Sponsoring spouse and child when Sponsor is inside Canada and applicants are out

[canuck_in_uk]

This seems strange. Of course only my wife and child are coming to Canada, but from I gather from this, she has to include her mother as well? Her mother does not intend to move to Canada as she runs a successful business in Korea, but we have to include her in the application?

Your son is not counted in question 3, as he is not included in the app. The answer is only 1.

Another one, in the contact information is it better we use her Korean address, or is possible to put down the address I'm currently staying at in Canada? Furthermore, if I want everything to come to me, should I use my Canadian address under mailing address but then my wife's Korean address under residential? Just to make it quite clear that she is in fact applying from outside of Canada.

Edit) Another quick one. This is related to a question I typed in above. As we did not get around to applying for my son's citizenship, but since I am a Canadian, can I put Canadian as well as Korean on the application?

Oh, and for his language. He's still just a baby, but he's old enough that he can say a few things, but mostly in Korean. I'm going to put Korean as his native tongue, but as for the question, Are you able to communicate in English or French? I mean, he can say daddy and understands me a bit, but he's far from being fluent. Should I say no?

The residential address needs to be the one where she actually is. The mailing address can be yours. The address doesn't dictate outland or inland; they are different application packages.

You should not be answering any questions about your son's language. Again, he is Canadian and NOT included as a dependent in the app.

 

[watermand754]

Huh. I see. So regardless of the fact that he is currently carrying a Korean passport and Korean citizenship identification, I do not need to include him in this application? When they do eventually arrive then, will I have to go to immigration with them to confirm his Canadian citizenship? Thank you for your help.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Huh. I see. So regardless of the fact that he is currently carrying a Korean passport and Korean citizenship identification, I do not need to include him in this application? When they do eventually arrive then, will I have to go to immigration with them to confirm his Canadian citizenship? Thank you for your help.

It doesn't matter that he has a Korean passport. He's Canadian. You won't have to confirm his citizenship at immigration; your wife can just explain that his proof of citizenship is processing.

 

[cheng9999]

It doesn't matter that he has a Korean passport. He's Canadian. You won't have to confirm his citizenship at immigration; your wife can just explain that his proof of citizenship is processing.

It's best that you get your son's citizenship and passport application underway. Your wife's sponsorship and your son's application are 2 different things, and there's no reason why they cannot be done in parallel. As it is done nowadays, you first get the citizenship clarified, and after that you can apply for your son's passport. Just the first process can take over 1 year. I am not sure if it can be done in Canada by you or at the Korea office by your wife...it certainly is more complicated with you not being there in person.

There's also a question from other members which you have not answered. Are you a Canada-born or naturalized citizen? If yes, then your son is a citizen. If you got your citizenship through at least one of your parents (i.e. you were not born in Canada yourself or you did not get your citizenship through immigration yourself or with your parents) only because he/she is Canadian, then your son does not inherit your citizenship status. If this is the case, you have to apply for him as well.

 

[krishnalynn]

Thank you for the speedy response. That clears that up.

Another one, in the contact information is it better we use her Korean address, or is possible to put down the address I'm currently staying at in Canada? Furthermore, if I want everything to come to me, should I use my Canadian address under mailing address but then my wife's Korean address under residential? Just to make it quite clear that she is in fact applying from outside of Canada. Should I then fill out a representative form under myself to legitimize it?

It doesn't matter. If you want the forms to come to you, put your address. Even if she was living inside Canada she can still do the outland app, it doesn't matter where she lives. You don't need a use of a representative form, you are the sponsor. Mark N/A on the checklist for this.

 

[watermand754]

There's also a question from other members which you have not answered. Are you a Canada-born or naturalized citizen? If yes, then your son is a citizen. If you got your citizenship through at least one of your parents (i.e. you were not born in Canada yourself or you did not get your citizenship through immigration yourself or with your parents) only because he/she is Canadian, then your son does not inherit your citizenship status. If this is the case, you have to apply for him as well.

I am Canada-born.

 

[watermand754]

Another question.

I am currently filling out the background declaration form for my wife (working with her of course to get all of the correct details down). However at the top it says: Indicate whether you are A) the principal applicant or B)The spouse, common-law partner, etc.

Since this is her information, should I check A, or since I am the one filling it out (under her guidance of course), should I check B? My question is, if I check B, I'm still filling her information out, right?

Oh, and as for the supporting documents, we have pretty much everything gathered together so far, but I just wanted to ask a few quick questions about numbers 18 and 19. I worked before coming to Canada of course, and since returning I did some seasonal work in November and December for a local business, but am currently unemployed since my seasonal contract has ended. I will be including letters from my parents stating that they will be willing to provide for us while we look for work, but other than those letters, what specifically should I include to prove what I've been doing for the past 12 months employment wise/income wise? Would a copy of my employment contract from my school in Korea suffice? If not, since my wife works as a tax adviser in Korea and handled my taxes could she write up a document proving my income for that period? As for the job I did here, could I write up a letter stating the hours I worked/wages made and get my manager at the shop to sign it for me?

Thanks for all of your advice, I'm still just trying to make sure I get this done as perfectly as possible to prevent any unfortunate hitches.

 

[watermand754]

Another quick question: on the background declaration form I need to fill out all of the education info for my wife, however the form does not have middle school in the check boxes. Does middle school count under elementary/primary or secondary/high school?

Edit: I'm filling out the addresses now, and I hit another stumbling block. My wife cannot remember the address she lived at for some of 2006. I've gone all internet detective and found the building address from her recollections and using google maps; however, for the life of her, she just' can't remember the suite number. Can I leave that out and just put the street address of the building? This is a major stumbling block for us if it's a deal-breaker for our application because she doesn't have any way of finding it out. She's kept pretty meticulous documents with addresses of most of the places she's lived, but she didn't seem to have received any mail while living there (at least that she's kept). Solved

 

[canuck_in_uk]

I am currently filling out the background declaration form for my wife (working with her of course to get all of the correct details down). However at the top it says: Indicate whether you are A) the principal applicant or B)The spouse, common-law partner, etc.

Since this is her information, should I check A, or since I am the one filling it out (under her guidance of course), should I check B? My question is, if I check B, I'm still filling her information out, right?

It doesn't matter that you are filling it out for her. It's her form and her information, so it's A, the Principal Applicant. The reason that there is a choice for B is because these forms are generic and used in different types of apps, including apps where both the Principal Applicant and their spouse are immigrating together.

what specifically should I include to prove what I've been doing for the past 12 months employment wise/income wise? Would a copy of my employment contract from my school in Korea suffice? If not, since my wife works as a tax adviser in Korea and handled my taxes could she write up a document proving my income for that period? As for the job I did here, could I write up a letter stating the hours I worked/wages made and get my manager at the shop to sign it for me?

You should include your payslips. You could also include your Korean income tax return.

Another quick question: on the background declaration form I need to fill out all of the education info for my wife, however the form does not have middle school in the check boxes. Does middle school count under elementary/primary or secondary/high school?

I would include it under elementary.

And I know you solved the address query but I'll mention anyways that stuff like that doesn't matter; CIC knows that many people can't remember addresses/phone numbers/etc. from years. ago. You can just put down what you do remember and then attach a separate sheet explaining you don't remember some stuff.

 

[watermand754]

Excellent. Thank you. That's exactly what I needed to know.

On the Sponsored Spouse-Partner Questionnaire, in the Development of your relationship section, do I need to detail everything up to the present, or just until marriage? And "Provide details about outings, trips taken together, etc" We've been together since 2006, were married in 2013, and as you can imagine we've gone and done quite a few things in that time. Should I detail everything until marriage, or straight up until now? Do I need to detail absolutely every trip we've ever taken together, or just ones we can supply photographic evidence for? I've built up a little collection of photos of trips we've taken together, however, I've unfortunately lost a LOT of pictures over the years due to computer crashes etc. I may be able to scrounge some more stuff together from places like Facebook (who ever thought Facebook would come in handy one day, eh?) but I obviously can't account for EVERY single trip we've ever been on together with photographic evidence.

Oh, I've since taken my son's details out of the generic application as I was advised, but should I still be accounting for him on the Additional Dependents declaration or the additional family information documents?

 

[canuck_in_uk]

No, you most definitely do not need to detail every aspect of your life and every trip you've taken. Many people go seriously overboard on this and write a multi page essay but it's really not necessary, especially when you guys have already been together so long and have kids. Your burden of proof is pretty low. I believe our answer was about 3 paragraphs, how we met, when we moved in together, travelled to meet the families, moved to another country together, decided to move to Canada. You know, the big stuff. I don't think we even mentioned trips or outings, besides the family one and moving countries. And there is definitly no need to have pictures from every single trip.

Don't overthink it. Just give a brief outline of your life together and that will be fine.

You must list your son on the Additional Family form and in the Sponsorship Evaluation form, IMM5481. He isn't a dependent, so he is not listed on the Additional Dependent form.