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nesan

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Aug 17, 2010
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I had sponsored my wife in 2008 still my case is in process. last may they ask me to pay for PR. I paid and confirm they received it by phone call. now it is October 6 months no answer?
What it could be

sponsor out side Canada. I am Divorce from First marriage having two children living with me. the second wife two children living in France. now came to Canada but Immigration did not stamp the visa why they let them in with out visa We have the boarding pass.
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,815
22,094
Toronto
Category........
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Buffalo
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Your case appears to have some complications. Based on your older posts, it appears you went on Social Assistance while your wife's application was being processed. Being on Social Assistance disqualifies you from sponsoring a spouse. So I suspect this has created delays with your file and CIC is verifying that you are in fact no longer on Social Assistance.

It also appears that you are still a PR (rather than a citizen). Is that correct? If so, how long have you been outside of Canada? To qualify to sponsor a spouse, PRs must be living in Canada. Short trips outside of the country (2-3 weeks) are fine. Anything longer and you risk having your file refused. If you are still a PR and have been out of Canada for a long period of time, this could be creating delays for your file as well.

I'd recommend that you order your GCMS notes to see what is going on with the application and what is created the hold up.
 

Peaches14

Star Member
Aug 29, 2012
89
4
Hamilton, Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
Vegreville transferred to Hamilton
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
12-03-2012
Doc's Request.
None requested but sent them anyway
AOR Received.
29-06-2012
File Transfer...
October 1, 2012
Med's Done....
21-02-2012
Don't worry, even cases that don't have issues have complications.
 

nesan

Member
Aug 17, 2010
16
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I am Still PR Holder but I am living in Toronto same address. Taking care of two children. no way to live out side Canada as I can not bring children out from GTO court order. I was in welfare I found job . Last year I wrote a letter to immigration about my difficulties. My daughter is 5 years old not yet start schooling? If my sponsor may rejected at least I can appeal and even appeal fails I may leave to France. The only burden is My two elder son will be abundant in Canada 21 years old and 15 years old. They are not willing to stay with their mother " sorry to say Mother is unstable in mind " Mental torture she give to them.

the immigration can not see my case as other normal cases. I need help I am struggling with two children. And It is time for me to decide. If I stay in Canada and leave the other two children in France or Go to France and leave the first two children in Canada.
Why immigration not want to understand the situation.

I got burden all my life because of my first wife fail to be a mother. I had never charge any case against her other than Divorce that after we separated for 4 years. The CAS and court with specialist found that she nor her family is capable to care the children.

I am not stable in jobs like many others not my fault. every time layoff short term contracts. Day or night shift is difficult for me. but still I work.

My question is why they did not stamp any visa in my wife last visit to Canada. How to take this? Do I have to inform them or it is as open visa? several time I try to call them. the answering machine says " high volume of call we call another time".
 

nesan

Member
Aug 17, 2010
16
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scylla said:
Your case appears to have some complications. Based on your older posts, it appears you went on Social Assistance while your wife's application was being processed. Being on Social Assistance disqualifies you from sponsoring a spouse. So I suspect this has created delays with your file and CIC is verifying that you are in fact no longer on Social Assistance.

It also appears that you are still a PR (rather than a citizen). Is that correct? If so, how long have you been outside of Canada? To qualify to sponsor a spouse, PRs must be living in Canada. Short trips outside of the country (2-3 weeks) are fine. Anything longer and you risk having your file refused. If you are still a PR and have been out of Canada for a long period of time, this could be creating delays for your file as well.

I'd recommend that you order your GCMS notes to see what is going on with the application and what is created the hold up.


Thanks for this idea to have a copy of GCMS. I am willing to see the reason for hold up
 

amikety

VIP Member
Dec 4, 2011
4,905
143
Calgary
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Visa Office......
CPP-O
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
15-01-2013
AOR Received.
2-2-2013
Med's Done....
12-10-2012
Passport Req..
9-07-2013
VISA ISSUED...
7-08-2013
LANDED..........
7-08-2013
We all have hardships, however, we made our choices. Immigration treats us all the same. We have to wait.

Just a suggestion, but if you are laid off again, instead of EI or welfare, try temp work. You'll have an income and meeting new people- plus you won't be on social assistance. I know temp work isn't glamorous, it's more about making sure you have rent and food.
 

nesan

Member
Aug 17, 2010
16
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amikety said:
We all have hardships, however, we made our choices. Immigration treats us all the same. We have to wait.

Just a suggestion, but if you are laid off again, instead of EI or welfare, try temp work. You'll have an income and meeting new people- plus you won't be on social assistance. I know temp work isn't glamorous, it's more about making sure you have rent and food.
Bringing everything to the general word like "We all have hardship" is not good way of dealing something, Rather it is to escape and conceal the fact and fault.
second thing now in Canada every job is temporary job. No employer need some one to work, rather some one to finish the job.
I am strongly disagree to the point to go EI is wrong. EI is the right if not why we are paying for EI . prolonging in unemployment is the fault. What can someone do if he suddenly loos the job, with two children. It is unimaginable to low level employees to save money for emergency needs. more over who is going to give a job in a week or two to avoid going to the EI. What happens if some one go EI after the sponsor is succeed.
Immigration should see what situation make one to go EI. Not he was in EI once. and try to help him solve the situation rather than executing the lines in paper.

Some time loosing time is called patient but some time it is offense. If I be more patient I may end up offending my younger children's education and my wife. Rather I am going to sacrifice my elder children. One of my elder I manage to bring up to university second one going to be miserable I guess. But both they are concern to miss the family and their younger brother and sister, They are going to eat junk food for rest of their life.
Immigration not consider those two children may become depressed in future and may dissipate the social resources.
"depressed people become unemployed and burden to others"

I do not mind even if immigration reject my sponsor, But I want them end it early as possible. I do not wan to admin I had abandon the children while there is a hope. So I keep going until they reject and devalue their humanity.
 

amikety

VIP Member
Dec 4, 2011
4,905
143
Calgary
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CPP-O
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
15-01-2013
AOR Received.
2-2-2013
Med's Done....
12-10-2012
Passport Req..
9-07-2013
VISA ISSUED...
7-08-2013
LANDED..........
7-08-2013
If you're going to decide to be negative, that is all you will see. And yes, it's a decision.

You knew when you signed the papers being on social assistance wasn't allowed. I'm offering a suggestion to avoid that. If you don't want to do it, that's fine... But don't say there was no other way.

While I have sympathy for you, there are many people out there in bad situations. We all to make due. You're faced with a tough choice, yes. We all are at one point or another. Many of us face being separated from loved ones, but we don't complain because it was a choice we made. Instead of throwing a pity party, I carry on as do countless others. We don't expect special treatment.

Order your notes and decide what to do from there. Many lawyers will give a free consultation, so talk to one if you need to. I wish you the best of luck in the future.
 

nesan

Member
Aug 17, 2010
16
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amikety said:
If you're going to decide to be negative, that is all you will see. And yes, it's a decision.

You knew when you signed the papers being on social assistance wasn't allowed. I'm offering a suggestion to avoid that. If you don't want to do it, that's fine... But don't say there was no other way.

While I have sympathy for you, there are many people out there in bad situations. We all to make due. You're faced with a tough choice, yes. We all are at one point or another. Many of us face being separated from loved ones, but we don't complain because it was a choice we made. Instead of throwing a pity party, I carry on as do countless others. We don't expect special treatment.

Order your notes and decide what to do from there. Many lawyers will give a free consultation, so talk to one if you need to. I wish you the best of luck in the future.
Your talk is just fancy and not reality.
Immigration has lot of time to waste. as long as the employers get paid is alright "Sorry not all but most"
but for an average family man, the time is critical. loosing time damage him and his depended severely, Time can not be buy later to loose now.
some time the adapting to the family need is seem like NEGATIVE thinking, but better than waste time Positively and be selfish.

My former wife is a big fat lire she got her PR followed by Nationality very easily because. because she know how to deal. "lie"
My another friend joined his wife after 6 years. After file case against immigration. Immigration request him to withdraw the case and issued PR.
How you can justify wasting other peoples time and detaching families?
If it is for individual try to immigrate to Canada then immigration may to take more time. But this is for the family.
Time being separate destroy the family this is a simple fact.

Any decision is wrong if it has no "goodwill" or "heart". But the people who decide is mostly never mind this, Indeed they enjoy their power."Not socially thinking"
I humbly suggest you to "Understand the person or situation rather than guessing on it or of him."
(The VIP members SCYLLA'S advise is use full
recommend that you order your GCMS notes to see what is going on with the application and what is created the hold up")
I know there are Other way around to solve this problem. But it Only work for Rich people.
"Some time One(D---l) curse someone to go to Heaven" the way I may have better life in Europe with guilty heart of leaving children behind.
I suggest immigration to appoint their employee, who only success fully in family life. not one literally educated but not qualified to be a human being.
Any way Thanks for the help to every one.
 

canadianwoman

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Nov 6, 2009
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30-01-2008
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05-05-2009
nesan said:
My question is why they did not stamp any visa in my wife last visit to Canada. How to take this? Do I have to inform them or it is as open visa?
Is your wife a French citizen? If she is, she does not need a visa to enter Canada. She can come as a visitor. If the border agent did not stamp any date in her passport, she can stay for 6 months.
She can also apply to extend her stay. She should apply about one month before her visitor status expires - that is, about 5 months after she entered Canada.
 

parker24

VIP Member
Nov 26, 2011
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124
Ontario
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Visa Office......
Buffalo, NY --> Los Angeles, CA
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-03-2012
File Transfer...
05-06-2012
Med's Done....
16-11-2011
Passport Req..
16-11-2012
LANDED..........
04-01-2013
amikety said:
We all have hardships, however, we made our choices. Immigration treats us all the same. We have to wait.

Just a suggestion, but if you are laid off again, instead of EI or welfare, try temp work. You'll have an income and meeting new people- plus you won't be on social assistance. I know temp work isn't glamorous, it's more about making sure you have rent and food.
EI is allowed. Disability is allowed. Welfare is not allowed.
 

nesan

Member
Aug 17, 2010
16
0
canadianwoman said:
Is your wife a French citizen? If she is, she does not need a visa to enter Canada. She can come as a visitor. If the border agent did not stamp any date in her passport, she can stay for 6 months.
She can also apply to extend her stay. She should apply about one month before her visitor status expires - that is, about 5 months after she entered Canada.
Thank you for
canadianwoman
VIP Member
She is French national travailing is not problem.The difficulties are Schooling and medical needs and travel expenses satisfy the wife's parents that I am settling her "as it is almost 10 years but I could not settle her till today". she need to woke when I have lost my job there are other difficulties too...!"

Thanks for you information that we have to apply for the extend the visa.! I really did not know before.

and I thank you
parker24
Champion Member too
for let me know the fact EI and Disability is allowed. It sound just! As anybody pay insurance is for secure oneself while one face difficulties. isn't it?

May be my former wife play a role in my sponsor.!
I have reason to suspect My former wife is playing roll here. She had traced my present wife's parents phone number, and set someone to threat them to kill their daughter 5 years before.
She openly challenge to me in front of my children that she is not going to let us live together.
After I apply for divorce She bought my lawyer and set up the case not to reach the Judge. with the help of women helping agents or centers.
She had contacted all my friends and try to compromise to support her by passing and informing my activates to her, most of my friends reject and informed me about her approach, but Two of them was helping her until last month by tracking my activate.
Her brothers broke my car "Nothing got steeled" and left a note on my wind screen. that "You will be down in my native language"during my visit time to France.
A unknown person called himself as social helper, try to intrude in my life by offering me a good job I reject in suspition, latter he was found to help her by fixing bed and visiting to her "My children told me"
The same person choke my current wife too when she was out for shopping he photograph her with his phone.

Yes I bring these thing to the attention of my lawyer But my lawyer advise me not to complain while you apply for divorce. latter I found my lawyer suppress all of this. She had paid my lawyer under table. Yes my lawyer twist lot of things and stretch the case to 5 years. The case never reach Judge. A facilitator Judge "women" handle it after hours "always 6 pm to 9pm" All woman team and women center agents threat me forcing me requesting me to sign the paper to release the custody of children that was ordered on 2004 by Judge Madam__after three years of study with experts, children lawyer, CAS agents, psychiatrist and Councillors suggestions. They found she is dangerous and mentally unstable. and her family is not cooperative and danger to the children well being.

recently she traced my workplace and accompany with my manger. " I Found them Both accompanying each other closely at McDonald where I use to go for lunch; I end up found another Job

she is sick of revenging me and her family is capable to do any thinks they want.

now I believe she may do any effort to trouble my sponsor. But I am not sure just believe.
the time will reveal it.

I felt and experienced the JUST will win at last "I meant just is the truth; not the man made law for their needs" but the time take.
Once I left the Canada "kicked out" in 1996 5 years I was away from children "not at my will". but when the time come they came to me and loved me more than ever, they know their mothers evil mind. "I promise on my family I never try to preach them or turn them against their mother. Even know it was me I comprise them to visit their mother and changed the judged order given on 2004.

Even I leave Canada I will visit every year to them. I do not beg or expect immigration or anyone to sympathy on me.
My only request is to preserve Families. If you make every decision based on economy, Today you can save little tomorrow you will loose lot, You will end up depressed community and psychopaths.
Love and family value can not be compensate with any of your other offers.
than you and I am done.
bay bay....
 

McDutch

Hero Member
Dec 20, 2011
340
19
Visa Office......
Vienna
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
13-06-2012
AOR Received.
26-09-2012
File Transfer...
11-08-2012
Med's Done....
REDONE: 22-01-2013
LANDED..........
26-04-2013
Boy, that escalated quickly
 

hardtowait

Star Member
Aug 1, 2012
87
8
Category........
Visa Office......
Singapore
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
May 14, 2012
AOR Received.
Never
File Transfer...
August 20, 2012
Med's Request
July 11, 2013
Med's Done....
July 17, 2013 re-medical
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
December 04, 2013
VISA ISSUED...
December 30, 2013
LANDED..........
February 08, 2014
nesan: "My only request is to preserve Families. If you make every decision based on economy, Today you can save little tomorrow you will loose lot, You will end up depressed community and psychopaths. Love and family value can not be compensate with any of your other offers."

nesan: "I suggest immigration to appoint their employee, who only success fully in family life. not one literally educated but not qualified to be a human being."


I was very much touched with those few words in the above! I think I have to agree with this person. I hope right persons read these sentences. Thanks Mr. nesan.
 

frenchie57

Star Member
May 7, 2012
159
6
Calgary
Visa Office......
Vegreville
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
16-11-2011
Med's Done....
10-11-2011
LANDED..........
22-11-2012
nesan said:
Your talk is just fancy and not reality.
Immigration has lot of time to waste. as long as the employers get paid is alright "Sorry not all but most"
but for an average family man, the time is critical. loosing time damage him and his depended severely, Time can not be buy later to loose now.
some time the adapting to the family need is seem like NEGATIVE thinking, but better than waste time Positively and be selfish.

My former wife is a big fat lire she got her PR followed by Nationality very easily because. because she know how to deal. "lie"
My another friend joined his wife after 6 years. After file case against immigration. Immigration request him to withdraw the case and issued PR.
How you can justify wasting other peoples time and detaching families?
If it is for individual try to immigrate to Canada then immigration may to take more time. But this is for the family.
Time being separate destroy the family this is a simple fact.

Any decision is wrong if it has no "goodwill" or "heart". But the people who decide is mostly never mind this, Indeed they enjoy their power."Not socially thinking"
I humbly suggest you to "Understand the person or situation rather than guessing on it or of him."
(The VIP members SCYLLA'S advise is use full
recommend that you order your GCMS notes to see what is going on with the application and what is created the hold up")
I know there are Other way around to solve this problem. But it Only work for Rich people.
"Some time One(D---l) curse someone to go to Heaven" the way I may have better life in Europe with guilty heart of leaving children behind.
I suggest immigration to appoint their employee, who only success fully in family life. not one literally educated but not qualified to be a human being.
Any way Thanks for the help to every one.

Immigration is tough. But never forget that it is tough for everybody. Waiting is long and being in an unstable situation is not pleasant for anybody. I do understand that you have kids in 2 countries and a problem with your ex-wife. I do feel for you. Unfortunately, I do know of people that have even much worse issues, yet they're treated the same as the others. We all know it from day one. We all end up thinking that things aren't fair, we all become paranoid because of the wait, the wording of the letters from CIC etc. I do find myself complaining about it a lot. However, complaining does not solve anything. Make sure you are as informed as you can, and act based on what you know. ALWAYS make sure you are informed (eg: welfare is not allowed). Many people stumbled throughout the process. Many people feel that the whole thing is unfair sometimes. Now remember that Canada is a great country. Canada has an economy and a lifestyle to keep up. Also, if you ever doubted it, the immigration process over here is much much better than many countries. Canada receives thousands of applications, some of which are from people trying to trick the system (fake marriages etc.). The government *has to* make sure you're not one of them, that you're in this country to work, not to abuse the system etc. Always remember that if they weren't doing this, Canada wouldn't be the country it is.
If I were you, here's what I would do:
- Stay informed
- Stay positive
- Look for solutions
- Do *not* try to make CIC agents feel sorry for you. This will not work.