parental matters

The change in the citizenship law was made to stop the abuse of generational passing of the torch. They now limited citizenship to 1st and 2nd generations.

Screech339

 

[Dalila73]

My fiance is a Canadian citizen by birth so the child would be Canadian as well? what a relief!

 

[screech339]

My fiance is a Canadian citizen by birth so the child would be Canadian as well? what a relief!

Yes that is correct.