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SOFT LANDING- NEED GUIDANCE ON PR CARD

Bs65

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@Meylis Correct, you can leave before you receive the cards. And yes, if you do not have the card on re-entry, you’ll have problems. In fact, you won’t even board the flight to leave your country of origin as it’s required since you’ll have no visa.

You have to figure out a way of having the cards sent to you to ensure your re-entry into Canada. If the address you provide is a friend’s or a relative, they should be able to send them to you. If it’s a UPS store, they should be able to forward all your mail to which ever address you give them.

All the best.
All is not lost though of course given Meylis can apply for PRTDs from outside Canada to come back if they are unable to organise the PR cards being mailed by a friend or UPS.
 
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Meylis

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@next2015, thank you for the explanation.

@Meylis Correct, you can leave before you receive the cards. And yes, if you do not have the card on re-entry, you’ll have problems. In fact, you won’t even board the flight to leave your country of origin as it’s required since you’ll have no visa.

You have to figure out a way of having the cards sent to you to ensure your re-entry into Canada. If the address you provide is a friend’s or a relative, they should be able to send them to you. If it’s a UPS store, they should be able to forward all your mail to which ever address you give them.

All the best.
 

Meylis

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All is not lost though of course given Meylis can apply for PRTDs from outside Canada to come back if they are unable to organise the PR cards being mailed by a friend or UPS.
Yes, I read about PRTDs, but that would be a little hard for me to do as I will have to fly to another country to get it. We don't have Canadian consulate/embassy in my country. I have friends in Canada, guess they could just send the PR card to me.

Thank you @Bs65 for the answer.
 

next2015

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Nov 18, 2014
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awesome!!!

when did you do soft landing?

If i may ask how many days did you spent in Canada and did you open bank account as well?
I was in Canada for 4 months, for my soft landing. Could have been shorter but was hoping to leave with my kid's card, until I gave up.
No, I didn't open bank account at that time, but I was able to access my funds through VISA ready ATMs.
 

next2015

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Hello,

I was looking for similar information - were you able to apply for UPS mailbox even from outside canada? i mean to say can i have this signed up before landing to Canada and give this address on the port of entry?
I tried to do that before I landed. I contacted 3 stores but none of them was willing to do it, so I waited until after I landed. You could try... May be you'll find that one store that can sign you up remotely. Just call them, their contacts are indicated on the UPS website.
 
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projay

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Hey,

I did the same.
Short landing: apr 2016
Left after apply for pr card : apr 2016

Back to tornto : aug 2017

I have question : do we need to file income tax during the period between short landing and the date we back for permant stay ?

According to official web site, our case have not establish significant ties to canada before permanent living , so i assume those income made from non canada source is no need to file income tax in canada right ?
 

next2015

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You don’t need to file taxes for income earner outside Canada, this year. In the future, when you have established residential ties, you will have to.

Also, if you do get to earn some income, in Canada, this year; be sure to file.

All the best
 

Das86

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May 3, 2017
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Piggybacking off this thread if that's okay.

I have a question about applying for my first PR card when I first land. On the IMM5445 form they ask for your Canadian residential address, however, I don't have one as I would be entering Canada for the first time. I have family in Montreal so is it okay to use their address as my residential address even though I received PR through the FSW program? Would that create any problems in the future?

I ask only because it is my understanding that I would not be able to settle in Quebec after landing in Toronto but placing a QC address as my residential address implies that I would be settling there. Is this a valid set of assumptions?
 

sunny7

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Dec 20, 2015
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Hello folks!
Firstly, I feel quite relived by the above answers. Thank you.

My Problem:
I landed on 4th Oct 2017. This is a soft landing. I thought that as it takes around 2 months to receive the card so I shall collect my card and then return. But some said the delivery of a PR card could sometimes take more than 4 months. In short I concluded that the application processing time of 61 days on the website is not concrete. So I decided to leave as I did not wish to exhaust my funds. But a few friends suggested that it could be a bad idea. They said that sometimes if the IRCC faces some issue with your application then they might call you in person. As I would not be in Canada at that time I shall not be able to re enter without a PR card. As a result I would lose out on my opportunity to become a PR. Also for PRTD it is totally at the visa officers discretion to give it to you. He may also deny it and so we cannot count on that option completely.
Though I feel better that I can leave but I am not very sure. What do you guys suggest? Thank you.
 

cool_eagle

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Totally wrong suggestions by friends..........as you exit airport, you become PR.......PR card is just travel document, if it is lost, or not delivered by you by friends/relatives, you can apply for PRTD.............and after seeing your documents that you are a valid PR, there are no issues for release of PRTD document.

it is not illegal to post PR outside of canada. it is not illegal to give friends/relatives address to collect PR. you can always go outside due to any emergency at any time. for remaining PR, you have to spend 2 years out of every 5 years in canada

Hello folks!
Firstly, I feel quite relived by the above answers. Thank you.

My Problem:
I landed on 4th Oct 2017. This is a soft landing. I thought that as it takes around 2 months to receive the card so I shall collect my card and then return. But some said the delivery of a PR card could sometimes take more than 4 months. In short I concluded that the application processing time of 61 days on the website is not concrete. So I decided to leave as I did not wish to exhaust my funds. But a few friends suggested that it could be a bad idea. They said that sometimes if the IRCC faces some issue with your application then they might call you in person. As I would not be in Canada at that time I shall not be able to re enter without a PR card. As a result I would lose out on my opportunity to become a PR. Also for PRTD it is totally at the visa officers discretion to give it to you. He may also deny it and so we cannot count on that option completely.
Though I feel better that I can leave but I am not very sure. What do you guys suggest? Thank you.[/
Hello folks!
Firstly, I feel quite relived by the above answers. Thank you.

.
 

sunny7

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Dec 20, 2015
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Totally wrong suggestions by friends..........as you exit airport, you become PR.......PR card is just travel document, if it is lost, or not delivered by you by friends/relatives, you can apply for PRTD.............and after seeing your documents that you are a valid PR, there are no issues for release of PRTD document.

it is not illegal to post PR outside of canada. it is not illegal to give friends/relatives address to collect PR. you can always go outside due to any emergency at any time. for remaining PR, you have to spend 2 years out of every 5 years in canada
Tx for the reply mate.

But you become a PR only after you get your PR card at least once the first time, right?
Say for e.g I landed and exited Canada after one week. The CIC requests for a photo but I'm not able to submit it. In that case my PR card will not be processed and I shall not be able to return, right? So till the the first time the PR card is generated we still have a bit of risk of not getting the PR card and hence losing the PR status.
Above is just my guess and I may be wrong. But mate I appreciate your reply. I'm anyway returning after 60 days (instead of 30 days) with or without a PR card in my hand.
 

next2015

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Tx for the reply mate.

But you become a PR only after you get your PR card at least once the first time, right?
Say for e.g I landed and exited Canada after one week. The CIC requests for a photo but I'm not able to submit it. In that case my PR card will not be processed and I shall not be able to return, right? So till the the first time the PR card is generated we still have a bit of risk of not getting the PR card and hence losing the PR status.
Above is just my guess and I may be wrong. But mate I appreciate your reply. I'm anyway returning after 60 days (instead of 30 days) with or without a PR card in my hand.
You become a PR when you complete the landing stage of the process. The card is just for purposes of confirming your status to authorities/employers and for travel, particularly entry into Canada.

So, if you complete your landing and leave after a week, you’re a PR. However, you won’t be able to board a flight to Canada since you have no and can’t get a visa. You need that card or a PRTD. Otherwise, you won’t even leave the terminal in your home country.
 

sunny7

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Dec 20, 2015
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You become a PR when you complete the landing stage of the process. The card is just for purposes of confirming your status to authorities/employers and for travel, particularly entry into Canada.

So, if you complete your landing and leave after a week, you’re a PR. However, you won’t be able to board a flight to Canada since you have no and can’t get a visa. You need that card or a PRTD. Otherwise, you won’t even leave the terminal in your home country.
And since the landing procedure is complete getting a PRTD shouldn't be a hurdle, right?

In the below link if you read, it mentions that it is not a guarantee that you will get a PRTD, and that got me worried.

https://settlement.org/ontario/immigration-citizenship/landing-and-leaving/leaving-canada/i-need-to-leave-canada-but-do-not-have-my-pr-card-yet-what-should-i-do/

Also, after landing and exiting do we really need to be present in person for any procedure or formality. I know of an issue and that is that they request for photographs, which I think we can send through courier. Another one I've heard of is that if they are not able to deliver the PR card at the mailing address then they have to do a hand to hand delivery in which you have to be present in person, right?
 

next2015

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The link is right. Your PR status does not guarantee approval of your PRTD application.

On whether you should be present or not for any procedures, I believe it is ideal after all.
 

sunny7

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Dec 20, 2015
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The link is right. Your PR status does not guarantee approval of your PRTD application.

On whether you should be present or not for any procedures, I believe it is ideal after all.
I think I am taking a little risk by returning before receiving the PR card. But sadly I have no options.