Should first priority be given to spouses of citizens before PR holders?

[MrsPersaud]

I was reading an old thread that is 700 pages long and during the earliest discussions, there was a general consensus that applications from Canadian citizen spouses should be first in line concluding that it's unfair how people who just recently gained their PR status can bring a whole battalion of family to Canada in a swift, while the citizens have to wait in line, sometimes longer than PR holders, just to take their ONE foreign wife/husband to Canada.

Do you mirror the same views?

I just think Canadians are forgetting their history. They are all immigrants regardless of how long they have occupied the country. The real Canadians are the people from First Nations, Inuit and Methis tribes, and yes, these people get select special benefits from the Canadian government and private institutions.

 

[MissRepresentation]

I understand that it's very tempting to say that citizens and their families should come first. I kind of share that opinion myself (and my husband is a Canadian citizen, not a PR), but I also think that as societies become more globalised, it is much more productive to think about fairness for all rather than about prioritising one group of people over others solely on the basis of their ancestry.

I just think Canadians are forgetting their history. They are all immigrants regardless of how long they have occupied the country. The real Canadians are the people from First Nations, Inuit and Methis tribes, and yes, these people get select special benefits from the Canadian government and private institutions.

Excellent point. Unfortunately, offering "special benefits" is the least that the government could do for First Nations, Metis, and Inuit people, especially when we consider the brutal treatment they received and how their children were systematically murdered and experimented on, and not so long ago! It's a very, very sinister page of Canadian history.

 

[truesmile]

I don't mirror those same views. I was born a Canadian citizen however my parents were not, they were immigrants/PR card holders once too.

 

[sam_1985]

I don't agree with that view at all; I came to Canada as an international student by myself; studied here for 8 years and paid a high fees as a foreign student; then I started working right after graduating with a work permit, then got a PR and have been working since full time, paid taxes, worked in very remote locations of Canada... How did I contribute any less than a born Canadian citizen? In fact I paid a lot more to study and bring about the same tax income to the government (perhaps even more than many born citizens). So would I need to be treated any differently than a citizen to sponsor a spouse? I think people should stop burryig their heads in the sands and make ignorant comments without knowing the facts about all PR's....they don't ALL sponsor their entire families!!!! Give me a break....

 

[keesio]

I find the argument a bit moot since it appears that the biggest impact on processing time (besides red flags) is the nationality of the applicant.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

I just think Canadians are forgetting their history. They are all immigrants regardless of how long they have occupied the country. The real Canadians are the people from First Nations, Inuit and Methis tribes, and yes, these people get select special benefits from the Canadian government and private institutions.

I am not an immigrant. I was born in Canada and am a real Canadian.

Also, applying your statement that we "are all immigrants regardless of how long [we] have occupied the country", Native peoples are just immigrants that have occupied the country longer, as they originally came here from Asia.

Please choose your words better next time.

 

[MrsPersaud]

I am not an immigrant. I was born in Canada and am a real Canadian.

Also, applying your statement that we "are all immigrants regardless of how long [we] have occupied the country", Native peoples are just immigrants that have occupied the country longer, as they originally came here from Asia.

Please choose your words better next time.

Canada became "Canada" during the European settlement. There was no Canada when it was just the native tribes inhabiting the land. They are the original settlers. The European settlers brought a battalion from their country, changed how things were being run, with the natives having no say whatsoever.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Canada became "Canada" during the European settlement. There was no Canada when it was just the native tribes inhabiting the land. They are the original settlers. The European settlers brought a battalion from their country, changed how things were being run, with the natives having no say whatsoever.

So again, applying your own statement, if there was no Canada prior to European settlers, how can you call the Native peoples the "real Canadians"? I'm not arguing history; I'm well aware of the settlement history of the Americas. I'm simply pointing out your poor word choice. I found it somewhat offensive to be told by you that I'm an immigrant and not a real Canadian.

 

[MrsPersaud]

So again, applying your own statement, if there was no Canada prior to European settlers, how can you call the Native peoples the "real Canadians"? I'm not arguing history; I'm well aware of the settlement history of the Americas. I'm simply pointing out your poor word choice. I found it somewhat offensive to be told by you that I'm an immigrant and not a real Canadian.

I'm not about semantics so thanks for pointing it out.

Just sayin how some people are pretty backwards. Got nothing against citizens, but when some use the argument that they feel alienated by CIC's fair consideration to PR sponsors is amusing. The Real Canadians decided to make Canada their home, gave it a name, and alienated the natives. That must have been how the natives felt in the beginning of time.

 

[MrsPersaud]

I find the argument a bit moot since it appears that the biggest impact on processing time (besides red flags) is the nationality of the applicant.

I've come to realize the 2 year old discussion on the other thread came about from distressed sponsors. It was frustration talking for sure. I checked and the people who thought this way are in their golden years married to a much younger foreign spouse.

 

[truesmile]

I've come to realize the 2 year old discussion on the other thread came about from distressed sponsors.

Exactly!

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Just sayin how some people are pretty backwards. Got nothing against citizens, but when some use the argument that they feel alienated by CIC's fair consideration to PR sponsors is amusing. The Real Canadians decided to make Canada their home, gave it a name, and alienated the natives. That must have been how the natives felt in the beginning of time.

Yes, some people feel that way. But you took the opinion of that VERY small minority and used that to say that all non-native Canadians aren't really Canadian, we're all immigrants, we're all " forgetting history". As I said, perhaps choose your words better next time.

 

[Christoph100]

I just think Canadians are forgetting their history. They are all immigrants regardless of how long they have occupied the country.

I do not agree with the above statement....

Definition for the word Immigrant.
"a person who migrates to another country, usually for permanent residence."

Thank you but I consider my self a real Canadian I was born and raised here and did not migrate.
Some of my ancestors were immigrants however.

 

[MrsPersaud]

Yes, some people feel that way. But you took the opinion of that VERY small minority and used that to say that all non-native Canadians aren't really Canadian, we're all immigrants, we're all " forgetting history". As I said, perhaps choose your words better next time.

I do stand corrected. You're not an immigrant, you're Canadian. Never meant to make it sound like you're a foreigner in your own country. Lemme tweak that statement: All Canadians were born to immigrant forefathers. Y'all can discuss my linguistic blunder fi days but my point stays the same. The land was once somebody else's home, and the foreigners dun made a home out of it with little to no damn given about the real residents, which is how some backwards arsed people feel about foreigners nowadays.

Dun noe

 

[sam_1985]

I am not an immigrant. I was born in Canada and am a real Canadian.

Also, applying your statement that we "are all immigrants regardless of how long [we] have occupied the country", Native peoples are just immigrants that have occupied the country longer, as they originally came here from Asia.

Please choose your words better next time.

You are an immigrant whether u like it or not... If u were born in Canada then ur ancestors Immigrated to Canada; and stop making it sound like being an immigrant makes one inferior in any way...it doesn't at all! When PR's become citizens they r just as Canadian as u r in fact even when they r PR's they r just as Canadian...they just can't vote although the government collects taxes from
Them but that's a separate discussion and they don't hold a Canadian passport... But they contribute to society as much as a born Canadian....this is a land of immigrants period! Some came decades ago and some centuries ago.... And above all, what's the point of discussing whether or not u r an Immigrant....what difference does it even make??????? Who cares!!!