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Sponsoring undeclared child

scylla

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Hello family!!!So my husband sponsored me in 2017,got two kids ...But he has a son back home that he did not declare when he came as a refugee.I want to know if I can sponsor him since he is going thru bankruptcy under the new pilot project of sponsoring undeclared family members.Can I sponsor my step son?
Only your husband can sponsor him. He will need to wait until he has cleared the bankruptcy before he can qualify.
 

Thabe

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Hi
I need your advice please
I came to canada via skilled migration stream . My wife and daughter got visa with me in same process but they didn't come because of second baby just born 2 months before landing. I didn't declare the second because she said she cannot travel.we canceled their visas but not report the new one.
Can i sponsor my family like one similar case got through (leenvi).
 

scylla

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Hi
I need your advice please
I came to canada via skilled migration stream . My wife and daughter got visa with me in same process but they didn't come because of second baby just born 2 months before landing. I didn't declare the second because she said she cannot travel.we canceled their visas but not report the new one.
Can i sponsor my family like one similar case got through (leenvi).
The short answer is no.

You can sponsor your wife and daughter but not the second baby. Unfortunately you can never sponsor the second baby since you failed to declare this child before landing. There is a pilot that is allowing sponsorship of undeclared chidren. However it is only open to people who immigrated through family sponsorship or as refugees. Since you immigrated through economic immigration, you do not qualify for the pilot.
 

steaky

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The short answer is no.

You can sponsor your wife and daughter but not the second baby. Unfortunately you can never sponsor the second baby since you failed to declare this child before landing. There is a pilot that is allowing sponsorship of undeclared chidren. However it is only open to people who immigrated through family sponsorship or as refugees. Since you immigrated through economic immigration, you do not qualify for the pilot.
That said the wife once formally became PR, can sponsor her second child to immigrate Canada?

However, they got same process like the husband, so probably not.
 

scylla

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VISA ISSUED...
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That said the wife once formally became PR, can sponsor her second child to immigrate Canada?
No. Child wasn't declared and isn't recognized as a dependent for family sponsorship regardless of who does it.

Only way this would be possible is if the wife immigrates independently through an economic immigration stream like express entry.
 
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msucanthave

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They didn’t become a PR because they did not land. You can sponsor them through family sponsorship since your wife and daughter were declared and examined at the time you became a PR. This actually helps your case since your wife was declared, your second baby can be a dependent under your wife’s application. As long as undeclared family member is not being sponsored as Principal applicant but rather an accompanying dependent of a member of the family class, your undeclared child is not inadmissible under R117(9)(d)
 

scylla

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28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
They didn’t become a PR because they did not land. You can sponsor them through family sponsorship since your wife and daughter were declared and examined at the time you became a PR. This actually helps your case since your wife was declared, your second baby can be a dependent under your wife’s application. As long as undeclared family member is not being sponsored as Principal applicant but rather an accompanying dependent of a member of the family class, your undeclared child is not inadmissible under R117(9)(d)
That's incorrect unfortunately.
 

msucanthave

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That's incorrect unfortunately.
Im in a group on Facebook that has a lot of similar cases and was successfully approved because the undeclared family member was not being sponsored as a PRINCIPAL APPLICANT but instead a dependent of a declared family member for example a spouse.
 

msucanthave

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That said the wife once formally became PR, can sponsor her second child to immigrate Canada?

However, they got same process like the husband, so probably not.
If they landed, which they did not. Then the wife cant sponsor the baby. But because they did not land and acquired PR status, if the husband is eligible to sponsor then he can sponsor his wife and 2kids as a dependent under the wife‘s application
 

Thabe

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There are positive only from you and mostly negative reply, anyway thanks for your time.I saw one case like me from manilla got reply as kid is admissible.
Only thing i can do trust God.
If not I decided to go back home.
If you get any information please let me know
Thanks a lot
 

msucanthave

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The short answer is no.

You can sponsor your wife and daughter but not the second baby. Unfortunately you can never sponsor the second baby since you failed to declare this child before landing. There is a pilot that is allowing sponsorship of undeclared chidren. However it is only open to people who immigrated through family sponsorship or as refugees. Since you immigrated through economic immigration, you do not qualify for the pilot.
If he sponsor his wife through family sponsorship under spousal application, then the wife can
There are positive only from you and mostly negative reply, anyway thanks for your time.I saw one case like me from manilla got reply as kid is admissible.
Only thing i can do trust God.
If not I decided to go back home.
If you get any information please let me know
Thanks a lot
2017-2020 canada spousal common law and conjugal sponsorship
Look that group up on facebook. You’ll find helpful information
 

canuck78

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If he sponsor his wife through family sponsorship under spousal application, then the wife can

2017-2020 canada spousal common law and conjugal sponsorship
Look that group up on facebook. You’ll find helpful information
The children in the situation must have been born after the father landed. Because the father landed after the baby was born when IRCC cross references the father's landing documents and the family sponsorship documents IRCC will realize he landed without declaring he already had a 2nd child. This isn't allowed because if a the 2nd child had a serious medical issue the whole family could have been denied PR. If you allow people not to declare the 2nd child and sponsor them through family sponsorship after the fact then the medical inadmissibility clause can be avoided.
 

Thabe

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The children in the situation must have been born after the father landed. Because the father landed after the baby was born when IRCC cross references the father's landing documents and the family sponsorship documents IRCC will realize he landed without declaring he already had a 2nd child. This isn't allowed because if a the 2nd child had a serious medical issue the whole family could have been denied PR. If you allow people not to declare the 2nd child and sponsor them through family sponsorship after the fact then the medical inadmissibility clause can be avoided.
What will be happen if the child medical shows perfectly alright.
I did this stupid thing to overcome the process delay as my family was not coming with me.