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Scaremongering related to PR Card post landing & PR activation

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Its been almost 5 months since I got AOR and I have paid all the fees in advance, also my BG check is in progress so I am hoping to get a COPR issued soon. My plan is that I will enter Canada, meet my friends and relatives and come back to India after staying there for a max of a week or two, and then write a letter to CIC requesting them to ship/courier the PR card to my relative's home in Windsor which they will courier me back to India. I might work in India for like a year or two before actually deciding whether I should move to Canada for good, or not.

But the problem is that every person living in Canada that I talk to is saying that I am deeply misinformed and that I cannot leave Canada so soon, before getting a PR card. Even if I do, there could be a telephonic inquiry and if govt finds out I have left the country and not staying with my relatives(since i gave their address for couriering the PR card), they will cancel my PR status. I have further been advised that even if I leave Canada after landing in the first week itself, I have to come back within first 3-6 months and I cannot delay my re-entry up to 1-2 years.

The reason i got from them was that the government deeply cares about making sure that immigrants in their country economically contribute to the nation so that public welfare and standard of living can increase. There are many people like me who are trying to take advantage of the express entry system in this way and hence government makes sure such people's visas and PR's get canceled through proper inquiries and rules that we wont find on the CIC's website because they are buried in the details and paperwork in the CIC's offices and immigration rule book.

Moreover, I have also been informed that every year, we need to file tax with the government if you are a PR and if I am not in the country and do not file tax, my PR status gets canceled.

Now, although all my research goes against all these scaremongering stuff, but still I really want to ask seniors in this forum if there is any merit in these arguments that people have posed. And if not, then what in your experience are the mistakes that I should avoid or loopholes that I need to take care of to ensure that my PR status stays valid for 5 years, and that I can re-enter Canada anytime in the future.

Also, are there any compelling reasons or proofs that I need to submit to CIC to take their permission to leave canada before getting PR card? Should i disclose them at the time of entering canada? or should i do it post landing?

Your contribution to this thread will be deeply appreciated and will set a benchmark to help others too. Thanks
 

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Re: Soft Landing Express Entry Canada

There is no soft landing. You land and activate pr.

You can leave immediately as long as in the 5 years after landing, you spend 2 years in Canada.
 

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Re: Soft Landing Express Entry Canada

kryt0n said:
There is no soft landing. You land and activate pr.

You can leave immediately as long as in the 5 years after landing, you spend 2 years in Canada.
I already know that my friend and have read many threads on this topic but never found the exact answers. Please kindly try to answer in response to the specific questions I have posed incase you have proper information
 

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Re: Land in Soft Landing Express Entry Canada

kaizadhans said:
Its been almost 5 months since I got AOR and I have paid all the fees in advance, also my BG check is in progress so I am hoping to get a COPR issued soon. My plan is that I will enter Canada, meet my friends and relatives and come back to India after staying there for a max of a week or two, and then write a letter to CIC requesting them to ship/courier the PR card to my relative's home in Windsor which they will courier me back to India. I might work in India for like a year or two before actually deciding whether I should move to Canada for good, or not.

But the problem is that every person living in Canada that I talk to is saying that I am deeply misinformed and that I cannot leave Canada so soon,
You can leave immediately before getting a PR card. Even if I do, there could be a telephonic inquiry and if govt finds out I have left the country and not staying with my relatives(since i gave their address for couriering the PR card), they will cancel my PR status False. I have further been advised that even if I leave Canada after landing in the first week itself, I have to come back within first 3-6 months and I cannot delay my re-entry up to 1-2 years. False

The reason i got from them was that the government deeply cares about making sure that immigrants in their country economically contribute to the nation so that public welfare and standard of living can increase. There are many people like me who are trying to take advantage of the express entry system in this way and hence government makes sure such people's visas and PR's get canceled through proper inquiries and rules that we wont find on the CIC's website because they are buried in the details and paperwork in the CIC's offices and immigration rule book.

Moreover, I have also been informed that every year, we need to file tax with the government if you are a PR and if I am not in the country and do not file tax, my PR status gets canceled. You can file a tax return, but you won't have paid anything so won't owe anything.

Now, although all my research goes against all these scaremongering stuff, but still I really want to ask seniors in this forum if there is any merit in these arguments that people have posed. And if not, then what in your experience are the mistakes that I should avoid or loopholes that I need to take care of to ensure that my PR status stays valid for 5 years, and that I can re-enter Canada anytime in the future.

Also, are there any compelling reasons or proofs that I need to submit to CIC to take their permission to leave canada before getting PR card? Should i disclose them at the time of entering canada? or should i do it post landing? No

Your contribution to this thread will be deeply appreciated and will set a benchmark to help others too. Thanks
Also, please don't be rude. I did answer your question.
 

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Also here:

Residency obligation
Calculating days present in Canada

If you have been a permanent resident for five (5) years or more

you must have been physically present in Canada for a minimum of 730 days within the five (5) years immediately before you apply for a PRTD.
If you have been a permanent resident for less than five (5) years

you must show that you will be able to meet the minimum of 730 days of physical presence in Canada within five (5) years of the date you became a permanent resident.


http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5529ETOC.asp
 

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there is no point in coming to Canada lets say after getting successful PR status
if u wish to come after let say after 2.5 or 3 years....they will not renew ur next PR...because u have to still maintain 2 years residence in Canada after receiving the PR status
 

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Re: Soft Landing Express Entry Canada

kaizadhans said:
I already know that my friend and have read many threads on this topic but never found the exact answers. Please kindly try to answer in response to the specific questions I have posed incase you have proper information
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5529ETOC.asp
 

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sweetcute123 said:
there is no point in coming to Canada lets say after getting successful PR status
if u wish to come after let say after 2.5 or 3 years....they will not renew ur next PR...because u have to still maintain 2 years residence in Canada after receiving the PR status
He can land immidately and activate his PR.

After that providing he spends 2 years in Canada within the next 5 years, there's no problem.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/newcomers/about-pr.asp
 

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sweetcute123 said:
Sure...he can do that
still has to maintain 2 years canadian residency to get next PR
Yes, that wasn't his question or concern.

He could land in Jan 2017 and fly out in Jan 2017. He then doesn't have to return Canada until Jan 2020. As long as he then stays in Canada until Jan 2022 he gets to retain his PR status.

It's two years out of five. Doesn't matter if it's one day a week over those years, as long as it adds up to 730 days out of 1825 days after he lands.
 

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@kryton sorry my friend if you found my reply rude, I was merely trying to get specific information and not something too generic which I was already aware of. I apologize if you felt that way! :)

Now with regards to my question, my relative is saying what if someone calls from the CIC before dispatching the PR card and I am not present in Canada? So its better to write an application in advance to the government and declare your intentions and inform them of your plans.

Now if this is not true, then why does everyone I speak to who lives in Canada and is either a PR or citizen out rightly rejects my idea that I can activate my PR on landing, and go back immediately and have no problem at all re-entering Canada after 2 years. Its very strange, feels like there must be something that we all are missing, or they are not well informed and relying on rumors, or its just plain scaremongering. or maybe times have changed and so have the rules over the past 5-10 years.

Requesting you all to dig a little deeper into this matter, and let everyone know what kind of steps an applicant needs to take to ensure smooth transition to this process, and what are the mistakes or loopholes to avoid.
 

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When you land, you can only have the PR card sent to a Canadian address. It can be a friend or relative's address, and they can send it to you overseas so that you can reenter Canada once you have it. I do not believe you have to notify CIC of anything unless you land, leave and go back to Canada before you receive your PR card in the post.
 

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kaizadhans said:
@kryton sorry my friend if you found my reply rude, I was merely trying to get specific information and not something too generic which I was already aware of. I apologize if you felt that way! :)

Now with regards to my question, my relative is saying what if someone calls from the CIC before dispatching the PR card and I am not present in Canada? So its better to write an application in advance to the government and declare your intentions and inform them of your plans.

Now if this is not true, then why does everyone I speak to who lives in Canada and is either a PR or citizen out rightly rejects my idea that I can activate my PR on landing, and go back immediately and have no problem at all re-entering Canada after 2 years. Its very strange, feels like there must be something that we all are missing, or they are not well informed and relying on rumors, or its just plain scaremongering. or maybe times have changed and so have the rules over the past 5-10 years.

Requesting you all to dig a little deeper into this matter, and let everyone know what kind of steps an applicant needs to take to ensure smooth transition to this process, and what are the mistakes or loopholes to avoid.
if ur so worried..stay longer ...these days PR cards are delivered in 30-40 days
 

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Alright guys.. thanks for your input.