coolguy2010 said:
Cappuccino,u still didn't get my point
What exactly "fraud" mean in terms of CIC ?.
Is it only restricted to only funds (where the person wants to come up in life and arranging it temporary). Note the person has good income and there is time difference for avaiability of funds to be presented to CIC. For me its not a fraud.
Person taking finance for business purpose, does he inform to its customers or suppliers that he has taken finance.....answer is no. He want to run his business more efficiently and want to grow.
Same way if he is taking finance (that also temporary strictly) for immigration, then it is fraud ?
For me fraud means manipulation of documents, personal information and identity itself. That is purely called fraud which is not acceptable at all. Still people have settled in canada doing one of this.
I m not encouraging anyone to do this, but really understand the situation of those people who have to manage for short time(capable of having more funds than required) and cannot afford to loose this oppurtunity just due to funds.
I will not support people who just take loans and later on also manipulate documents to show funds. At the end of the day, they need hard cash for survival which is not possible
1) CIC explicitly, very explicitly, say that settlement funds cannot be borrowed from another person.
2) In the forms the applicant submits AND SIGNS to the Canadian government they have to write their net assets minus debts. If they do not declare the money they have borrowed on this, then they are blatently lying on SIGNED documents they are submitting to the government.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/protection/fraud/document.asp
It is a serious crime to misrepresent yourself by making false statements, or submitting false information or false documents when dealing with CIC.
Document fraud includes both false and altered documents, such as:
passports and travel documents
visas
diplomas, degrees and apprenticeship or trade papers
birth, marriage, final divorce, annulment, separation or death certificates
police certificates
Lying on an application or in an interview with a CIC officer
is also fraud and a crime.
Making false statements to CIC about the CORRECT genuine level of funding at the time of application is illegal in a very real sense.
You say you understand people who "cannot afford to lose this opportunity because of funds". What about the genuine applicants who may lose this opportunity because of the fraudulent ones?
People have known for the past year that the doors would be opening again. If they were unable to save sufficient funds during that year to apply in May 2013, why could or should CIC possibly believe they will be able to save sufficient funds by the time they land?
I will submit to you that the vast majority of applicants who apply with borrowed funds, also show borrowed funds on landing.
Wayne.
