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vitlen

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nush78l said:
My father was sent for more tests and looks like he has renal failure. He was assessed by a Nephrologist and was told that, at this time his condition is stable with medication and will not require dialysis but the doctor advised that CIC tends to view these cases negatively as there is no guarantee that he will not require dialysis in the next 10 years. My father is 75 years old.

My question is, should I withdraw my parents application before a formal refusal? or let the process go through and wait for the inevitable refusal letter? A positive appeal after refusal in this case is highly doubtful and costly too.

I want to avoid a "black mark" per se, so that my parents will not have any issues with at least travelling on visitor's visa to Canada and other countries. I am worried that a refusal for PR in Canada has to be disclosed when applying for visitors visa and this can pose problems in the future.

Appreciate any advise and insight.
I would still give it a try. A doctor says a "CIC tends" doesn't sound convincing. I'm not sure they look 10 years ahead.. The main point is that " at this time his condition is stable with medication and will not require dialysis ". I doubt CIC can refuse an application on the grounds that something may happen in 10 years...
 

nush78l

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vitlen said:
I would still give it a try. A doctor says a "CIC tends" doesn't sound convincing. I'm not sure they look 10 years ahead.. The main point is that " at this time his condition is stable with medication and will not require dialysis ". I doubt CIC can refuse an application on the grounds that something may happen in 10 years...
Actually they do look 10 years ahead and there is another sponsor whose father failed the medicals due to similar issues.

See threads below:
waichhang said:
Hi! All
I sponsored my parents in 2010, and my parents application for Canadian PR was rejected on health grounds due to my father having renal failure and hence being an excessive demand on Canadian healthcare. CIC has sent me a letter indicating I can appeal this decision as a right of sponsor. Any one have a similar experience and any suggestion as to how to proceed with the appeal and what are the chances of success . Thanks.
waichhang said:
Thanks for the response to everyone that has taken the time to post.
My father had an independent consultation with a nephrologist and he was of the opinion that he was not in immediate need for dialysis. The letter was sent for cic but it was not accepted. I also claimed that he had made numerous visit to Canada in the past 5-6 years last was on a super visa in the summer of 2015 and he was not needing any dialysis at that time though he had a a travellers insurance. He is aged 75 and is still running a business and very active . If needed dialysis as claimed by CIC then how could he still be working .
Rob_TO said:
Recall that CIC looks at possibility of medical excessive demand for a period of up to 10 years after the applicant would land as a PR. So even if the applicant's current situation is stable, CIC doctors may feel he would need more treatments (in this case dialysis) at some point during his first 10 years in Canada (so any age up to 85), which would then exceed the excessive demand criteria.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/medic/admiss/excessive.asp
a demand on health services or social services for which the anticipated costs would likely exceed average Canadian per capita health services and social services costs over a period of five consecutive years immediately following the most recent medical examination required under paragraph 16(2)(b) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA), unless there is evidence that significant costs are likely to be incurred beyond that period, in which case the period is no more than 10 consecutive years;
 

lenium

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I finally received a PPR request early this morning! :p
 

lenium

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Now I need your help folks!

My parents just got their PPR, hence they will be getting their PR visa soon. They are coming to Canada on March 7, and we are all flying to mexico on March 12 for my wedding. Then we will be returning to Canada on March 19. I'm just thinking this basically means that they will be landing on March 7, but won't have the PR card for return on March 19th ... What are we supposed to do now?

After getting the PR, can they still enter Canada on March 7 on their old supervisa? Can they return to Canada with no PR card?

Please help!
 

jeffporfirio1

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Glad to see 2015 PGP applicant getting PPR. Not as fast as 2016, but at least not as slow as 2011 through 2014
 

dbss

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Jun 22, 2012
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lenium said:
Now I need your help folks!

My parents just got their PPR, hence they will be getting their PR visa soon. They are coming to Canada on March 7, and we are all flying to mexico on March 12 for my wedding. Then we will be returning to Canada on March 19. I'm just thinking this basically means that they will be landing on March 7, but won't have the PR card for return on March 19th ... What are we supposed to do now?

After getting the PR, can they still enter Canada on March 7 on their old supervisa? Can they return to Canada with no PR card?

Please help!
Given your mom lands as PR on Mar7:

I am guessing you will be flying to Canada. So when the airline sees your Mom's passport and do not look at her PR visa and sees that she has a valid super-visa, that may be ok. Once she reaches CBSA, she will have to explain the situation which will take time but atleast you can come.

The only other option is drive through States or get a PRTD from Mexico.
 

dbss

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Jun 22, 2012
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lenium said:
Will her supervisa be still valid thought?
Technically speaking, no it will not be valid because Permanent Residents cannot hold a visitor visa to Canada (which supervisa is). Point is if CBSA will put a cancelled stamp on it or not. They do in some cases but very rarely.

If they do not, then to the airline you can say you are travelling on Supervisa. Airline cares that you have the right to enter Canada and the required visa. It is a bit deceptive I agree and can go either way.
 

hbestluck

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Good news from Ankara. Seems to have started moving...

My in-laws received PPR request this morning!
 

lenium

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Can anybody tell me how long is the landing visa valid for? How long will you have to land in Canada since they send your passport back to you?

Thanks
 

jeffporfirio1

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lenium said:
Can anybody tell me how long is the landing visa valid for? How long will you have to land in Canada since they send your passport back to you?

Thanks
Varies for each, but a good rule of thumb is that expiry date will be 1 year from Medicals
 

Ibaadat

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Jan 28, 2013
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lenium said:
I finally received a PPR request early this morning! :p
many congrats...infact double for your wedding.
can u kindly share timeline. How long after medical was passed, mycic showed background check in process.
 

fneda

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Great News. Can you please share your timeline?


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Good news from Ankara. Seems to have started moving...

My in-laws received PPR request this morning!
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UOC

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Hi friends, I need help. I was asked to provide Police Certificate for my mother from Pakistan. She lived in two cities. Do I require to provide police certificate from every city she lived in or just one is fine. Appreciate advise.