Sponsor dependent child from outside of Canada

[astrodude]

Hi all,

My wife and I are both PRs and now living outside of Canada. My son is to be born in a few months. I want to sponsor him after his birth.

I've done some research that PRs have to be reside in Canada to make the application. To do so, I need to be separated from my family for several months which is not a good choice. Some also suggested me to apply a travel visa for my child but there is a big possibility that VISA office will deny it.

So, I talked to a licensed consultant/lawyer in Vancouver and was told that I was able to apply it when I am outside of Canada. And I was also instructed to start applying for becoming a sponsor first right away, even my baby is not born. I confirmed with him many times that according to CIC's terms, me living outside of Canada will definitely make me not eligible to be a sponsor, his answer was certain that he would make it work and he had done a few cases like mine (this I can be sure because he was first referred by a friend who successfully sponsored his child while residing outside Canada under this lawyer's assistance). He also guaranteed he would not use any fake paperwork, all he need to do is to convince CIC that I will reside in Canada when my child's PR is approved. He sounded quite confident.

My concern is：
1. Should I trust this guy? What do I loose if I hire him and my case was denied? Will this affect a future application when I will be reside in Canada to apply it again?
2. Is there any supporting cases that a person sponsor his dependent child while physically outside of Canada?
3. If I choose to apply for a TRV for my child, should I include a statement that I will sponsor him after entering Canada. Will this help to get a TRV?

Thanks a lot for your attention.

Jeff

 

[canuck78]

This consultant or lawyer either has no idea about what he is talking about or is forging documentation or submitting false documentation. Don't trust this guy. You are correct that as a PR one parent must be in Canada to sponsor a child. It is hit or miss when it comes to applying for a TRV or TRP for a child. Some have had better success after one parent returns to Canada files for PR for the child and then attempts to file for a TRV. You will also have to plan to cover routine health costs and buy health insurance for emergencies. In general your whole family may need to wait up to 3 months to receive health insurance depending on where you moved so should purchase some health coverage for emergencies.

 

[astrodude]

This consultant or lawyer either has no idea about what he is talking about or is forging documentation or submitting false documentation. Don't trust this guy. You are correct that as a PR one parent must be in Canada to sponsor a child. It is hit or miss when it comes to applying for a TRV or TRP for a child. Some have had better success after one parent returns to Canada files for PR for the child and then attempts to file for a TRV. You will also have to plan to cover routine health costs and buy health insurance for emergencies. In general your whole family may need to wait up to 3 months to receive health insurance depending on where you moved so should purchase some health coverage for emergencies.

thanks for your reply.

I have the same doubt, but part of me is thinking why would he risk his license and tell the lie. His fee is 850 CAD for the whole appliaction process which is a fare amount.

I’m thinking if I take him as my consultant, and find out he is making faulse document, I can refuse to submit those files. And if he is doing things within the law, what do I loose? Will it get more difficult to submit a new sponsor application if my first application is denied?

 

[YVR123]

thanks for your reply.

I have the same doubt, but part of me is thinking why would he risk his license and tell the lie. His fee is 850 CAD for the whole appliaction process which is a fare amount.

I’m thinking if I take him as my consultant, and find out he is making faulse document, I can refuse to submit those files. And if he is doing things within the law, what do I loose? Will it get more difficult to submit a new sponsor application if my first application is denied?

Is that consultant a licensed consultant with ICCRC?

A Canadian immigration consultant must be licensed and regulated by ICCRC. Known as a Regulated Canadian Immigration Consultant (RCIC), an immigration consultant provides assistance to people who seek to immigrate to Canada for the purposes of study, work, travel or permanent relocation.

It's really clear that PR needs to reside in Canada to sponsor his/her family. You should report him.

My question to you is that if you don't plan to move back to Canada, why do you want PR status for your kid?
May be wait till you are ready to move back and try to get TRV for your kid and go from there.

 

[canuck78]

Why would you spend the money knowing he has already misled you? You can save the $850 and just apply yourself. You are the one who gets punished if your lawyer/consultant sends in false information.

 

[astrodude]

Is that consultant a licensed consultant with ICCRC?

A Canadian immigration consultant must be licensed and regulated by ICCRC. Known as a Regulated Canadian Immigration Consultant (RCIC), an immigration consultant provides assistance to people who seek to immigrate to Canada for the purposes of study, work, travel or permanent relocation.

It's really clear that PR needs to reside in Canada to sponsor his/her family. You should report him.

My question to you is that if you don't plan to move back to Canada, why do you want PR status for your kid?
May be wait till you are ready to move back and try to get TRV for your kid and go from there.

Yes, he is licensed and is the owner of an Immigration company.

We are moving back to Canada when kid is 6 months old. The reason I want to apply for his PR is that I don’t want to be apart from him to apply while I am reside in Canada, and getting a TRV for him, according to many threads, is quite tricky and not easy in most cases. And if TRV is denied, a TRP will be a more complicated scenario.

 

[canuck78]

If you have this incorrect advice in writing you should report him.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigration-citizenship-representative/file-complaint-against-representative.html

You are the only person that will get punished in the long run if the false claims are picked up.

 

[astrodude]

Why would you spend the money knowing he has already misled you? You can save the $850 and just apply yourself. You are the one who gets punished if your lawyer/consultant sends in false information.

the reason why I raised this thread was that I was afraid I did not know all the applying rules for the family class sponsor and there might be workaround. now it seems clear that he had misled me.

 

[scylla]

the reason why I raised this thread was that I was afraid I did not know all the applying rules for the family class sponsor and there might be workaround. now it seems clear that he had misled me.

He has either completely mislead you on purpose or is incompetent.

The rules are black and white and don't allow you to sponsor while you are outside of Canada. The only way someone could try to get around this is by lying in their application and committing misrepresentation about their location.

 

[astrodude]

He has either completely mislead you on purpose or is incompetent.

The rules are black and white and don't allow you to sponsor while you are outside of Canada. The only way someone could try to get around this is by lying in their application and committing misrepresentation about their location.

thanks. I think I will stay away from this guy.

 

[AM_2022]

Hi all,

My wife and I are both PRs and now living outside of Canada. My son is to be born in a few months. I want to sponsor him after his birth.

I've done some research that PRs have to be reside in Canada to make the application. To do so, I need to be separated from my family for several months which is not a good choice. Some also suggested me to apply a travel visa for my child but there is a big possibility that VISA office will deny it.

So, I talked to a licensed consultant/lawyer in Vancouver and was told that I was able to apply it when I am outside of Canada. And I was also instructed to start applying for becoming a sponsor first right away, even my baby is not born. I confirmed with him many times that according to CIC's terms, me living outside of Canada will definitely make me not eligible to be a sponsor, his answer was certain that he would make it work and he had done a few cases like mine (this I can be sure because he was first referred by a friend who successfully sponsored his child while residing outside Canada under this lawyer's assistance). He also guaranteed he would not use any fake paperwork, all he need to do is to convince CIC that I will reside in Canada when my child's PR is approved. He sounded quite confident.

My concern is：
1. Should I trust this guy? What do I loose if I hire him and my case was denied? Will this affect a future application when I will be reside in Canada to apply it again?
2. Is there any supporting cases that a person sponsor his dependent child while physically outside of Canada?
3. If I choose to apply for a TRV for my child, should I include a statement that I will sponsor him after entering Canada. Will this help to get a TRV?

Thanks a lot for your attention.

Jeff

Hi Jeff - What steps you took in your case. Can you please provide the process. Even I am in the same boat