Same & Equal for all (paper base applicant & online base applicant).

[Azad2020]

Hi All,

Today I sent a mail to the respective Canadian Immigration Authority to consider same treatment for both type of visa applicant (paper base & online base).The sending mail as given below-


Dear Sir/Madam,

The Canadian respective authority should maintain same equal law for all visa applicant.

Normally who apply through online they do not need to submit any passport prior getting passport request from the cic.

Even after processed respective passport from the visa office,they get visa approval mail prior getting their passport in to their hand.


On the other side who apply on paper application in person through VAC,they need to submit passport along with application.

Even after processed respective passport from the visa office,they can not able to know any update (approve or refuse) until they pick up passport from the VAC and open the envelop.


If you look over so many Canadian TRV visa related blog,you can easily able to realise what a tough critical time has passed by those applicant who apply by paper application and did not able to know anything even their processed passport dispatched from the visa office to the VAC.

For both type of application each applicant has to pay same visa fee but one will able to know earlier that their visa was approve and other one will not able to know anything?Why the different treatment for two different applicant?


Meantime in stead of using paper (which visa officer normally sent to those who's visa is not approve) if CIC think to inform both type of visa applicant (online & paper) regarding their visa approval or refusing matter by email which now a days CIC is using for the online base applicant ,a lot of paper will be save which is very important now a days due to climate change in the world.


This is just my personal opinion which can consider respective authority.

Thanks a lot for your earliest attention as well as kind consideration.

 

[Bryanna]

Hi Azad,

Applicants do not know if the visa is granted or not even when one applies for other countries through VFS/VACs. It's only when the passport is returned that one gets to know this. So what you've said does not apply only to Canada TRVs.

For some other countries, an applicant does know know if the visa is issued or not even when s/he pays twice the amount (in terms of visa fees) for priority visa processing.... until the passport is returned.

Whether an applicant applies online or as a paper submission, s/he will know whether a TRV is issued or not only when a decision is taken. It's not as if online applicants get to know sooner/faster than paper applicants. Maybe about 24 hours earlier if one considers courier delivery time. That's not much *extra time* time to wait for a decision.

BTW there have been cases where applicants were refused TRVs after submitting their passports by the online process. Again, this means even online applicants do not know if TRVs are issued or not until they get their passports back. Just like paper applicants.

As for requesting CIC to inform paper applicants about approvals/refusals through email, don't forget CIC MUST return the applicants' passports. It's just a matter of a 1-page refusal letter with the passport..... or shiny visas in the passports (no approval letters, no usage of paper, no impact on climate change)


Cheers

 

[Azad2020]

Hi Azad,

Applicants do not know if the visa is granted or not even when one applies for other countries through VFS/VACs. It's only when the passport is returned that one gets to know this. So what you've said does not apply only to Canada TRVs.

For some other countries, an applicant does know know if the visa is issued or not even when s/he pays twice the amount (in terms of visa fees) for priority visa processing.... until the passport is returned.

Whether an applicant applies online or as a paper submission, s/he will know whether a TRV is issued or not only when a decision is taken. It's not as if online applicants get to know sooner/faster than paper applicants. Maybe about 24 hours earlier if one considers courier delivery time. That's not much *extra time* time to wait for a decision.

BTW there have been cases where applicants were refused TRVs after submitting their passports by the online process. Again, this means even online applicants do not know if TRVs are issued or not until they get their passports back. Just like paper applicants.

As for requesting CIC to inform paper applicants about approvals/refusals through email, don't forget CIC MUST return the applicants' passports. It's just a matter of a 1-page refusal letter with the passport..... or shiny visas in the passports (no approval letters, no usage of paper, no impact on climate change)


Cheers

Hi Bryanna,I did not tell about other countries visa submitting matter through VAC.I just mentioned only about Canadian TRV Visa Submitting matter by paper and online base.Exceptional can not be a best example.Yes,you are right that sometimes online base visa applicant also refused and can not be able to know until open up their envelop after pick up from VAC that either their visa is approve or not.But their quantities are less (approx 10%).But maximum on line base applicant (90%) can able to confirm that their visa approval chances are higher when they got request to submit passport and medical.

Regarding paper using matter you are telling that CIC is uses just only one paper as refusing letter per applicant.That is right but do you know about the statics in the whole world how many visa applicant are refusing by CIC and how many paper they are using to issue their refusal letter?Due to climate change matter now a days maximum western country are going to reduce paper base issuing documents to keep more green world to become more saver,For example I can tell about Belgium.So if CIC just let inform both of type applicant (online & paper base) by email about visa update (approval & not approval) to the applicant,can you count how many paper can be save and how it would be able to keep more green our existing world to become more save.By reducing paper how can we save our world and keep more green,to know more you can log at website :http://http://wwf.panda.org/how_you_can_help/live_green/fsc/save_paper/office_paper/
and website :www.reduce.org/paper/

 

[Bryanna]

Hi Azad,

A couple of my Belgian friends were able to access/know the internal processing status of their spouse visa applications (Family Reunification visa, similar to Canada's Family Class Sponsorship)..... we are not talking about official online updates/decisions. How? Because they claimed they had friends who were working in the consulate/embassy.

I don't want to debate if there's any element of truth in these claims..... they were, however, pretty spot on for their timelines. Going by your logic, this means no efforts were necessary to inform these applicants even by emails.


It works both ways. If an applicant is terribly concerned about saving paper/trees then s/he must submit only online TRV applications.... no paper applications. Why should one expect CIC to save paper/trees?


Canada has been transforming the way it manages visas/immigration applications. Since December 2011, CIC no longer prints or mails paper copies of visa/immigration forms and related guides thanks to technology and improved online services.

CIC has been going paperless = estimated CAD 4 million savings = CIC cares about the environment, climate change, green world et al


Cheers

 

[indiaguy121]

Nepotism is common in Canadian high commissions. I know a friend who was able to get visas for his dozen friends because one of his friend worked in HC. The visa officer was Canadian and not locally engaged staff. Canada's visa system is drowning in red tape.

 

[steaky]

Nepotism is common in Canadian high commissions. I know a friend who was able to get visas for his dozen friends because one of his friend worked in HC. The visa officer was Canadian and not locally engaged staff. Canada's visa system is drowning in red tape.

Why does it matter that the visa officer was Canadian and not locally engaged staff? Why do you got the impression that the visa system is drowning in red tape?

 

[indiaguy121]

John McCallum immigration minister wrote an article last year
"Canada’s visa system is drowning in red tape"- Toronto Star.
These following headlines and news are worth reading. They are all latest news.
"Citizenship nightmare: Red tape separates B.C. mom from tot"
"Immigration red tape separates B.C. mom from her child for two months"
The report reveals that Pretoria embassy staff is outsourced and locally engaged staff were not aware of the Canadian citizenship rules that children of Canadian citizens are Canadian citizens.

 

[Azad2020]

Hi Azad,

A couple of my Belgian friends were able to access/know the internal processing status of their spouse visa applications (Family Reunification visa, similar to Canada's Family Class Sponsorship)..... we are not talking about official online updates/decisions. How? Because they claimed they had friends who were working in the consulate/embassy.

I don't want to debate if there's any element of truth in these claims..... they were, however, pretty spot on for their timelines. Going by your logic, this means no efforts were necessary to inform these applicants even by emails.


It works both ways. If an applicant is terribly concerned about saving paper/trees then s/he must submit only online TRV applications.... no paper applications. Why should one expect CIC to save paper/trees?


Canada has been transforming the way it manages visas/immigration applications. Since December 2011, CIC no longer prints or mails paper copies of visa/immigration forms and related guides thanks to technology and improved online services.

CIC has been going paperless = estimated CAD 4 million savings = CIC cares about the environment, climate change, green world et al


Cheers

Yea,you are right.In stead of paper I should apply by online.In future (if I need to apply TRV ) I will apply through online to avoid pure panic which is getting currently by submitting paper application.

Regarding Belgium issue what you told I did not know although currently I am temporary resident of Belgium.
Anyway,thanks for your clarification.