September 2012: FSW Arranged Employment applicants join here

mysteaka · Feb 2, 2013

Hi,

dbss said:
There are no more documents I can provide....the reason why I am asking this is because I read this at the following link

The CIO has confirmed that it renders a final decision regarding the eligibility of the applicant under the Ministerial Instructions. As this is a decision rather than a mere opinion, these determinations are considered “locked in.”

For example, if the CIO makes a determination that the applicant is eligible to file a FSW application based on Arranged Employment (because they are working in Canada on a valid work permit and have an indeterminate job offer), this eligibility will continue even if the person loses their job before the completion of their permanent residence case. The Canadian Embassy or Consulate will not re-visit the decision with respect to eligibility under the Ministerial Instructions.

http://blog.firstreference.com/2011/05/19/cio-provides-insight-into-federal-skilled-worker-processing/#axzz2Jm7hoAPG

I think :
If CIC considers about quotas on the 29 designated occupations currently, if the program shown in your link is available currently and if your NOC code equals one of the designated occupations, you are ok.
Otherwise, you have an arranged employment and won't lose it, so you are ok.

Btw, Background Checks -EXPLAINED might be helpful to know about things VO sees. Though the information is a little old, the basic criteria must be same...

dbss said:
neha_arora1985 said:

Hi Shan,
Thank you providing this useful link.
What do you mean by the new application mentioned in the link that you have provided?
New application means May 2013 application?
I am a bit confused.

Click to expand...

The link mentioned is an outdated link which is just lying around there...the Date Modified is 2012-10-16 on the page when definitely CIC was looking forward to process FSW as priority...I think the processing time has increased due to another pilot project being opened for FSW and also due to the fact that a lot of CEC applicants have become eligible partly due to reduced hours and partly due to the 1 year work exp required only and most of them would be flooding the CPP-Ottawa office.

Realistic/Optimistic seniors said :

1.	CIC announced that "Process new applications (after May 2013) in less than a year" and "With the decisive actions we've taken to tackle the backlog, we will finally be able to select immigrants who better meet the needs of the Canadian labour market. We will aim to process their applications in less than 12 months." on Nov-02-2012. (http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/releases/2012/2012-11-02.asp)
2.	CIC intended to accept a record high of up to 10,000 permanent residents through CEC in 2013. (www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/releases/2012/2012-10-31.asp)
3.	New FSWP which start from next May also has an annual cap (I don't know how many... but a senior said "it's very few" in another thread)
4.	CPP-O has tons of backlogs transferred from buffalo and today applicants from USA can only select CPP-O as their VO. However, CPP-O said that they will finalize their backlogs transferred from Buffalo by 2015 (MI2/MI3 will be assessed in 2013, and MI1 will be assessed in 2014) (http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/offices/canada/ottawa.asp FAQ #1)

P.S. I'm a pessimist.

amdee · Feb 2, 2013

Hi Guys

Application filed on 10 Dec 2012,
Applications received 14 Dec 2012
Visa Office: CPP-O
CC charged 24 Jan 2013
ECAS: In process "Application Received"

I haven't received my PER. Is that normal, or do I need to worry that my PER went in Spam?
Thanks

mysteaka · Feb 4, 2013

Welcome amdee

I think your case is normal but I would like to recommend you to check your spam folder because some of our friends received PER within a week after payment's taken.
You also can add "Centralized-Intake-Office@cic.gc.ca" to your known-list so you don't have to check your spam folder

Good luck!

- PER

Name	Local VO	App Sent	Received	CC/DD Charged	PER	Note
eshotel	New Delhi	Aug-13	-	-	Oct-23	NOC: 6242
rhen ongsico	Manila	Aug-17	Aug-22	Oct-19	Nov-08	E-CAS: In Process
Thedippaar	Ottawa	Aug-21	Aug-23	Oct-25	Oct-29	E-CAS: In Process
gpranav	New Delhi	Aug-24	Aug-27	-	Oct-31	-
mysteaka	Ottawa	Aug-30	Sep-04	Nov-02	Nov-05	E-CAS: In Process
hithere	Ottawa	Aug-28	Sep-05	Nov-05	Nov-06	E-CAS: In Process
Doni	Vienna	Sep-12	Sep-18	-	Nov-15	E-CAS: In Process

ds3010	Ottawa	Sep-13	Sep-17	Nov-05	-	Jan-8-2013 Doc requested
(Additional Doc)		Jan-16-2013	Jan-21-2013		Jan-22-2013	E-CAS: In Process



ainda	-	Sep-17	-	Nov-05	-	Dec-05 refused Dec-10 sent an e-mail

neha_arora1985	New Delhi	Sep-19	Sep-23	Nov-18	Nov-19	E-CAS: In Process
jibinseb	Ottawa	Sep-18	-	Nov-14	Nov-15	-
vik81	Ottawa	Sep-26	Sep-28	Nov-19	Nov-19	-
volors	-	Sep-27	Oct-02	Nov-25	27-Nov	-
shanindia2007	New Delhi	Oct-29	Nov-06	Dec-27	Jan-03-2013	E-CAS: In Process

jaz0020	Ottawa	-	Oct-17	Nov-28	-	Dec-03
(Sent back)		Dec-04	Dec-06	Jan-16-2013	-	App returned E-CAS: In Process

mani_7835	Ottawa	Oct-21	Oct-26	Dec-10	-	-
blok45	Vienna	Oct-22	Oct-29	-	Dec-31	E-CAS: In Process
gfairc	Kingston	Oct	Oct-29	-	Jan-28-2013
suchnaju	-	Nov-01	Nov-05	-	Dec-27	E-CAS: In Process
shahid_iet	Ottawa	Nov-02	Nov-05	Dec-18	Dec-27	E-CAS: In Process
nalamj	New Delhi	Nov-10	Nov-24	Jan-09-2013	Jan-14-2013	E-CAS: In Process
bsingh	Ottawa	-	Dec-4	Jan-24-2013	-	-
VIJAY10302	New Delhi	-	Dec-20	-	-	-
dbss	Ottawa	Nov-25	Nov-29	Jan-14-2013	Jan-28-2013	NOC: 2282 E-CAS: In Process
amdee	Ottawa	Dec-10	Dec-14	Jan-24-2013	-	E-CAS: In Process "Application Received"

2nd AOR -

Name	Local VO	2nd AOR	MR	PPR	Landing
eshotel	New Delhi	Nov-08-2012	-	-	-
rhen ongsico	Manila	-	-	-	-
Thedippaar	Ottawa	-	-	-	-
gpranav	New Delhi	-	-	-	-
mysteaka	Ottawa	-	-	-	-
hithere	Ottawa	-	-	-	-
Doni	Vienna	Dec-05-2012	-	-	-
ds3010	Ottawa	-	-	-	-
ainda	-	-	-	-
neha_arora1985	New Delhi	-	-	-	-
jibinseb	Ottawa	-	-	-	-
vik81	Ottawa	-	-	-	-
volors	-	-	-	-
shanindia2007	New Delhi	-	-	-	-
jaz0020	Ottawa	-	-	-	-
mani_7835	Ottawa	-	-	-	-
blok45	Vienna	-	-	-	-
gfairc	Kingston	-	-	-	-
suchnaju	-	-	-	-	-
shahid_iet	Ottawa	-	-	-	-
nalamj	-	-	-	-	-
bsingh	Ottawa	-	-	-	-
VIJAY10302	New Delhi	-	-	-	-
dbss	Ottawa	-	-	-	-
amdee	Ottawa	-	-	-	-

VO	:	Visa Office. For processing times, see "Processing times for federal skilled worker applications" on CIC website. CIC explained that "Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) calculates processing times from the day CIC receives an application to the day it makes a decision on the application.". More details can be shown in Help Centre on CIC.
PER	:	Positive Eligibility Review - An email which shows your file number and so on. It will be sent from CIO if your application passes the initial eligibility review. See the other thread titled "What is PER", a senior's website or this pic for more details.
AOR	:	Acknowledgment of Receipt - An email which informs that your full documents have been received by visa office and has been put in queue for processing. Sometimes this is called "2nd AOR" or "Waiting letter" ; In this case, "1st AOR" means "PER". See the other thread titled "what is 2nd AOR" for more details. You can also see the 2nd AOR from Vienna Visa Office here (Thanks Doni!)
MR	:	Medical Request - An email (or a regular mail) that requests you to take medical exams. It might be included in the Initial Assessment.
PPR	:	Passport Request or Confirmation of Permanent Residence - An email (or a regular mail) that requests you to send VO your passport. If you are a citizen of the countries or territories listed in CIC website, you probably receive a "Passport Request". If you are from the visitor visa exemptions country, you maybe receive a "Confirmation of Permanent Residence" instead of passport request and then you can go landing immediately.
Links	:	What happen after PER? - Helpful information by seniors though it's little old.

jaz0020 · Feb 4, 2013

mysteaka said:
Welcome amdee
I think your case is normal but I would like to recommend you to check your spam folder because some of our friends received PER within a week after payment's taken.
You also can add "Centralized-Intake-Office @ cic.gc.ca" to your known-list so you don't have to check your spam folder
Good luck!

- PER

Name Local VO App Sent Received CC/DD Charged PER Note
eshotel New Delhi Aug-13 - - Oct-23 NOC: 6242
rhen ongsico Manila Aug-17 Aug-22 Oct-19 Nov-08 E-CAS: In Process
Thedippaar Ottawa Aug-21 Aug-23 Oct-25 Oct-29 E-CAS: In Process
gpranav New Delhi Aug-24 Aug-27 - Oct-31 -
mysteaka Ottawa Aug-30 Sep-04 Nov-02 Nov-05 E-CAS: In Process
hithere Ottawa Aug-28 Sep-05 Nov-05 Nov-06 E-CAS: In Process
Doni Vienna Sep-12 Sep-18 - Nov-15 E-CAS: In Process

ds3010 Ottawa Sep-13 Sep-17 Nov-05 - Jan-8-2013 Doc requested
(Additional Doc) Jan-16-2013 Jan-21-2013 Jan-22-2013 E-CAS: In Process
ainda - Sep-17 - Nov-05 - Dec-05 refused
Dec-10 sent an e-mail

neha_arora1985 New Delhi Sep-19 Sep-23 Nov-18 Nov-19 E-CAS: In Process
jibinseb Ottawa Sep-18 - Nov-14 Nov-15 -
vik81 Ottawa Sep-26 Sep-28 Nov-19 Nov-19 -
volors - Sep-27 Oct-02 Nov-25 27-Nov -
shanindia2007 New Delhi Oct-29 Nov-06 Dec-27 Jan-03-2013 E-CAS: In Process

jaz0020 Ottawa - Oct-17 Nov-28 - Dec-03
(Sent back) Dec-04 Dec-06 Jan-16-2013 - App returned
E-CAS: In Process

mani_7835 Ottawa Oct-21 Oct-26 Dec-10 - -
blok45 Vienna Oct-22 Oct-29 - Dec-31 E-CAS: In Process
gfairc Kingston Oct Oct-29 - Jan-28-2013
suchnaju - Nov-01 Nov-05 - Dec-27 E-CAS: In Process
shahid_iet Ottawa Nov-02 Nov-05 Dec-18 Dec-27 E-CAS: In Process
nalamj New Delhi Nov-10 Nov-24 Jan-09-2013 Jan-14-2013 E-CAS: In Process
bsingh Ottawa - Dec-4 Jan-24-2013 - -
VIJAY10302 New Delhi - Dec-20 - - -
dbss Ottawa Nov-25 Nov-29 Jan-14-2013 Jan-28-2013 NOC: 2282
E-CAS: In Process
amdee Ottawa Dec-10 Dec-14 Jan-24-2013 - E-CAS: In Process "Application Received"

2nd AOR -

Name Local VO 2nd AOR MR PPR Landing
eshotel New Delhi Nov-08-2012 - - -
rhen ongsico Manila - - - -
Thedippaar Ottawa - - - -
gpranav New Delhi - - - -
mysteaka Ottawa - - - -
hithere Ottawa - - - -
Doni Vienna Dec-05-2012 - - -
ds3010 Ottawa - - - -
ainda - - - -
neha_arora1985 New Delhi - - - -
jibinseb Ottawa - - - -
vik81 Ottawa - - - -
volors - - - -
shanindia2007 New Delhi - - - -
jaz0020 Ottawa - - - -
mani_7835 Ottawa - - - -
blok45 Vienna - - - -
gfairc Kingston - - - -
suchnaju - - - - -
shahid_iet Ottawa - - - -
nalamj - - - - -
bsingh Ottawa - - - -
VIJAY10302 New Delhi - - - -
dbss Ottawa - - - -
amdee Ottawa - - - -

VO : Visa Office. For processing times, see "Processing times for federal skilled worker applications" on CIC website. CIC explained that "Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) calculates processing times from the day CIC receives an application to the day it makes a decision on the application.". More details can be shown in Help Centre on CIC.

PER : Positive Eligibility Review - An email which shows your file number and so on. It will be sent from CIO if your application passes the initial eligibility review. See the other thread titled "What is PER", a senior's website or this pic for more details.

AOR : Acknowledgment of Receipt - An email which informs that your full documents have been received by visa office and has been put in queue for processing. Sometimes this is called "2nd AOR" or "Waiting letter" ; In this case, "1st AOR" means "PER". See the other thread titled "what is 2nd AOR" for more details.
You can also see the 2nd AOR from Vienna Visa Office here (Thanks Doni!)

MR : Medical Request - An email (or a regular mail) that requests you to take medical exams. It might be included in the Initial Assessment.

PPR : Passport Request or Confirmation of Permanent Residence - An email (or a regular mail) that requests you to send VO your passport. If you are a citizen of the countries or territories listed in CIC website, you probably receive a "Passport Request". If you are from the visitor visa exemptions country, you maybe receive a "Confirmation of Permanent Residence" instead of passport request and then you can go landing immediately.

Links : What happen after PER? - Helpful information by seniors though it's little old.

At last PER received on 31st Jan and the wait game is still in process ... i hope to have every thing processed quick for all of us

jaz0020 · Feb 4, 2013

mysteaka said:
Hi,

I think :
If CIC considers about quotas on the 29 designated occupations currently, if the program shown in your link is available currently and if your NOC code equals one of the designated occupations, you are ok.
Otherwise, you have an arranged employment and won't lose it, so you are ok.

Btw, Background Checks -EXPLAINED might be helpful to know about things VO sees. Though the information is a little old, the basic criteria must be same...

The link mentioned is an outdated link which is just lying around there...the Date Modified is 2012-10-16 on the page when definitely CIC was looking forward to process FSW as priority...I think the processing time has increased due to another pilot project being opened for FSW and also due to the fact that a lot of CEC applicants have become eligible partly due to reduced hours and partly due to the 1 year work exp required only and most of them would be flooding the CPP-Ottawa office.

Realistic/Optimistic seniors said :

1. CIC announced that
"Process new applications (after May 2013) in less than a year" and
"With the decisive actions we've taken to tackle the backlog, we will finally be able to select immigrants who better meet the needs of the Canadian labour market. We will aim to process their applications in less than 12 months."
on Nov-02-2012. (http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/releases/2012/2012-11-02.asp)
2. CIC intended to accept a record high of up to 10,000 permanent residents through CEC in 2013. (www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/releases/2012/2012-10-31.asp)
3. New FSWP which start from next May also has an annual cap (I don't know how many... but a senior said "it's very few" in another thread)
4. CPP-O has tons of backlogs transferred from buffalo and today applicants from USA can only select CPP-O as their VO. However, CPP-O said that they will finalize their backlogs transferred from Buffalo by 2015 (MI2/MI3 will be assessed in 2013, and MI1 will be assessed in 2014) (http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/offices/canada/ottawa.asp FAQ #1)

P.S. I'm a pessimist.

quick question form me : last week i received my PER number and today i tried to access the online application status which to my surprise was working till last week and now not showing any records details.

any idea what's happening ??

gpranav · Feb 4, 2013

It is same with me. I think the website is down.

dbss · Feb 4, 2013

Hi Guys

I have got my PCC on 8 Dec, 2012 and need to send it to CPP-O. My question is that the PCC is a letter given to me by CGI and then there is a stamp in my passport for the PCC...am I supposed to send the original PCC letter and a photocopy of the passport PCC or only original PCC or photocopy of the original PCC and passport page (this is unlikely because checklist says original but still)

How do you know what date was your file transferred to the VO from CIO?

Thanks.

saqib.ali · Feb 4, 2013

Hi guys

i got my PER today. My informaiton is as below

App filed December 07, 2012
App recieved December 12, 2012
Got PER Feburary 04, 2013
Vissa office - CPP-O

Good luck to every one and i hope we all get our PR this year.

eshotel · Feb 4, 2013

hey guys,

IS CIC E-CAS WEBSITE IS DOWN OR WAT???

vik81 · Feb 5, 2013

Not sure.. It's working for me.

eshotel said:
hey guys,

IS CIC E-CAS WEBSITE IS DOWN OR WAT???

blok45 · Feb 5, 2013

Also working, although nothing new happening... :'(

amdee · Feb 5, 2013

mysteaka said:
Welcome amdee
I think your case is normal but I would like to recommend you to check your spam folder because some of our friends received PER within a week after payment's taken.
You also can add "Centralized-Intake-Office @ cic.gc.ca" to your known-list so you don't have to check your spam folder
Good luck!

Thanks mysteaka for your time and response. I got my PER today.
This forum is amazing! Best wishes to all.

eshotel · Feb 5, 2013

guys i cnt see my e-cas status anymore....
worried, is it over for me or wat????
pls chk n let me knw.

shanindia2007 · Feb 5, 2013

working properly

mysteaka · Feb 5, 2013

Welcome saqib.ali

Congrats shanindia2007 and amdee for PER! It's great

- PER

Name	Local VO	App Sent	Received	CC/DD Charged	PER	Note
eshotel	New Delhi	Aug-13	-	-	Oct-23	NOC: 6242
rhen ongsico	Manila	Aug-17	Aug-22	Oct-19	Nov-08	E-CAS: In Process
Thedippaar	Ottawa	Aug-21	Aug-23	Oct-25	Oct-29	E-CAS: In Process
gpranav	New Delhi	Aug-24	Aug-27	-	Oct-31	-
mysteaka	Ottawa	Aug-30	Sep-04	Nov-02	Nov-05	E-CAS: In Process
hithere	Ottawa	Aug-28	Sep-05	Nov-05	Nov-06	E-CAS: In Process
Doni	Vienna	Sep-12	Sep-18	-	Nov-15	E-CAS: In Process

ds3010	Ottawa	Sep-13	Sep-17	Nov-05	-	Jan-8-2013 Doc requested
(Additional Doc)		Jan-16-2013	Jan-21-2013		Jan-22-2013	E-CAS: In Process



ainda	-	Sep-17	-	Nov-05	-	Dec-05 refused Dec-10 sent an e-mail

neha_arora1985	New Delhi	Sep-19	Sep-23	Nov-18	Nov-19	E-CAS: In Process
jibinseb	Ottawa	Sep-18	-	Nov-14	Nov-15	-
vik81	Ottawa	Sep-26	Sep-28	Nov-19	Nov-19	-
volors	-	Sep-27	Oct-02	Nov-25	27-Nov	-
shanindia2007	New Delhi	Oct-29	Nov-06	Dec-27	Jan-03-2013	E-CAS: In Process

jaz0020	Ottawa	-	Oct-17	Nov-28	-	Dec-03
(Sent back)		Dec-04	Dec-06	Jan-16-2013	Jan-31-2013	App returned E-CAS: In Process

mani_7835	Ottawa	Oct-21	Oct-26	Dec-10	-	-
blok45	Vienna	Oct-22	Oct-29	-	Dec-31	E-CAS: In Process
gfairc	Kingston	Oct	Oct-29	-	Jan-28-2013
suchnaju	-	Nov-01	Nov-05	-	Dec-27	E-CAS: In Process
shahid_iet	Ottawa	Nov-02	Nov-05	Dec-18	Dec-27	E-CAS: In Process
nalamj	New Delhi	Nov-10	Nov-24	Jan-09-2013	Jan-14-2013	E-CAS: In Process
bsingh	Ottawa	-	Dec-4	Jan-24-2013	-	-
VIJAY10302	New Delhi	-	Dec-20	-	-	-
dbss	Ottawa	Nov-25	Nov-29	Jan-14-2013	Jan-28-2013	NOC: 2282 E-CAS: In Process
saqib.ali	Ottawa	Dec-10	Dec-10	-	Feb-04-2013
amdee	Ottawa	Dec-10	Dec-14	Jan-24-2013	Feb-05-2013	E-CAS: In Process "Application Received"

2nd AOR -

Name	Local VO	2nd AOR	MR	PPR	Landing
eshotel	New Delhi	Nov-08-2012	-	-	-
rhen ongsico	Manila	-	-	-	-
Thedippaar	Ottawa	-	-	-	-
gpranav	New Delhi	-	-	-	-
mysteaka	Ottawa	-	-	-	-
hithere	Ottawa	-	-	-	-
Doni	Vienna	Dec-05-2012	-	-	-
ds3010	Ottawa	-	-	-	-
ainda	-	-	-	-
neha_arora1985	New Delhi	-	-	-	-
jibinseb	Ottawa	-	-	-	-
vik81	Ottawa	-	-	-	-
volors	-	-	-	-
shanindia2007	New Delhi	-	-	-	-
jaz0020	Ottawa	-	-	-	-
mani_7835	Ottawa	-	-	-	-
blok45	Vienna	-	-	-	-
gfairc	Kingston	-	-	-	-
suchnaju	-	-	-	-	-
shahid_iet	Ottawa	-	-	-	-
nalamj	-	-	-	-	-
bsingh	Ottawa	-	-	-	-
VIJAY10302	New Delhi	-	-	-	-
dbss	Ottawa	-	-	-	-
saqib.ali	Ottawa	-	-	-	-
amdee	Ottawa	-	-	-	-

VO	:	Visa Office. For processing times, see "Processing times for federal skilled worker applications" on CIC website. CIC explained that "Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) calculates processing times from the day CIC receives an application to the day it makes a decision on the application.". More details can be shown in Help Centre on CIC.
PER	:	Positive Eligibility Review - An email which shows your file number and so on. It will be sent from CIO if your application passes the initial eligibility review. See the other thread titled "What is PER", a senior's website or this pic for more details.
AOR	:	Acknowledgment of Receipt - An email which informs that your full documents have been received by visa office and has been put in queue for processing. Sometimes this is called "2nd AOR" or "Waiting letter" ; In this case, "1st AOR" means "PER". See the other thread titled "what is 2nd AOR" for more details. You can also see the 2nd AOR from Vienna Visa Office here (Thanks Doni!)
MR	:	Medical Request - An email (or a regular mail) that requests you to take medical exams. It might be included in the Initial Assessment.
PPR	:	Passport Request or Confirmation of Permanent Residence - An email (or a regular mail) that requests you to send VO your passport. If you are a citizen of the countries or territories listed in CIC website, you probably receive a "Passport Request". If you are from the visitor visa exemptions country, you maybe receive a "Confirmation of Permanent Residence" instead of passport request and then you can go landing immediately.
Links	:	What happen after PER? - Helpful information by seniors though it's little old.

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