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Second Generation Canadian Citizen?

englishemily

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I am finding everything a little confusing and wondering if someone could help me...!

My grandmother was born in Newfoundland in the early 1900's before it was a part of Canada, but she had a Canadian passport. She moved to the UK and lived there for the rest of her life, marrying an English man and having my mother (who was also born in England). Now I know that since 2009 there is a new law that protects citizenship to 1st generation born outside of Canada, so I cannot apply for citizenship- but my Mum can. If my Mum becomes a citizen that way, am I then able to apply for citizenship- based on her new citizenship? I am living in Canada under a work permit and she lives in England. I really don't want to have to go through the Perm Residency route if I dont have to!!

Also is there maybe a loop hole since my Grandmother was born in Newfoundland before it was part of Canada? :D
 

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Even if your mother gets citizenship, you are not a dependent child any more so she can not sponsor you for PR. Therefore, you must apply for yourself.
 

englishemily

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Thank you for your replies!

Could I qualify to apply for citizenship if my Mum becomes a citizen, based upon her being the 1st generation born outside of Canada?
 

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Hi,

englishemily said:
Sorry in 1983


Since you were born before April 17, 2009 and if your mom becomes citizen, you could apply for proof of Canadian citizenship.
 

englishemily

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steaky said:
Hi,



Since you were born before April 17, 2009 and if your mom becomes citizen, you could apply for proof of Canadian citizenship.

Ok that is good news!

So, based on the fact that I was born before 2009, can I apply for citizenship by myself- or is it obligatory for my Mum to apply first and myself apply once she is granted her citizenship? Its so confusing!?
 

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englishemily said:
Ok that is good news!

So, based on the fact that I was born before 2009, can I apply for citizenship by myself- or is it obligatory for my Mum to apply first and myself apply once she is granted her citizenship? Its so confusing!?
your mom apply first and if granted, then you!
 

englishemily

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steaky said:
your mom apply first and if granted, then you!
Ok thank you so much. Going that way will be a lot more painless than me applying for PR on my own in Canada, which is good news!
 

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Hi

englishemily said:
Ok thank you so much. Going that way will be a lot more painless than me applying for PR on my own in Canada, which is good news!
I suggest you take the questionnaire first: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizenship/rules/index.asp
 

englishemily

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PMM said:
Hi

I suggest you take the questionnaire first:
Hi PMM
Based on the questionnaire my Mum does qualify as a Canadian citizen- but I just wanted to check that she can pass the citizenship down to me once it has been confirmed. I saw on a website that some people get granted a citizenship lite, which meant that I could not benefit from her becomming a citizen. My Mum is not likely going to move to Canada in the near future but I want to live here long-term and obtaining dual citizenship right away would be much easier than going through the PR application (not to mention cheaper).
 

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I think if your mother was always a citizen, you might qualify once she gets registered but if your mother was granted citizenship only because of the new law but was not a citizen before then, then it would not extend to you as she would not have been a citizen when you were born.

That would be similar to a person who immigrates and gets citizenship, adult children they had before gaining citizenship would not have a claim to it.
 

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hi leon my daughter is a second generation canadain born abraod and she has been denied her canadain passport because of the new rule. the deal is i juat got my immigration visa to canada and i have to travel by june 2012, i am in pakistan and i don't know what to do. how can i get my daughter to accompany me to canada and apply for her immigration if ou have any comments on this please guide me
 

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shaimaa said:
hi leon my daughter is a second generation canadain born abraod and she has been denied her canadain passport because of the new rule. the deal is i juat got my immigration visa to canada and i have to travel by june 2012, i am in pakistan and i don't know what to do. how can i get my daughter to accompany me to canada and apply for her immigration if ou have any comments on this please guide me
I assume that your spouse is a Canadian citizen by descent, who has sponsored you then? Your spouse must also sponsor your child for PR. Contact the embassy and ask if the child can be added to the application. Medicals and background checks for a child shouldn't take too long. Once the child is in Canada, your spouse can apply for the citizenship of the child immediately.
 

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Leon said:
I assume that your spouse is a Canadian citizen by descent, who has sponsored you then? Your spouse must also sponsor your child for PR. Contact the embassy and ask if the child can be added to the application. Medicals and background checks for a child shouldn't take too long. Once the child is in Canada, your spouse can apply for the citizenship of the child immediately.
You are totally right about that, my husband is first generation born outside, he got his citizenship last year, now he is sponsoring me and our kids. My question is ( I found in CIC` s website that if he applies for their citizenship before they are 18 y.old they wouln`t have to write the test, just take an oath) how long it would take for them to get their citizenship, if they skip testing part?? Anyone ??!