Sponsoring My Wife while we both live together, abroad.

[Bearcheese]

Hi everyone,

I'm getting ready to submit my application for family sponsorship, but I have a question. I've heard that once my wife's application for permanent residence gets approved, we need to move back to Canada. Is that true? I'm currently working in Armenia and my wife is an Armenian citizen. She is unemployed and I am the only source of income in our family. But I'm not living in Canada so how can she be there while I'm here? Is there any way around her living in Canada for the time that she is a permanent resident, considering that she needs to be with me (because she is financially dependent on me) and I need to be in Armenia because of work?

Thanks for any help you guys can give me.

 

[scylla]

For your wife to be approved for PR, you must include proof in your application that you plan to relocate to Canada and live there once her PR status has been approved.

If you have no plans to return to Canada and live here - and therefore can't supply the proof CIC will require to approve your wife's application, then you may want to hold off submitting the sponsorship application until you are ready to return to Canada.

 

[Bearcheese]

Okay, let's say I do provide proof of intent to move back.

Let's say for arguments sake that I apply in year "1". My proof of intent to relocate back to Canada shows that I intend to move back there in year "4". Will they give her PR status starting from when the application is processed and approved? Or will they wait for year "4" first?

 

[Ponga]

Okay, let's say I do provide proof of intent to move back.

Let's say for arguments sake that I apply in year "1". My proof of intent to relocate back to Canada shows that I intend to move back there in year "4". Will they give her PR status starting from when the application is processed and approved? Or will they wait for year "4" first?

AFAIK, once she is granted PR, she will have to come to Canada to `land', before her medical results expire...which would only be a few months...nowhere near 3 years.

 

[screech339]

They will likely to reject your application due to no intention to move to Canada at time of issuing PR status to your wife. You have to show intent to move to Canada and ready to move back to Canada the moment CIC grants PR to your wife. You have to be willing to quit your current job and move to Canada, not "I'll move to Canada when I'm good and ready".

 

[screech339]

If you are intending to move in 3 years time, apply for PR sponsorship roughly a few months before your planned move so that by the time your wife granted PR, you are relatively close to your scheduled / planned move back to Canada.

 

[saria1]

I'm in a similar situation. We are applying for PR for my son and husband. Once we're granted the PR we'll make the trip to do their landing, setup a UPS box and have the PR cards mailed there with UPS forwarding them to me back in America.

After that is all done we'll be listing our home and applying for my sons citizenship all while still residing in the US. Once our home sells, then we're free to go. But we are fortunate that I'm a Canadian Citizen, which means every day my husband and son spend with me counts as time towards their residency.

I feel with the amount of time they take, with little too no contact made available to us, all to do such a simple process. They can then wait until they are complete, for me to wrap up my life here and move there. Essentially, we'll be moving once my house is sold, but it won't be listed until I have the landing papers in our hands.

 

[screech339]

I'm in a similar situation. We are applying for PR for my son and husband. Once we're granted the PR we'll make the trip to do their landing, setup a UPS box and have the PR cards mailed there with UPS forwarding them to me back in America.

After that is all done we'll be listing our home and applying for my sons citizenship all while still residing in the US. Once our home sells, then we're free to go. But we are fortunate that I'm a Canadian Citizen, which means every day my husband and son spend with me counts as time towards their residency.

I feel with the amount of time they take, with little too no contact made available to us, all to do such a simple process. They can then wait until they are complete, for me to wrap up my life here and move there. Essentially, we'll be moving once my house is sold, but it won't be listed until I have the landing papers in our hands.

Since you stated you are canadian citizen, your son should automatically be Canadian unless he is your step-son.

What you are doing amounts to deceiving CIC on your intention to move to Canada. You are basically coming back to Canada for the sole purpose of having your son and husband to get PR and skip back to US and move when you are good and ready. CIC won't care what happens to your situation in US, when your husband and son gets PR, they are suppose to move to Canada, not when your house gets sold.

 

[saria1]

Since you stated you are canadian citizen, your son should automatically be Canadian unless he is your step-son.

What you are doing amounts to deceiving CIC on your intention to move to Canada. You are basically coming back to Canada for the sole purpose of having your son and husband to get PR and skip back to US and move when you are good and ready. CIC won't care what happens to your situation in US, when your husband and son gets PR, they are suppose to move to Canada, not when your house gets sold.

Screech, I'm a little shocked at how you chose to fill in the lines in many areas. First, I am first generation born abroad, my son is second, hence he doesn't qualify for citizenship. Also our plans to the CIC are very well laid out with those specifics put in there. Just because you have your PR doesn't mean you have to immediately cross that border and take up residency. So there is no fraud taking place. I think you are a little quick to judge....

 

[chakrab]

Screech, I'm a little shocked at how you chose to fill in the lines in many areas. First, I am first generation born abroad, my son is second, hence he doesn't qualify for citizenship. Also our plans to the CIC are very well laid out with those specifics put in there. Just because you have your PR doesn't mean you have to immediately cross that border and take up residency. So there is no fraud taking place. I think you are a little quick to judge....

just want to mention that time spent with you doesn't count towards citizenship though.

 

[saria1]

just want to mention that time spent with you doesn't count towards citizenship though.

Per the CIC website:

"Time spent outside of Canada

You may also count days outside of Canada as days for which you satisfy the residency obligation in the following circumstances:

OPTION 1. Accompanying a Canadian citizen outside Canada

You may count each day that you accompanied a Canadian citizen outside Canada provided that the person you accompanied is your spouse, common-law partner or parent (if you are a child under 22 years of age).

Evidence required

You must provide supporting documents to prove that:

The person you are accompanying is a Canadian citizen; and
You are the spouse, common-law partner or child of that person.
Supporting documents may include:

marriage license or evidence of common-law partnership (mandatory if you are accompanying a spouse or common-law partner)
child’s birth certificate, baptismal document, or adoption or guardianship document (mandatory if you are accompanying a parent)
all passports or other travel documents of the person you are accompanying used in the five (5) years before the application (mandatory)
school or employment records
association or club memberships
documents showing the citizenship of the person you are accompanying, including the date the person became a Canadian citizen (mandatory)
evidence of the residential addresses of the person you are accompanying for the five (5) years before the application (mandatory)
any other documents that you want to have consider"

cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5445ETOC.asp#appendixA

It may not count towards my husband obtaining his citizenship, but it sure does maintain his PR if we choose to move back to the US.

 

[Ponga]

Not quite sure why you felt compelled to post that, since the comment was regarding citizenship, not PRO.

 

[saria1]

Not quite sure why you felt compelled to post that, since the comment was regarding citizenship, not PRO.

You are correct, I had realized that after I posted it. I'm not sure why he even to the topic of citizenship when the main conversation was about PR.

 

[Rob_TO]

Once we're granted the PR we'll make the trip to do their landing, setup a UPS box and have the PR cards mailed there with UPS forwarding them to me back in America.

Is that like a PO box? You better check if CIC will even mail PR cards to PO or UPS boxes. They may have a policy against it.

You may need to give the address of a friend/family in Canada to receive the PR card, and courier it to you in US.

 

[Concordia]

I am in similar situation

My wife is Canadian and currently in Canada and I am Pakistani living in Pakistan. Now I have got Job in Abu Dhabi. If she will join me over there and start working also then would it be possible she can apply for me spouse immigration from Abu Dhabi Canadian high Comission? or from where we should apply from Pakistan? even we will living in Abu dhabi?

Thanks in Advance!