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VictorPapa

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Jan 6, 2014
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About Settlement Funds thing for 250 without Job Offer category this is the clear story:

In November 2013, SINP announced new without job offer category for 250 applicants. They released "Application Guide for the International Skilled Workers Category.pdf" document related to that new category on 02/12/2013 (If you downloaded that document at the time of apply, you have it already in your computers) and exactly in first paragraph of page 12 of that document you can read this:

"In your application you are required to submit detailed documentation to verify three consecutive months of stable funds, including a detailed history of funds. These funds must remain stable throughout the entire immigration process. "

all of 250 applicants applied in SINP on 2 & 3 January 2014 based on that document.

That paragraph exactly means: you must have 3 months of stable funds (Bank statement balance) in your application and it means if SINP ask you to show your bank statement every time then you have to show and you must have 3 months of stable funds from the beginning of your application. For example if SINP ask you to provide bank statement on July 2014 then based on that paragraph you can update your application with new bank statement showing you have 3 months stable funds from 01/01/2014 to 01/07/2014 and with that bank statement you proved that you had three consecutive months of stable funds in your application and it remained stable throughout the entire immigration process!

BUT

In 26 May 2014, SINP released an updated "App Guide Skilled Workers Reviewed May 26-.pdf" document (Already exist on SINP website) and in the 4th paragraph of the page 12 you can read:

"In your application you are required to submit detailed documentation to verify three consecutive months of stable funds prior to application to the SINP, including a detailed history of funds. These funds must meet requirements throughout the entire immigration process."

They exactly mentioned in that paragraph, you must have stable funds from 01/10/2013 to your nomination date! With this update, SINP shifted the stable funds period to 3 months prior the apply date and in law they can't assess applications who already applied with the old version of instruction (Dated 02/12/2013) with the new updated document released on newer date (26/05/2014).


This was the whole story of Settlement funds and maybe for applicants like James, it is useful to know that fact to defeat themselves from unfair SINP decision!

As we know an immigration program is a planning for everybody's life and it is not a lottery! SINP announced a new immigration category on November 2013 then how can they ask you to show settlement funds from October 2013 (before their new program)?! I mean if they announced a new program on November and release a guide for that on December then everybody who want to apply in the new immigration system must do a planning for it and he/she can collect the require money (invested elsewhere) for the immigration and keep it stable for the whole immigration period. They logically can't tell you that your money is not yours because when you have already 10 months whole money in your account then it shows it is yours and you can support yourself in Canada!
 

solomonwise

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Jun 10, 2013
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VictorPapa said:
About Settlement Funds thing for 250 without Job Offer category this is the clear story:

In November 2013, SINP announced new without job offer category for 250 applicants. They released "Application Guide for the International Skilled Workers Category.pdf" document related to that new category on 02/12/2013 (If you downloaded that document at the time of apply, you have it already in your computers) and exactly in first paragraph of page 12 of that document you can read this:

"In your application you are required to submit detailed documentation to verify three consecutive months of stable funds, including a detailed history of funds. These funds must remain stable throughout the entire immigration process. "



all of 250 applicants applied in SINP on 2 & 3 January 2014 based on that document.

That paragraph exactly means: you must have 3 months of stable funds (Bank statement balance) in your application and it means if SINP ask you to show your bank statement every time then you have to show and you must have 3 months of stable funds from the beginning of your application. For example if SINP ask you to provide bank statement on July 2014 then based on that paragraph you can update your application with new bank statement showing you have 3 months stable funds from 01/01/2014 to 01/07/2014 and with that bank statement you proved that you had three consecutive months of stable funds in your application and it remained stable throughout the entire immigration process!

BUT

In 26 May 2014, SINP released an updated "App Guide Skilled Workers Reviewed May 26-.pdf" document (Already exist on SINP website) and in the 4th paragraph of the page 12 you can read:

"In your application you are required to submit detailed documentation to verify three consecutive months of stable funds prior to application to the SINP, including a detailed history of funds. These funds must meet requirements throughout the entire immigration process."

They exactly mentioned in that paragraph, you must have stable funds from 01/10/2013 to your nomination date! With this update, SINP shifted the stable funds period to 3 months prior the apply date and in law they can't assess applications who already applied with the old version of instruction (Dated 02/12/2013) with the new updated document released on newer date (26/05/2014).


This was the whole story of Settlement funds and maybe for applicants like James, it is useful to know that fact to defeat themselves from unfair SINP decision!

As we know an immigration program is a planning for everybody's life and it is not a lottery! SINP announced a new immigration category on November 2013 then how can they ask you to show settlement funds from October 2013 (before their new program)?! I mean if they announced a new program on November and release a guide for that on December then everybody who want to apply in the new immigration system must do a planning for it and he/she can collect the require money (invested elsewhere) for the immigration and keep it stable for the whole immigration period. They logically can't tell you that your money is not yours because when you have already 10 months whole money in your account then it shows it is yours and you can support yourself in Canada!
I really don't get the drift here!

This is a rare privilege and not a right!SINP makes the rule and they can make clarification when needed.Remember the program is evolving and it is not unexpected to continue to see positive changes.

I see no difference from what you quoted as stated in the guidelines released in November 2013 and May 2014. The bottom line is be financial stable enough to take care of yourself for the first few months when you arrive in Canada.Immigration is a thorny issue the world over and Canada is one of the most generous yet thorough of all.If you doubt me,try Australia and you can compare the meager application fee of CAD$550 of Canada to Australia's AUD$3,060.You can't have an application fee of AUD$3,060 and not take of yourself or so it seems,at least your ability to pay this fee is an indicator of your financial strength.

Even if there's a lump sum in your account provide evidence that this fund is not borrowed and you won't be a liability instead of an economic contributor with mutual benefits.

Canada wants SKILLED migrants not anything less.

It is not unexpected therefore that they will continue to seek ways of making sure that genuine people are given the chance always.

While I know how it feels for James to be turned down at this stage,we must understand that beyond the emotional outburst,SINP has a duty to abide by the rules set aside by CIC
 

lamarjames42

Newbie
Nov 4, 2014
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VictorPapa said:
About Settlement Funds thing for 250 without Job Offer category this is the clear story:

In November 2013, SINP announced new without job offer category for 250 applicants. They released "Application Guide for the International Skilled Workers Category.pdf" document related to that new category on 02/12/2013 (If you downloaded that document at the time of apply, you have it already in your computers) and exactly in first paragraph of page 12 of that document you can read this:

"In your application you are required to submit detailed documentation to verify three consecutive months of stable funds, including a detailed history of funds. These funds must remain stable throughout the entire immigration process. "

all of 250 applicants applied in SINP on 2 & 3 January 2014 based on that document.

That paragraph exactly means: you must have 3 months of stable funds (Bank statement balance) in your application and it means if SINP ask you to show your bank statement every time then you have to show and you must have 3 months of stable funds from the beginning of your application. For example if SINP ask you to provide bank statement on July 2014 then based on that paragraph you can update your application with new bank statement showing you have 3 months stable funds from 01/01/2014 to 01/07/2014 and with that bank statement you proved that you had three consecutive months of stable funds in your application and it remained stable throughout the entire immigration process!

BUT

In 26 May 2014, SINP released an updated "App Guide Skilled Workers Reviewed May 26-.pdf" document (Already exist on SINP website) and in the 4th paragraph of the page 12 you can read:

"In your application you are required to submit detailed documentation to verify three consecutive months of stable funds prior to application to the SINP, including a detailed history of funds. These funds must meet requirements throughout the entire immigration process."

They exactly mentioned in that paragraph, you must have stable funds from 01/10/2013 to your nomination date! With this update, SINP shifted the stable funds period to 3 months prior the apply date and in law they can't assess applications who already applied with the old version of instruction (Dated 02/12/2013) with the new updated document released on newer date (26/05/2014).


This was the whole story of Settlement funds and maybe for applicants like James, it is useful to know that fact to defeat themselves from unfair SINP decision!

As we know an immigration program is a planning for everybody's life and it is not a lottery! SINP announced a new immigration category on November 2013 then how can they ask you to show settlement funds from October 2013 (before their new program)?! I mean if they announced a new program on November and release a guide for that on December then everybody who want to apply in the new immigration system must do a planning for it and he/she can collect the require money (invested elsewhere) for the immigration and keep it stable for the whole immigration period. They logically can't tell you that your money is not yours because when you have already 10 months whole money in your account then it shows it is yours and you can support yourself in Canada!
then its means i am rejected from SINP 2014 program is there way to resolve this issue ?
 

FSWCIO

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Jan 30, 2012
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As far my understanding goes Sinp need 3 months bank statement and in that 3 months your balance isn't gone under $11000 in any circumstances :)
 

VictorPapa

Champion Member
Jan 6, 2014
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solomonwise said:
I really don't get the drift here!

This is a rare privilege and not a right!SINP makes the rule and they can make clarification when needed.Remember the program is evolving and it is not unexpected to continue to we positive changes.

I see no difference from what you quoted as stated in the guidelines released in November 2013 and May 2014. The bottom line is be financial stable enough to take care of yourself for the first few months when you arrive in Canada.Immigration is a thorny issue the world over and Canada is one of the most generous yet thorough of all.If you doubt me,try Australia and you can compare the meager application fee of CAD$550 of Canada to AUD$3,060.

Even if there's a lump sum in your account provide evidence that this fund is not borrowed and you won't be a liability instead of an economic contributor with mutual benefits.

Canada wants SKILLED migrants not anything less.

It is not unexpected therefore that they will continue to seek ways of making sure that genuine people are given the chance always.
But my friend, when you apply in an immigration program, after that it is your right to immigrate with that program while you are eligible and the owner of that program can't change the rules. ;)
It is like we are 250 applicants applied in SINP program without Job Offer and now after 11 months, over 150 of 250 are still waiting for our nominations. Could SINP change the rule and tell us: It is enough and we decided to nominate only 100 of 250?!
I think It is not a rare privilege at the moment and I think it is our right to get our nominations ;)
I told those things in my previous post for those applicants who rejected (will be rejected in future!) because of Settlement funds related to OCT 2013 to DEC 2013. I think they should know the details and maybe it could helps them to talk to SINP and could get their nominations. ;)
 

VictorPapa

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Jan 6, 2014
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lamarjames42 said:
then its means i am rejected from SINP 2014 program is there way to resolve this issue ?
You didn't mention, Did they ask you for Settlement funds update on June,July,August? And If yes, did you send them your updated bank statement with stable account balance of $11.000 from 14 DEC 2013 till the date you received your bank statement?
 

VictorPapa

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harisadu said:
now i am afraid. I didnt submit any settlement fund documents at the time of application.

They asked for other documents but not settlement fund....
Because you applied with Job Offer! They don't need Settlement funds when you have job offer. ;)
 

lamarjames42

Newbie
Nov 4, 2014
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VictorPapa said:
You didn't mention, Did they ask you for Settlement funds update on June,July,August? And If yes, did you send them your updated bank statement with stable account balance of $11.000 from 14 DEC 2013 till the date you received your bank statement?
yes in the month of August they request me to for updated bank statement I send them updated bank statement but in that statement I deposit $11,000 CAD balance on the last day of Bank statement, I submit them statement from 1 April to 1 August and from 1 April to 15 July my bank balance is $1,000 and then i deposit $11,000 CAD which make my bank statement $12,000 CAD....
 

VictorPapa

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lamarjames42 said:
yes in the month of August they request me to for updated bank statement I send them updated bank statement but in that statement I deposit $11,000 CAD balance on the last day of Bank statement, I submit them statement from 1 April to 1 August and from 1 April to 15 July my bank balance is $1,000 and then i deposit $11,000 CAD which make my bank statement $12,000 CAD....
In this way you didn't have stable funds for at least 3 months in your account. You must wait for another immigration program to be opened in the next year or you can ask your brother to find a job offer for you and then you can go to Saskatchewan with new application.
 

sujwal

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VictorPapa said:
In this way you didn't have stable funds for at least 3 months in your account. You must wait for another immigration program to be opened in the next year or you can ask your brother to find a job offer for you and then you can go to Saskatchewan with new application.
Yes you are right.
Anyway what's going on with your nomination? Any update lately?
My file is now in London and in Process (but dont know how long will it take).
 

VictorPapa

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sujwal said:
Yes you are right.
Anyway what's going on with your nomination? Any update lately?
My file is now in London and in Process (but dont know how long will it take).
No my friend, There isn't any news for us. We are still waiting. I know this waiting will finish within 56 days and it is a hope at all! ;)
 

FSWCIO

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Jan 30, 2012
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VictorPapa said:
No my friend, There isn't any news for us. We are still waiting. I know this waiting will finish within 56 days and it is a hope at all! ;)
Hi papa, did you apply with job offer? Do they process app faster for those got job offer? Is there such rules ? Thanks
 

VictorPapa

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FSWCIO said:
Hi papa, did you apply with job offer? Do they process app faster for those got job offer? Is there such rules ? Thanks
I applied without Job offer. It seems they process files with job offer faster than without job offer.
 

rajesh96

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Oct 25, 2014
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How do they decide the funds as stable when it is a savings account ? DO they calculate average daily balance ?
 

FSWCIO

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Jan 30, 2012
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VictorPapa said:
I applied without Job offer. It seems they process files with job offer faster than without job offer.
That's cool. When do sinp start their without job offer scheme? What doc do I need to apply? Thanks