Sponsored parents moving to other provinces

[little_sunshine126]

Hello, I am a Quebec resident and I have sponsorted my parents to immigrate to Canada, and they have been living in Montreal with me for awhile.

My grandpa who lives in Toronto has recently fallen critically ill, he does not want to go to a senior home, and our other family members in Toronto have fulltime jobs and can not look after him 24/7.

My mum is thinking of moving to Toronto to look after my grandpa, since he needs someone with him now 24/7.

However, I am wondering if this will impact the sponsorship, since I have taken the sponsorship agreement with Quebec. So there are 2 questions,

1), Would moving to Toronto impact my mum's application for citizenship? Since we signed the sponsorship agreement with the Quebec govt?
2), In Quebec, we only need to sign to sponsor our parents for 10 years (compared to 20 yrs elsewhere). Does this impact the length of the sponsorship agreement if she moves to another province?

Many thanks

 

[frange]

1- If you (PR) move to Ontario, you are NOT eligible to sponsor your parents under Quebec immigration process. You must change your address and file the financial part with federal (LICO for 3 Years back).

2- If the applicant (MOM) is in Canada under a temporary status and move temporary to another province, no impact as soon as you (sponsor) keeps your Quebec resident status. In this case, I would recommend that her address remain with you in Quebec; just to be in the safe side.

3- If the applicant (MOM) becomes PR, she can move everywhere in Canada. If not , check #2.

 

[little_sunshine126]

1- If you (PR) move to Ontario, you are NOT eligible to sponsor your parents under Quebec immigration process. You must change your address and file the financial part with federal (LICO for 3 Years back).

2- If the applicant (MOM) is in Canada under a temporary status and move temporary to another province, no impact as soon as you (sponsor) keeps your Quebec resident status. In this case, I would recommend that her address remain with you in Quebec; just to be in the safe side.

3- If the applicant (MOM) becomes PR, she can move everywhere in Canada. If not , check #2.

Hi, thanks so much. I am a Canadian citizen already, so it does not impact me.

My mum is a permanent resident in Canada. She became a PR under the family reunification category ( I sponsored her). So I guess you are saying she can move freely in Canada without any restrictions as a PR? Even though I did sign a sponsorship agreement with the quebec goverment? Does that effect the length of the sponsorship? Since in Quebec, the sponsorship period is 10 years and in other provinces, it is 20 years?

Thanks so much again and happy holidays

 

[frange]

Hi, thanks so much. I am a Canadian citizen already, so it does not impact me.

My mum is a permanent resident in Canada. She became a PR under the family reunification category ( I sponsored her). So I guess you are saying she can move freely in Canada without any restrictions as a PR? Even though I did sign a sponsorship agreement with the quebec goverment? Does that effect the length of the sponsorship? Since in Quebec, the sponsorship period is 10 years and in other provinces, it is 20 years?

Thanks so much again and happy holidays

I thought your Mum was still in the process... If she is PR already, she can move anywhere she wants in Canada Even she went through Quebec undertaking process.

You signed an agreement with Quebec for social benefits which means you have to pay back back or reimburse any social benefits such as welfare she takes anywhere in Canada. This do not restrain to Quebec.

NB: The sponsorship agreement is definitive and can't be amended if PR is granted. Moving from a province to another one will change anything.

 

[armoured]

The quebec agreement last for 10 years, whereas everywhere else in Canada, it is for 20 years. Does that mean if she moves out of Quebec, then the agreement will change to 20 years from 10 years? Many thanks

Since it's a legally binding document that you signed, no, it can't be just automatically changed like that (although I've not seen the text of the one you signed, so I'm assuming it doesn't actually contain such language).

Obviously if this 20/10 year difference is critical to you (which would be a bad thing), you might consult a lawyer.

 

[armoured]

Since it's a legally binding document that you signed, no, it can't be just automatically changed like that (although I've not seen the text of the one you signed, so I'm assuming it doesn't actually contain such language).

Obviously if this 20/10 year difference is critical to you (which would be a bad thing), you might consult a lawyer.

Note though, you do have to add a half hour if she moves to Newfoundland.

 

[steaky]

Hello, I am a Quebec resident and I have sponsorted my parents to immigrate to Canada, and they have been living in Montreal with me for awhile.

My grandpa who lives in Toronto has recently fallen critically ill, he does not want to go to a senior home, and our other family members in Toronto have fulltime jobs and can not look after him 24/7.

My mum is thinking of moving to Toronto to look after my grandpa, since he needs someone with him now 24/7.

However, I am wondering if this will impact the sponsorship, since I have taken the sponsorship agreement with Quebec. So there are 2 questions,

1), Would moving to Toronto impact my mum's application for citizenship? Since we signed the sponsorship agreement with the Quebec govt?
2), In Quebec, we only need to sign to sponsor our parents for 10 years (compared to 20 yrs elsewhere). Does this impact the length of the sponsorship agreement if she moves to another province?

Many thanks

Wouldn't it be easiier for grandpa moves to Quebec instead?

 

[little_sunshine126]

Wouldn't it be easiier for grandpa moves to Quebec instead?

His condition is quite critical now, he has a heart failure, he can't even get out of bed himself, we are not sure if he can survive a long trip. Also, there are other family members in Toronto who could help to look after him on some days and also they would like to see him.. so yah, it's a bit unfortunate...

 

[MJSPARV]

Note though, you do have to add a half hour if she moves to Newfoundland.

Wouldn't it be an hour and a half for NL and an hour for the other Atlantic provinces?

 

[frange]

Since it's a legally binding document that you signed, no, it can't be just automatically changed like that (although I've not seen the text of the one you signed, so I'm assuming it doesn't actually contain such language).

Obviously if this 20/10 year difference is critical to you (which would be a bad thing), you might consult a lawyer.

Once the sponsorship agreement is signed and applicant becomes PR; it's definitive and can't be amended, either for Quebec or the ROC (rest of Canada). Moving from Quebec to the ROC or vice versa will change anything into the agreements you signed unless sponsored person pass away...lo!!!! (It's void). Otherwise an agreement signed and PR granted is definitive; divorce, annulment, cancellation of the marriage have no impact on its entire application. Contact a lawyer only for that is a waist of time and money.

 

[armoured]

Once the sponsorship agreement is signed and applicant becomes PR; it's definitive and can't be amended, either for Quebec or the ROC (rest of Canada). Moving from Quebec to the ROC or vice versa will change anything into the agreements you signed unless sponsored person pass away...lo!!!! (It's void). Otherwise an agreement signed and PR granted is definitive; divorce, annulment, cancellation of the marriage have no impact on its entire application. Contact a lawyer only for that is a waist of time and money.

I don't disagree overall: my point was - as stated - that the guarantee is a legally binding document and can't be changed without both sides agreeing.

UNLESS (again, as I stated) the original language already provided (somehow) for this, with specific language saying the period of liability is for 20 years (not 10) if charges incurred outside quebec. (I don't know as I haven't read the Quebec agreement)

My point about contacting a lawyer was not that a lawyer would say anything much different; but that if it's important to you as sponsor, pony up and hire a professional (or at minimum read the agreement yourself).

Would it be a waste of money? Probably - but heuristic is that if the OP is really concerned, maybe it is worth it (to them) - which would of course be the Bad Thing I referred to.

And if they're not really concerned, they'll either read the agreement themselves or stop asking about it )

 

[frange]

I don't disagree overall: my point was - as stated - that the guarantee is a legally binding document and can't be changed without both sides agreeing.

UNLESS (again, as I stated) the original language already provided (somehow) for this, with specific language saying the period of liability is for 20 years (not 10) if charges incurred outside quebec. (I don't know as I haven't read the Quebec agreement)

My point about contacting a lawyer was not that a lawyer would say anything much different; but that if it's important to you as sponsor, pony up and hire a professional (or at minimum read the agreement yourself).

Would it be a waste of money? Probably - but heuristic is that if the OP is really concerned, maybe it is worth it (to them) - which would of course be the Bad Thing I referred to.

And if they're not really concerned, they'll either read the agreement themselves or stop asking about it )

Got you.

I read that somewhere on Quebec website ( can't find the source now) that moving out from Quebec do not remove any condition applied to the agreement signed. OP will still liable to Quebec government under the agreement he signed on behalf of the sponsored person even he moves out of the province.

 

[armoured]

Got you.

I read that somewhere on Quebec website ( can't find the source now) that moving out from Quebec do not remove any condition applied to the agreement signed. OP will still liable to Quebec government under the agreement he signed on behalf of the sponsored person even he moves out of the province.

Yes, I presume that's part of the agreement between the federal government and quebec - after all, part of the point of the standard one is that most of these costs accrue to the provinces (and feds I presume compensate somehow) - and for quebec separate approach for which I guess they compensate each other later in some form or another. Mostly accounting later with a touch of politics.