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Seniors please help:Work permit expiration and PR approval

moon28

Newbie
Apr 16, 2012
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I have received a refusal for my extention of work permit. So I left work and am at home.My PR application has been approved and I have sent my passport and landing fees to Detroit.So I wont be applying for restoration as I will be a PR very soon.

My question is after I receive my passport and documents can I cross the Canada border, enter US (as I have US visa)and land in Canada and complete my re-entry into Canada procedure ?
Also after landing can I right away apply for SIN card in person and start working ?? or Do I have to wait for PR card ??

I have been given a temporary leave of absence from work as my company knows I will be PR very soon.As the PR card takes 3 months do I have to wait for 3 months and then apply for SIN card??
Thank you in advance for your advice
 

seton

Hero Member
Jun 6, 2012
513
61
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
04-06-2012
AOR Received.
05-11-2012
Med's Request
15-02-2013
Med's Done....
21-02-2013
Passport Req..
04-04-2013
VISA ISSUED...
22-04-2013
LANDED..........
03-05-2013
I'm a little confusing by your entry/re-entry question, but once you get your passport with your COPR (Confirmation of PR), you can complete your landing. With regards to future re-entry after landing, you will either need to wait on your PR card or apply for a travel document from a visa office outside Canada.

If you're trying to re-enter Canada to pickup your passport in Canada - well that might be a problem. But I am assuming you are getting your passport/documents sent to you prior to entering Canada.

You can apply for your SIN without a PR card - you can use your passport and confirmation of PR:

Permanent residents

You must submit one of the following primary documents:

Permanent Resident Card issued by Citizenship and Immigration Canada. This is the only acceptable document if your claim was processed in Canada.

Confirmation of Permanent Residence AND visa counterfoil affixed to a foreign passport or a travel document

Confirmation of Permanent Residence AND foreign passport for visa exempt countries

Record of Landing issued before June 28, 2002.

Verification of landing. This document is provided when an original of the Record of Landing or the Confirmation of Permanent Residence is not available (i.e. lost, misplaced, etc.).
http://www.servicecanada.gc.ca/eng/sin/apply/proof.shtml
 

jes_ON

VIP Member
Jun 22, 2009
12,088
1,421
Category........
Visa Office......
New York
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-May-2010
AOR Received.
13-Aug-2010
File Transfer...
01-Mar-2011
Passport Req..
30-Jun-2011
VISA ISSUED...
12-Jul-2011 (received 25-Jul-2011)
LANDED..........
03-Sep-2011
moon28 said:
My question is after I receive my passport and documents can I cross the Canada border, enter US (as I have US visa)and land in Canada and complete my re-entry into Canada procedure ?

You can land at the border even if you don't have a US visa. So, yes.

Also after landing can I right away apply for SIN card in person and start working ?? or Do I have to wait for PR card ??

You can apply for the new SIN card and start working as soon as you have landed.
 

Smile26

Star Member
Mar 2, 2011
150
1
I called the Service ontario and enquired about the same and was told I have to get PR card in order to apply for SIN !!!!
 

seton

Hero Member
Jun 6, 2012
513
61
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
04-06-2012
AOR Received.
05-11-2012
Med's Request
15-02-2013
Med's Done....
21-02-2013
Passport Req..
04-04-2013
VISA ISSUED...
22-04-2013
LANDED..........
03-05-2013
Smile26 said:
I called the Service ontario and enquired about the same and was told I have to get PR card in order to apply for SIN !!!!
Point them to their own website, or the flyers in their office. It's pretty standard.

People answering calls at a helpdesk/call centre don't always know what they're talking about (in general), so doesn't surprise me.
 

jes_ON

VIP Member
Jun 22, 2009
12,088
1,421
Category........
Visa Office......
New York
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-May-2010
AOR Received.
13-Aug-2010
File Transfer...
01-Mar-2011
Passport Req..
30-Jun-2011
VISA ISSUED...
12-Jul-2011 (received 25-Jul-2011)
LANDED..........
03-Sep-2011
As previously quoted by Seton, this is what Service Canada says on their website -
http://www.servicecanada.gc.ca/eng/sin/apply/proof.shtml

Permanent residents

You must submit one of the following primary documents:

Permanent Resident Card issued by Citizenship and Immigration Canada. This is the only acceptable document if your claim was processed in Canada.

Confirmation of Permanent Residence AND visa counterfoil affixed to a foreign passport or a travel document

Confirmation of Permanent Residence AND foreign passport for visa exempt countries

Record of Landing issued before June 28, 2002.

Verification of landing. This document is provided when an original of the Record of Landing or the Confirmation of Permanent Residence is not available (i.e. lost, misplaced, etc.).


Possibly the only point of confusion would be whether "your claim was processed in Canada." I don't know what's going to happen in the future with applications processed completely at CPP-O, but up until the reorganization and closure at Buffalo, CEC applications were still technically processed outside of Canada (even those that went through CPP-O were shipped back to a US visa office for finalization and visa issuance).

I certainly was able to get the new SIN with my COPR.
 

Smile26

Star Member
Mar 2, 2011
150
1
Thanks for the reply. I will be personally going to Service Ontario office and talk to them. Just to be 100 % sure and planning for landing accordingly.

Its been 15 days since I sent my passport to Detroit and the e-cas doesnt show any update...the last is Medicals were received...wonder if its ok !!
 

SenoritaBella

VIP Member
Jan 2, 2012
3,673
194
Category........
Visa Office......
Dakar
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
08-01-2014
AOR Received.
12-02-2014
File Transfer...
25-02-2014
Med's Request
02-11-2015
Med's Done....
18-09-2013
Passport Req..
02-11-2015
VISA ISSUED...
hopefully soon
LANDED..........
hopefully soon
I think it's 15 business days minimum if memory serves me well.

Smile26 said:
Thanks for the reply. I will be personally going to Service Ontario office and talk to them. Just to be 100 % sure and planning for landing accordingly.

Its been 15 days since I sent my passport to Detroit and the e-cas doesnt show any update...the last is Medicals were received...wonder if its ok !!
 

jes_ON

VIP Member
Jun 22, 2009
12,088
1,421
Category........
Visa Office......
New York
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-May-2010
AOR Received.
13-Aug-2010
File Transfer...
01-Mar-2011
Passport Req..
30-Jun-2011
VISA ISSUED...
12-Jul-2011 (received 25-Jul-2011)
LANDED..........
03-Sep-2011
Smile26 said:
Its been 15 days since I sent my passport to Detroit and the e-cas doesnt show any update...the last is Medicals were received...wonder if its ok !!
e-CAS is not really intended for use by outland applicants; it is unreliable at best, and infrequently updated. Not sure if this is still true, but it used to be that most (or all ) outland updates were done on Tuesdays...