Should I stay or should I go? Canada or not Canada?

[abdulpaola]

Hello,


I would like to tell my story and then get your opinion because right now I´m very confused about Canada. I love the country even though I have never been there. I just got a job offer as a caregiver and I have all my papers ready to come out with positive news from the canadian embassy so I will go to canada seaching for a residence and citizenship with time. Here is the thing, I´m working right now in a great great American company in my country that offers me all what I want in economic terms and without havign to do my major again or so. But canada I believe is a different style of life, more culture and yes I will go in the country with another work that it doesnt belong to me, also I will travel with this job and leave my husband in my country for I dont know how much time until I can get him a job offer or get my residence.

So, should I stay or should I go? ??? Is Canada a really good place like to leave everything behind and start all over again?? please help me!

Thanks

 

[as_vender]

My sincere suggestion is that if you have a good job in your home country and are happy with your salary and life, don't bother to go to Canada based on your hearing. Canada is not good for people who already have well-paid jobs and settled in their country. Life is short and enjoy your life wherever you are

 

[nthompson]

I agree with as_vendor if you and your husband both live in the same country and you both have good jobs and you don't have any family or friends in Canada then I would not recommend going their.

People only making this move if their husband/wife lives in Canada or they are finding it hard in their own country and want a change to give another country like Canada a try. But from hearing bout your situation you be leaving your husband behind and if worst comes to worst being apart for a long while without knowing when he can move over could ruin your relationship.

 

[Jalex23]

Hello,


I would like to tell my story and then get your opinion because right now I´m very confused about Canada. I love the country even though I have never been there. I just got a job offer as a caregiver and I have all my papers ready to come out with positive news from the canadian embassy so I will go to canada seaching for a residence and citizenship with time. Here is the thing, I´m working right now in a great great American company in my country that offers me all what I want in economic terms and without havign to do my major again or so. But canada I believe is a different style of life, more culture and yes I will go in the country with another work that it doesnt belong to me, also I will travel with this job and leave my husband in my country for I dont know how much time until I can get him a job offer or get my residence.

So, should I stay or should I go? ??? Is Canada a really good place like to leave everything behind and start all over again?? please help me!

Thanks

Why would you want to immigrate and also, why would you want to work as a care-giver when you are already in a good position in your country? From your post I can't even see a valid reason to want to immigrate at all.

Let me put you an example. I have known people with good salaries and jobs immigrating to other countries because they will find a job that will be more challenging even though it is not as well paid. Also people immigrate with a job that "offers me all what I want in economic terms" when the company wants them to, and of course they get full paperwork for their family. Other people immigrate because they will study in a field that is not available in their home country (for example I know an Eng that regardless of his great position, he immigrated to study a phd in nanotechnology).

From what you are telling you just want to immigrate for the sake of immigrating. Nothing wrong with that really, but I see no real sense with that move.

 

[Ramelak]

I would tend to agree with most other respondents - no, don't. Very few people make a lateral and lossless move - there is always a heavy price to pay, even if for the short term. If you have a great job back home, stick to it - many countries look temptingly good to settle, but what you face might be very different. So stay put where you are!

 

[mochkla]

Re: Should I stay or should I go?


Hello everyone,
I am a graduated master student in science. I landed in canada 3 years ago. I have been looking for a job for almost 4 months now but no luck until now, so I have been working in a small job in order to get my PR. I don t know if with PR my job research will be easier or not.
My problem is not only that but is is also about my husband. if I decide to finish my education (phd) after getting the PR, he will be forced to leave the country (north africa) in order to join me. He has a really good job in my country and I am feeling soo guilty about him leaving his job and his friends to come to canada where no job opportunities will be available for him. I know that he will not find a job in quebec and he will be forced to do the equivalence of diploma but even so I am still sure that no one will hire him in his field (he is a mechanical engineer) since he doesn t have a canadian diploma. I am stuck between my hsuband and my phd here and I have no idea what to do will I stay without a job even after my phd ? will my husband at least find a job once he comes to quebec? I am so disappointed at the work conditions here although I love canada and want to settle here but the work opportunities for immigrants are difficult especially without a citizenship .. please help me, your answers will help me clarify my ideas. thank u

 

[8Hannah8]

Re: Should I stay or should I go?

Hello everyone,
I am a graduated master student in science. I landed in canada 3 years ago. I have been looking for a job for almost 4 months now but no luck until now, so I have been working in a small job in order to get my PR. I don t know if with PR my job research will be easier or not.
My problem is not only that but is is also about my husband. if I decide to finish my education (phd) after getting the PR, he will be forced to leave the country (north africa) in order to join me. He has a really good job in my country and I am feeling soo guilty about him leaving his job and his friends to come to canada where no job opportunities will be available for him. I know that he will not find a job in quebec and he will be forced to do the equivalence of diploma but even so I am still sure that no one will hire him in his field (he is a mechanical engineer) since he doesn t have a canadian diploma. I am stuck between my hsuband and my phd here and I have no idea what to do will I stay without a job even after my phd ? will my husband at least find a job once he comes to quebec? I am so disappointed at the work conditions here although I love canada and want to settle here but the work opportunities for immigrants are difficult especially without a citizenship .. please help me, your answers will help me clarify my ideas. thank u

getting a job is difficult NOT because of citizenship, it is just difficult. I just want you to bear it in mind, because if you get PR and then citizenship, it would not change your job situation tremendously. Citizenship is not some kind of green pass to all the jobs available. Indeed, I noticed many employers tend to favour people from their ethnic/national background despite of their immigration status. Try to network within your country of origin community, many immigrants find job openings through those networks.
It generally takes from 6-8 months to find a decent job (despite of your status) and constant effort and networking.
So it all comes down to what you want in life and where you want to live. Just remember, it could be a possibility that you would have to live with a guilt of him leaving his job if he joins you in Canada.

 

[number411]

Re: Should I stay or should I go?

Indeed, I noticed many employers tend to favour people from their ethnic/national background despite of their immigration status.

Isn't this discriminatory?

 

[zardoz]

Re: Should I stay or should I go?

Isn't this discriminatory?

Yes, but unless you can a) prove it and b) take them to a formal tribunal/court, it's a fact of life. You just have to deal with it..

 

[nope]

Think of Canada as an investment -- a long-term investment. In the short term, it's cold. The housing sucks. The food is expensive. The cities have large ugly areas where you end up living in someone's basement. It's still cold. The sky is grey. Everything is expensive. You don't have any friends. You are just barely getting by. If you apply to one more job on the Internet you will go insane; but you don't want to step out of your house. It's April and it's still cold, grey, expensive, and you're still in someone's basement. Your friends back in your country are sitting in open-air restaurants drinking tea and eating food that is better than anything served in Canada, ever. You stop looking at their Facebook pages.

You find a better job, a better place to live. You have a kid. Your kid goes to a great public school for free. Their health care is free. When you didn't have a job the government helped you. You get something for your taxes. You join a neighbourhood league and get to know some people. You never feel unsafe, ever. When you go get a public service, the service is there and it's polite. When you go to the doctor you feel like you're part of a society that helps you. You're glad that your kid is growing up in a place where there are no real restrictions on what they do. You become a citizen and start to think if you are a Canadian or your old self. Could you stand to live where you came from? You miss your family and friends and the food and the weather; but the government, or the system, or something, now look intolerable. At this point, you are starting to assess your investment. Some people hold onto it, some people sell it. I've met immigrants who couldn't wait to get out in disgust. I've met immigrants who couldn't stand to go back where they came from.

The one thing I know for sure, is that no one should come unless they are prepared to try it for several years. Canada has NO immediate gratification. If you want that, stay put. If you want the possibility of delayed gratification, then come.

 

[mrbeachman]

Think of Canada as an investment -- a long-term investment. In the short term, it's cold. The housing sucks. The food is expensive. The cities have large ugly areas where you end up living in someone's basement. It's still cold. The sky is grey. Everything is expensive. You don't have any friends. You are just barely getting by. If you apply to one more job on the Internet you will go insane; but you don't want to step out of your house. It's April and it's still cold, grey, expensive, and you're still in someone's basement. Your friends back in your country are sitting in open-air restaurants drinking tea and eating food that is better than anything served in Canada, ever. You stop looking at their Facebook pages.

You find a better job, a better place to live. You have a kid. Your kid goes to a great public school for free. Their health care is free. When you didn't have a job the government helped you. You get something for your taxes. You join a neighbourhood league and get to know some people. You never feel unsafe, ever. When you go get a public service, the service is there and it's polite. When you go to the doctor you feel like you're part of a society that helps you. You're glad that your kid is growing up in a place where there are no real restrictions on what they do. You become a citizen and start to think if you are a Canadian or your old self. Could you stand to live where you came from? You miss your family and friends and the food and the weather; but the government, or the system, or something, now look intolerable. At this point, you are starting to assess your investment. Some people hold onto it, some people sell it. I've met immigrants who couldn't wait to get out in disgust. I've met immigrants who couldn't stand to go back where they came from.

The one thing I know for sure, is that no one should come unless they are prepared to try it for several years. Canada has NO immediate gratification. If you want that, stay put. If you want the possibility of delayed gratification, then come.

Some investment.

You are forgetting one important factor and that's your mental state.

I think I said this before. More things happen to me in one day in Asia then they did in 5 years in Toronto.... and I was pretty much established there.

How much value do you put towards your life? Working like a drone 9-5 while highlight of your day is lining up for donuts at Tim Hortons?

If someone offered me 10 million dollars to live back in Canada until the rest of my life, I wouldn't do it. This is how much I value my mental state. I was waking up every day thinking I don't want to die in this country. That would have been the most depressing existence ever. So, yes... you should be jealous of your friends on Facebook sipping coffee and living. Because that is what life is.

Also, not everyone wants to have kids or family.

 

[Ottawa-applicant]

Some investment.

You are forgetting one important factor and that's your mental state.

I think I said this before. More things happen to me in one day in Asia then they did in 5 years in Toronto.... and I was pretty much established there.

How much value do you put towards your life? Working like a drone 9-5 while highlight of your day is lining up for donuts at Tim Hortons?

If someone offered me 10 million dollars to live back in Canada until the rest of my life, I wouldn't do it. This is how much I value my mental state. I was waking up every day thinking I don't want to die in this country. That would have been the most depressing existence ever. So, yes... you should be jealous of your friends on Facebook sipping coffee and living. Because that is what life is.

Also, not everyone wants to have kids or family.

I agree with you, most important is mental state, its a life time decision that you have to make so I would think it over and over study my options and see whats suits me better ( Immigration, good life OR family and stable Job) unless you are able to move with your family then it defiantly something to consider.

Best of Luck

 

[nope]

Some investment.

You are forgetting one important factor and that's your mental state.

I think I said this before. More things happen to me in one day in Asia then they did in 5 years in Toronto.... and I was pretty much established there.

How much value do you put towards your life? Working like a drone 9-5 while highlight of your day is lining up for donuts at Tim Hortons?

If someone offered me 10 million dollars to live back in Canada until the rest of my life, I wouldn't do it. This is how much I value my mental state. I was waking up every day thinking I don't want to die in this country. That would have been the most depressing existence ever. So, yes... you should be jealous of your friends on Facebook sipping coffee and living. Because that is what life is.

Also, not everyone wants to have kids or family.

I agree with this -- but I also think that one of the things that impacts the mental state of recent immigrants is their unfounded belief, from growing up in the Philippines, or Thailand, or India, that life in a 'developed' or 'progressive' country is an uninterrupted series of delights. In fact, day-to-day life in Canada is boring and undignified. That's why a long-term perspective is necessary, no one should come here for quick happiness.

As for kids, of course you're right. But having lived in Asia, the social stability here is one of the things that I value, because I have kids. If I didn't have any, I'd probably have just stayed in Asia.

 

[mochkla]

Thank you all for your Quick answers..IT meant a lot To me.
I have been thinking for days now And i concluded that going back to my country will not bring me Any confort or happiness. I will go back wether to be a desperate houswife or to work for some compagny that will Pay sooo little comparing to the work conditions that anyone can bear..going back means failure to me and IT means that i wasted 3 years of my Life for nothing !! I still have to realize some of my objectives here in ordrer to feel happier and more stable. Besides, lots of my dear friends already left my original country . The Day i decided to come to Canada was the Day i have decided to change my Life. I will certainly suffer a lot in next few years but i have to accept the risks. I am Willing to do so and so will my husband. IT is true that i gave up soo Many things especially to be around my family but going back will depress me more than staying and i don t think that i will be useful for them in that condition..so i will have faith and continue to fight until i and my husband reach our goals..i can only hope for that coz i cannot do anything but believing that things will get better.. Wish u all a good Day.