Should I wait or should I go?

[anon123]

If I am offered 50K per year more to move to a country just as nice as Canada and do the same job as I do in Canada, should I go or should I wait for 2+ more years in Canada for a chance to get citizenship and move to a county nicer than Canada and make 50K+ more per year? Given I would move with a Canadian citizen, thus keep my PR in case things go south.

 

[us2yow]

Nothiing comes free and there is a price to everything. Every one of us on here have grappled with similar questions at some point. I would say look at the big picture (as much as you are thinking about - 50 K less but then there is no end if you start doing that kind of analysis).

Also, it seems like you are not from a visa waiver country (I could be wrong). And if your passport is not from a VW country then having Canadian citizenship is that much more of a safeguard and you can always come back - good to have options in an increasingly changing world.

My 2 cents !

 

[era1521]

If I am offered 50K per year more to move to a country just as nice as Canada and do the same job as I do in Canada, should I go or should I wait for 2+ more years in Canada for a chance to get citizenship and move to a county nicer than Canada and make 50K+ more per year? Given I would move with a Canadian citizen, thus keep my PR in case things go south.

If is same job you do in Canada, how much you make here in Canada? What is this country "just as nice as Canada"? I'd love to know.

In the end the question you ask is "Should I wait citizenship to go, or should I go?"

 

[desigirltoronto84]

If I am offered 50K per year more to move to a country just as nice as Canada and do the same job as I do in Canada, should I go or should I wait for 2+ more years in Canada for a chance to get citizenship and move to a county nicer than Canada and make 50K+ more per year? Given I would move with a Canadian citizen, thus keep my PR in case things go south.

Please don't think I am judging you when I say this - but I have to say that I am surprised you are asking for a critical life impacting advise from complete strangers. To be quite honest, none of us knows what your exact situation is. If money, better job and (seemingly) better country than Canada are the things that you want in your life then you shouldn't have to ask. You already have your answer. BUT if you have other variables such as - family, friends, health care (and I can think of so many other variables) then you need to think about it yourself. Nobody can give you a sound advise unless we know the complete picture. It's really your decision to make.

 

[anon123]

If is same job you do in Canada, how much you make here in Canada? What is this country "just as nice as Canada"? I'd love to know.

In the end the question you ask is "Should I wait citizenship to go, or should I go?"

The most I can ever make in Canada is 80K. That's if I try really hard, I don't currently make that much. That country "just as nice as Canada" is Switzerland where I can work and the average salary for my job is 120K CAD per year. The real question is should I stay 2 more years at least, lose the opportunity to make 100K CAD, for the hope that I will get a citizenship and move to US where I can make 120K/year? Given that with the new law Canadians clearly don't appreciate this kind of citizens, and insist on intent to reside.

 

[mimi23]

The most I can ever make in Canada is 80K. That's if I try really hard, I don't currently make that much. That country "just as nice as Canada" is Switzerland where I can work and the average salary for my job is 120K CAD per year. The real question is should I stay 2 more years at least, lose the opportunity to make 100K CAD, for the hope that I will get a citizenship and move to US where I can make 120K/year? Given that with the new law Canadians clearly don't appreciate this kind of citizens, and insist on intent to reside.

remember living cost in Switzerland is high unless if company you will be working for pays everything ,but if you will be making 120k a year in switzerland thats not a lot , have you ever lived in switzerland before? go there and see for urself based on my personal experience 120k not a lot unless is after taxes and if ur company will pay all ur expenses but if not do ur research ,

 

[bongeorgeo]

Just want to let you know that money alone should not be your motivator. The life is short and as you see , every place has its pros and cons . choose place that you will be HAPPY in it , happiness is number one , happiness includes ability to enjoy your life , freedom , meeting with your soulmate . don't let 20 grand difference makes you move for a doom place .

 

[arambi]

remember living cost in Switzerland is high unless if company you will be working for pays everything ,but if you will be making 120k a year in switzerland thats not a lot , have you ever lived in switzerland before? go there and see for urself based on my personal experience 120k not a lot unless is after taxes and if ur company will pay all ur expenses but if not do ur research ,

Agree. Net difference will be less than half the gross difference you see now

 

[era1521]

The most I can ever make in Canada is 80K. That's if I try really hard, I don't currently make that much. That country "just as nice as Canada" is Switzerland where I can work and the average salary for my job is 120K CAD per year. The real question is should I stay 2 more years at least, lose the opportunity to make 100K CAD, for the hope that I will get a citizenship and move to US where I can make 120K/year? Given that with the new law Canadians clearly don't appreciate this kind of citizens, and insist on intent to reside.

Good luck with Switzerland; like other say you'll not end up with much saving, so in the end you'll just spend in style:

Consumer Prices in Canada are 39.61% lower than in Switzerland
Consumer Prices Including Rent in Canada are 42.49% lower than in Switzerland
Rent Prices in Canada are 49.01% lower than in Switzerland
Restaurant Prices in Canada are 47.07% lower than in Switzerland
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Switzerland&country2=Canada

Groceries Prices in Canada are 33.57% lower than in Switzerland

 

[rmust]

The reason the same job you are doing in Canada pays $50k more in Switzerland is obviously due to the much higher cost of loving in Switzerland.
And what exactly do you mean by "nice" when you say "move to a country just as nice as Canada". Do you mean nature?
I personally think you will be better off in getting Canadian Citizenship before you consider such moves which can have a long term impact in you life.

 

[samreentariq]

Hey anon123,

I actually have to reiterate desigirltoronto84's comments here. To be honest this is an important impacting decision if you are looking for inputs from people in similar situation than maybe it is fine but the final decision has to be made by you, it will be better if you first start your own research and do some comparisons given how long you have before you give the company an answer, talk to family and close friends first ideally and then with that knowledge on hand if you still have trouble you could potentially then read replies in this thread. At least that is how I would approach it if I was in your shoes.

 

[anon123]

Thanks everybody for your input. I wanted to get unbiased opinion. My friends and relatives are all biased one way or another. I did my research and found rents are higher, almost twice as high, but income tax (with all deductions included) is 10% lower. Food is also a bit pricier, but not by much.
I find statements like:

The reason the same job you are doing in Canada pays $50k more in Switzerland is obviously due to the much higher cost of loving in Switzerland.

very naive. If that was the case I would have stayed in my home country.

 

[era1521]

Thanks everybody for your input. I wanted to get unbiased opinion. My friends and relatives are all biased one way or another. I did my research and found rents are higher, almost twice as high, but income tax (with all deductions included) is 10% lower. Food is also a bit pricier, but not by much.
I find statements like:very naive. If that was the case I would have stayed in my home country.

If you, even by remote, have in mind settling down in Switzerland, you may want to think again.
As permanent resident of Switzerland you can apply for citizenship after 19 years. To be granted the citizenship you have to be approved by all cantons and pass a language exam in all three official languages - french, german and italian.

Let me know if want to know details of becoming permanent resident.
Just a hint; even by marriage still have to complete those 19 years.

 

[dpenabill]

The most I can ever make in Canada is 80K. That's if I try really hard, I don't currently make that much. That country "just as nice as Canada" is Switzerland where I can work and the average salary for my job is 120K CAD per year. The real question is should I stay 2 more years at least, lose the opportunity to make 100K CAD, for the hope that I will get a citizenship and move to US where I can make 120K/year? Given that with the new law Canadians clearly don't appreciate this kind of citizens, and insist on intent to reside.

Given the changes to the Citizenship Act taking effect this year, and given the plan to go to U.S. when you obtain Canadian citizenship, if you stay to obtain Canadian citizenship you will not qualify for Canadian citizenship anyway (unless you commit fraud, as in deliberately conceal your plans from CIC -- it is never a good idea to commit a serious crime or engage in fraud -- and for sure, the number of Canadians who do not appreciate those who will commit fraud to obtain Canadian citizenship are probably a sizable majority, so probably not a good idea, either, to share you plan much if you choose to go the route of staying so you can eventually work in the U.S.).

 

[rmust]

Thanks everybody for your input. I wanted to get unbiased opinion. My friends and relatives are all biased one way or another. I did my research and found rents are higher, almost twice as high, but income tax (with all deductions included) is 10% lower. Food is also a bit pricier, but not by much.
I find statements like:very naive. If that was the case I would have stayed in my home country.

Typo above, I meant to say living (not loving)!

Sorry, but I think you are the naïve one here...do your homework.