cute_guy said:
Hi,
So you are suggesting that it will not be a good option to opt for a 1yr MBA program, as 1yr is short time to get a PNP/PR and it will be risky?
Thing is I got a admit in HEC Montreal 1yr MBA progrm. As you must be aware that its one of the best MBA colleges, but I'm little skeptical due to 1yr duration and Quebec province.
Will be a right choice given that it is HEC, my priority would be to get PNP/PR post my education in Canada.
Kindly suggest.......
Hi,
I suggested to go for the maximum possible duration of 3 years PGWP, keeping in mind the uncertainties after passing out from UNB MBA, in a province like NB, where the unemployment rate is substantially higher. The suggestion is purely generic in nature, and in no way tries to measure or indicate your actual potential and the real life scenario you may face. For example, you may do well, find a skilled job right after MBA, succeed in career and PR will automatically come or you may unfortunately not be able to find a skilled job...and be forced to look for jobs elsewhere. So keeping in mind the worst possible scenario, and your PR goals in mind, I suggested,
generally it's safest to have a 3 years PGWP...so as to give you more than enough time to pursue your PR goals after studies, especially when you are doing an average MBA in a province where unemployment rate is high.
Now, if you are confident on your capabilities, then you may rely on a 1 year PGWP, and then try your luck. It's really upto you.
Usually, students of premier universities/MBA schools, do not worry about PR (no matter what the length of course), and they focus solely on career and try their best to get a skilled job. Once they get a good paying skilled job, even if they have 1 year PGWP... PR automatically follows under CEC.
HEC Montreal is a world class MBA school, and no one should miss an opportunity to study there. 1 year PGWP is NOT the issue here.
However.. since PR is your main goal... let me tell you that, Quebec immigration rules are very different, and depending upon the circumstances it can be VERY EASY to get CSQ(Quebec nomination) and then PR.. or VERY TOUGH/impossible to get CSQ and PR.
The thing is, once you go to Quebec... the rules are all together different. Unless you move out of Quebec and do a skilled job in some other province, till then you will NOT be eligible to apply for PR under federal CEC and if you stay in Quebec, unfortunately chances of PR is very slim, even with a skilled job and HEC MBA..as the points based regular students immigration programme is based on Quebec skilled worker model and unless you have a specific Quebec certificate/diploma/degree which is in demand (mostly Bachelors and vocational diplomas) and have 16 or 12 points allotted for it under the Area of Training, it will be impossible for you to apply for CSQ and PR. So..it can be very difficult. Of course, you can learn French, work for a year and build up points and see... if you can qualify with 55 points or not... but chances are slim. Here's the list of Area of training as per Quebec govt. -
www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/publications/.../list-training.pdf
At the same time, getting CSQ and PR can be VERY EASY... in Quebec after a Master degree, if you can show intermediate level proficiency in French language, i.e clear the DELF B1 level (level 3) exam with required marks of at least 16/25 (in Listening and Speaking) and combined with other 2 sections of Reading and Writing score overall at least 50/100. If you can do that... learn intermediate level French... then DIRECT CSQ after Master degree and then PR under PEQ Quebec graduate scheme. No job offer or working time or any funds to show. Nothing. No Questions asked. So.. PR point of view, either learn DELF B1 level French OR be sure that you can bag a skilled job outside Quebec province (so as to qualify for PR under CEC/other PNP), after studying in HEC Montreal.
Again, this suggestion is generic in nature, and since I do not know details about your background/work history/profile... I cannot comment as to what the real life situation may be.
Still, given HEC Montreal's reputation, I will strongly suggest you to go for MBA at HEC, and simultaneously start learning French. You have enough time from now till Sept. to learn level 1 French and clear the DELF A1 exam. Once in Montreal... over the course of 1 year, you can easily learn level 2 and level 3- DLEF A2 and DELF B1 level exams. Even if it takes longer than 1 year, still... you can start working on PGWP and keep learning French and after clearing DELF B1 level intermediate French proficiency, you can apply for CSQ and then PR. The best part is Quebec won't change it's rules any time soon and even if it say... takes another 6-10 months after course while working in Quebec on PGWP... to learn French, you can submit your CSQ application, get it within 20 days...and be allowed to remain in Quebec with your CSQ (till your PR comes), even if your PGWP expires... provided you are doing a job in your field. Not to mention, Quebec govt. offers free courses in French for new immigrants and potential immigrants (like international students). So, if you can take the pain to learn French... while studying in HEC, it would be the best move for your career as well as getting PR.
I think it will be utter foolishness to leave HEC MBA and join average MBA at UNB, just because you are not willing to learn intermediate level French.
Another option... if you are NOT willing to learn French... apart from the UNB MBA and HEC MBA, You can try getting admission to other good MBA schools outside Quebec.. preferably in prestigious schools as comparable to HEC and then pursue immigration under CEC or other PNP.
Hope it helps.
Best of Luck.
*** All opinions expressed are purely personal, and pieces of information mentioned are to the best of my knowledge... You should consult other sources too.