Sponsoring wife and her kids who are not mine

[Andvv]

Hello,
Please help me on that .
I am Canadian citizen .
My wife lives abroad .
We grew up together , after I immigrated and life separated us.
I was visiting her as she couldn’t afford.
Now I have decided to propose her and marry her.
I want to buy tickets invite her and hold wedding here as my family is here.
After I will sponsor her , but how does it go with the kids?
I am not the father?
I want to sponsor them as well
What is the procedure and how long does it take where they can live here or in their country .
I have well payed job I also have a kid and I am divorced .
So I have enough money to sponsor them
But what has to be done
I read here for dependent / adopted child , but they are not mine plus they have a father already what adoption
I am misunderstand something
Appreciate all comments
Br

 

[armoured]

After I will sponsor her , but how does it go with the kids?
I am not the father?
...
I read here for dependent / adopted child , but they are not mine plus they have a father already what adoption

You sponsor her as the principal applicant plus any dependents of hers.

The other parent (the father) will have to write a no-objection form that he will let the children emigrate with her (or a solid sole custody court decision etc - I say solid only in that the law in some countries may not allow sole custody in same sense as in Canadian law).

You do not have to formally adopt the children.

But read the application materials, they go into detail on this.

 

[canuck78]

It may be very challenging for your future wife and her children to actually come to Canada to get married here. Is she from a visa free country? If she could not afford to visit she unlikely would not qualify. Would have a plan B if you can’t get married. Do you have a relationship history other than a recent visit? Any other recent in person visits? Unless their father gives up custody they would not be able to be adopted and would be your step children. You can still sponsor stepchildren but the father will need approve of their move if he has any custody of the children.

 

[Andvv]

Yes she is from a visa free country
I mean she could come as she is with two kids
She has good education bachelor and master
She will find job easily
She knows English fluently
The thing is she has never been married
And the other thing she has full custody
The fathers never signed up for this kids
And still I don’t want to adopt as is gonna take forever

 

[Andvv]

I mean she didn’t come yet as is no easy with two kids
It was easier for me to go
Appreciate your answers

 

[canuck78]

Yes she is from a visa free country
I mean she could come as she is with two kids
She has good education bachelor and master
She will find job easily
She knows English fluently
The thing is she has never been married
And the other thing she has full custody
The fathers never signed up for this kids
And still I don’t want to adopt as is gonna take forever

Does she have her own funds? You said she could not afford to come visit. She may be asked to show that she can afford the visit at the POE. She would only be coming to visit with her 2 children so should have returned tickets purchased that she can cancel. She can’t appear to be moving to Canada with her children although should not lie if asked specific questions by CBSA. They should only have luggage that would be typical of visitors. As visitors her children could have difficulty attending school until they obtain PR unless they get student permits and pay international fees. It will depend on the school board and province. Some have a policy to overlook immigration status. You will have to purchase private health insurance for medical emergencies. Routine card would not be covered. There are lots of factors that will determine how long they may not have provincial health insurance including where you live. It could be quite a long time. The fact that she has never been married but has children is not an issue. Are both children from the same father? If so, there seems to have been a relationship between them so it would be much better if he gave approval that they could move to Canada. In general it is always much easier if the parent gives approval for their child to move to Canada. Most times the father still has to relinquish his rights to the children before you are eligible to adopt. Adoption isn’t necessary.

 

[Andvv]

Kids are from different fathers . In birth certificate says father unknown .
Kids are 10 years old and 2 years old .
Over there is normal to be like this
Because she never married .
Well I don’t know what is the process
She will come to marry me and I will start process sponsoring
Do they have to stay here
Or have to go back
Or only she can come for marriage and go back I have no idea
Can she try for work permit or she has to wait
She can show her own funds
I mean she is not that rich but she has enough to show Of what is typically required .
I said it wrongly “she can’t afford “
I meant it was not easy pregnancy little baby one more kid...

 

[canuck78]

Kids are from different fathers . In birth certificate says father unknown .
Kids are 10 years old and 2 years old .
Over there is normal to be like this
Because she never married .
Well I don’t know what is the process
She will come to marry me and I will start process sponsoring
Do they have to stay here
Or have to go back
Or only she can come for marriage and go back I have no idea
Can she try for work permit or she has to wait
She can show her own funds
I mean she is not that rich but she has enough to show Of what is typically required .
I said it wrongly “she can’t afford “
I meant it was not easy pregnancy little baby one more kid...

You really need to look at the various immigration programs to determine if you should apply Outland or inland. As previously mentioned there are much more factors to consider when doing inland with children because of access to education, healthcare, living expenses will be higher, etc. versus a couple getting married and living together while waiting 6 months to get a work permit if the get married right away, get a marriage certificate and then apply for a work permit along with inland sponsorship. When coming to Canada they would be visiting. Have you looked at the cost of childcare if the mother works. In many cities you are looking at 1800+ a month for daycare. Outland would be much easier because they would arrived when they all had PR. This is a decision you need to look at and consider all the possibilities. Look at your budget to see if you could cover living expenses, medical expenses which may be higher if a child has regular prescriptions or medical needs, possible international student fees (10k) and approval of a student permit if necessary, etc.

 

[andrew3081]

What country is the wife from?

 

[Andvv]

Bulgaria

 

[canuck78]

Bulgaria

What is important is establishing your relationship especially in person time since you have been dating.

 

[armoured]

Kids are from different fathers . In birth certificate says father unknown .
Kids are 10 years old and 2 years old .

Then to return to your original question, you do not need to adopt her children, and should be no permission from father required as not on birth certificate. You just need to include the children on her application.

Obvioulsy you have much to do on looking into the rest of the process, though.

 

[canuck78]

Then to return to your original question, you do not need to adopt her children, and should be no permission from father required as not on birth certificate. You just need to include the children on her application.

Obvioulsy you have much to do on looking into the rest of the process, though.

EU has pretty liberal rules about fathers claiming paternity. Would be much better for fathers to sign off especially if they see the children or they are easy to contact. Do the children have any contact with their father’s or the father’s family?

 

[armoured]

EU has pretty liberal rules about fathers claiming paternity. Would be much better for fathers to sign off especially if they see the children or they are easy to contact. Do the children have any contact with their father’s or the father’s family?

That is a good point, it would be bad to start the process and discover a problem later with this aspect - best to have the father sign off if possible.

 

[canuck78]

That is a good point, it would be bad to start the process and discover a problem later with this aspect - best to have the father sign off if possible.

It is unclear whether the fathers have any interaction with the children. Based on the comment that it is not unusual for fathers not to feature on the birth certificate it’s not clear whether that means the fathers have no involvement in their lives.