As noted in the previous post, there are two main questions I am trying to address:
I will address the latter first. My sense (not certain but it seems) this is the focus of concern expressed by @canuck78 and it is quite likely more than a few Canadians share this concern. I understand. Not only does it seem unfair to reward those who break the rules just because they stay in Canada after, in effect, getting caught breaking the rules, but there probably is reason to apprehend this to some extent may encourage breaking the rules.
BUT it should be recognized there is little, probably very little, about the nature and scope of the "credit" being discussed here, which should in anyway encourage failing to comply with the RO. This is almost exclusively about what happens, and why, AFTER a PR has breached the RO. No one should make decisions relying on getting this kind of credit. It frankly is not, not ordinarily, not usually, enough to make the difference.
So, the latter question, what sort of credit or benefit might a PR get for staying in Canada pending an appeal . . . this question is not directly posed by the Metallo case, at least insofar as it has not been a factor in either the IAD decision or McHaffie's FC granting of the appeal. As previously noted, however, it is possible it could be a factor when another IAD panel redetermines Metallo's fate.
By Regulation, IRPA Regulation 62 in particular (cited in full and linked in a previous post) mandates that credit toward RO compliance does not include credit for days in Canada after the decision being appealed (date of 44(1) Report or PR TD denial).
So no matter how long the appeal process takes, no matter how long a PR manages to "prolong" proceedings, staying in Canada in the meantime does not help the PR in regards to determining if the PR is in breach of the RO.
And for the most part it seems IRCC, the IAD, and the FC, even in regards to weighing H&C factors, are generally reluctant to overtly give positive weight to the PR just for staying. But, as noted, nonetheless the conventional wisdom, which again seems well founded, is that staying does in practice make a positive difference.
This is where things are a bit tricky and is a subject I have been dancing around for quite some time in this forum. Obviously, this time in Canada (during the appeal process) can help, in effect, smuggle positive weight into the H&C calculation through other factors, in regards to developing ties in Canada and degree of establishment in particular. The caveat is that even though this might bring some additional positive weight into the calculation, I do not recall seeing it given much weight, typically not enough to tip the scales in a situation where things are leaning toward denying H&C relief otherwise.
In contrast, what I have mostly seen is that being absent from Canada pending appeal, NOT being IN Canada, tends to be considered a negative factor, an unfavourable factor carrying enough negative weight to tip the scales against H&C relief in a case where, otherwise, H&C relief might be allowed.
This gets into the vagaries of terminology used by different IAD panels, and similarly among different FC justices. This can get bogged down in nuances about weighing and balancing the different factors, including neutral factors (I avoid thinking too hard about how a neutral factor carries weight because, well, that tends to be a rabbit hole leading to places where a red queen might be standing on her head).
However one cuts this cloth, and whatever terms are used, what it appears to come down to is that staying in Canada accomplishes two things:
So it helps to stay, perhaps not by much but some, but it really hurts to not stay.
Which, frankly, makes good sense. Staying is not going to cure the breach. Staying is not going to overcome an otherwise weak H&C case. But staying will avoid the negative weight that remaining outside Canada would of course carry, and it otherwise signals the individual is settling in Canada as the grant of PR is intended.
Finally bringing this back around to Metallo and Rastgou. Finally focusing in on what it means to give them credit for days in Canada after applying for a PRC up to the date a Report is prepared.
Relative to calculating RO compliance, for the purpose of determining if the PR has complied with the RO, it very much appears that credit is given (as a matter of policy and practice), as is consistent with a more or less literal reading of the statute and regulation, which effectively mandate giving credit to any days in Canada before the date a 44(1) Report is prepared.
But that was not the situation for either Metallo or Rastgou. For both of them, getting that additional credit was not enough. Despite the credit, they were still in breach of the RO.
In both cases the IAD declined to give this time period in Canada, after the PRC application, positive weight, a "credit," toward the H&C calculation. In Rastgou the Minister apparently argued for this. In Metallo the Minister allowed such credit should be given but argued the difference getting such credit would make is not enough to make the IAD's decision unreasonable.
I am kind of with the Minister's representative on this one. The published decision states:
"The Minister argues the difference in the extent of the shortfall (from 40% to 18%) was not enough to change the outcome."
Metallo, after all, is not about a new immigrant navigating the sometimes tricky path leading from a life in the home country to a new life on another continent. Metallo became a PR in 1972. Presumably the IAD reviewed and evaluated the whole range of factors considered in such cases. The extent of the breach is just one factor, and as the Minister apparently argued, even giving Metallo the additional credit, the extent of the breach was still substantial, still falling short by more than a hundred days, particularly for someone who had been a PR for more than forty years.
That is, the "credit" at stake here is not about whether the PR is in breach. The PR is in breach. At best, it is about the extent of the breach. And in Metallo's case, even with the credit he is still in breach by more than a hundred days, which in the overall context of Metallo's story, I see the Minister's point of view, that hardly seems enough to conclude the IAD was unreasonable.
I realize I have spent a lot of effort wrestling with some rather narrow aspects of the RO breach H&C case. Especially since the main reason for focusing much attention on Metallo and Rastgou is because they mostly establish that a PR should (under the current rules) get credit toward RO compliance for days in Canada between the date a PRC application is made and the date of examination or decision, even though that was not the particular issue for either Metallo or Rastgou.
But it is otherwise helpful to more fully explore how some factors, like days in Canada that do not get counted toward RO compliance itself, can influence the decision making, and more particularly the nature of any benefit the PR might get from staying in Canada while an appeal is in progress.
So, let me conclude this by bringing up the more common if not obvious example. Among the more common scenarios is the PR who has had to stay abroad for financial reasons, mostly for a particular job, while the PR's family has settled in Canada. This is perhaps the most common situation in which staying pending an appeal can make the biggest difference. And while it is not stated as such in the IAD decisions, the difference is in how much negative weight continuing to live and work abroad has, and in effect removing that negative weight from the calculation by staying and at least appearing to have finally settled in Canada.
The latter is more than a mere example of how this particular factor can influence a specific case. It illustrates how intricately connected all the elements of the H&C case are, how dependent the weight one factor can carry is on other factors. Making predictions all the more difficult and speculative.
But the overriding take-away, the looming caveat, is that PRs still in a decision-making mode should NOT give much consideration to these nuances in the H&C case. The sooner the PR gets to Canada to stay, the better. Once in Canada, always better to wait to be in full RO compliance before making a PRC application. These nuances, the battle over some credit for this or that period of time, for the PR who is in breach of the RO, is only about making the case after the fact . . . about the adjudicating the issues, NOT about deciding how much longer to stay abroad or about when to apply for a new PR card.
-- What sort of "credit" or benefit will Metallo, and similarly Rastgou, get for days in Canada after making the PRC application up to the date of 44(1) Report?
-- What sort of "credit" or benefit might a PR get for staying in Canada pending an appeal??
I will address the latter first. My sense (not certain but it seems) this is the focus of concern expressed by @canuck78 and it is quite likely more than a few Canadians share this concern. I understand. Not only does it seem unfair to reward those who break the rules just because they stay in Canada after, in effect, getting caught breaking the rules, but there probably is reason to apprehend this to some extent may encourage breaking the rules.
BUT it should be recognized there is little, probably very little, about the nature and scope of the "credit" being discussed here, which should in anyway encourage failing to comply with the RO. This is almost exclusively about what happens, and why, AFTER a PR has breached the RO. No one should make decisions relying on getting this kind of credit. It frankly is not, not ordinarily, not usually, enough to make the difference.
So, the latter question, what sort of credit or benefit might a PR get for staying in Canada pending an appeal . . . this question is not directly posed by the Metallo case, at least insofar as it has not been a factor in either the IAD decision or McHaffie's FC granting of the appeal. As previously noted, however, it is possible it could be a factor when another IAD panel redetermines Metallo's fate.
By Regulation, IRPA Regulation 62 in particular (cited in full and linked in a previous post) mandates that credit toward RO compliance does not include credit for days in Canada after the decision being appealed (date of 44(1) Report or PR TD denial).
So no matter how long the appeal process takes, no matter how long a PR manages to "prolong" proceedings, staying in Canada in the meantime does not help the PR in regards to determining if the PR is in breach of the RO.
And for the most part it seems IRCC, the IAD, and the FC, even in regards to weighing H&C factors, are generally reluctant to overtly give positive weight to the PR just for staying. But, as noted, nonetheless the conventional wisdom, which again seems well founded, is that staying does in practice make a positive difference.
This is where things are a bit tricky and is a subject I have been dancing around for quite some time in this forum. Obviously, this time in Canada (during the appeal process) can help, in effect, smuggle positive weight into the H&C calculation through other factors, in regards to developing ties in Canada and degree of establishment in particular. The caveat is that even though this might bring some additional positive weight into the calculation, I do not recall seeing it given much weight, typically not enough to tip the scales in a situation where things are leaning toward denying H&C relief otherwise.
In contrast, what I have mostly seen is that being absent from Canada pending appeal, NOT being IN Canada, tends to be considered a negative factor, an unfavourable factor carrying enough negative weight to tip the scales against H&C relief in a case where, otherwise, H&C relief might be allowed.
This gets into the vagaries of terminology used by different IAD panels, and similarly among different FC justices. This can get bogged down in nuances about weighing and balancing the different factors, including neutral factors (I avoid thinking too hard about how a neutral factor carries weight because, well, that tends to be a rabbit hole leading to places where a red queen might be standing on her head).
However one cuts this cloth, and whatever terms are used, what it appears to come down to is that staying in Canada accomplishes two things:
-- it negates the potentially very negative factor of being outside Canada pending the appeal, and
-- it simply makes allowing the PR to keep status more palatable, since the PR is settling in Canada at least apparently consistent with the purpose of granting PR status, so the individual can settle in Canada
So it helps to stay, perhaps not by much but some, but it really hurts to not stay.
Which, frankly, makes good sense. Staying is not going to cure the breach. Staying is not going to overcome an otherwise weak H&C case. But staying will avoid the negative weight that remaining outside Canada would of course carry, and it otherwise signals the individual is settling in Canada as the grant of PR is intended.
Finally bringing this back around to Metallo and Rastgou. Finally focusing in on what it means to give them credit for days in Canada after applying for a PRC up to the date a Report is prepared.
Relative to calculating RO compliance, for the purpose of determining if the PR has complied with the RO, it very much appears that credit is given (as a matter of policy and practice), as is consistent with a more or less literal reading of the statute and regulation, which effectively mandate giving credit to any days in Canada before the date a 44(1) Report is prepared.
But that was not the situation for either Metallo or Rastgou. For both of them, getting that additional credit was not enough. Despite the credit, they were still in breach of the RO.
In both cases the IAD declined to give this time period in Canada, after the PRC application, positive weight, a "credit," toward the H&C calculation. In Rastgou the Minister apparently argued for this. In Metallo the Minister allowed such credit should be given but argued the difference getting such credit would make is not enough to make the IAD's decision unreasonable.
I am kind of with the Minister's representative on this one. The published decision states:
"The Minister argues the difference in the extent of the shortfall (from 40% to 18%) was not enough to change the outcome."
Metallo, after all, is not about a new immigrant navigating the sometimes tricky path leading from a life in the home country to a new life on another continent. Metallo became a PR in 1972. Presumably the IAD reviewed and evaluated the whole range of factors considered in such cases. The extent of the breach is just one factor, and as the Minister apparently argued, even giving Metallo the additional credit, the extent of the breach was still substantial, still falling short by more than a hundred days, particularly for someone who had been a PR for more than forty years.
That is, the "credit" at stake here is not about whether the PR is in breach. The PR is in breach. At best, it is about the extent of the breach. And in Metallo's case, even with the credit he is still in breach by more than a hundred days, which in the overall context of Metallo's story, I see the Minister's point of view, that hardly seems enough to conclude the IAD was unreasonable.
I realize I have spent a lot of effort wrestling with some rather narrow aspects of the RO breach H&C case. Especially since the main reason for focusing much attention on Metallo and Rastgou is because they mostly establish that a PR should (under the current rules) get credit toward RO compliance for days in Canada between the date a PRC application is made and the date of examination or decision, even though that was not the particular issue for either Metallo or Rastgou.
But it is otherwise helpful to more fully explore how some factors, like days in Canada that do not get counted toward RO compliance itself, can influence the decision making, and more particularly the nature of any benefit the PR might get from staying in Canada while an appeal is in progress.
So, let me conclude this by bringing up the more common if not obvious example. Among the more common scenarios is the PR who has had to stay abroad for financial reasons, mostly for a particular job, while the PR's family has settled in Canada. This is perhaps the most common situation in which staying pending an appeal can make the biggest difference. And while it is not stated as such in the IAD decisions, the difference is in how much negative weight continuing to live and work abroad has, and in effect removing that negative weight from the calculation by staying and at least appearing to have finally settled in Canada.
The latter is more than a mere example of how this particular factor can influence a specific case. It illustrates how intricately connected all the elements of the H&C case are, how dependent the weight one factor can carry is on other factors. Making predictions all the more difficult and speculative.
But the overriding take-away, the looming caveat, is that PRs still in a decision-making mode should NOT give much consideration to these nuances in the H&C case. The sooner the PR gets to Canada to stay, the better. Once in Canada, always better to wait to be in full RO compliance before making a PRC application. These nuances, the battle over some credit for this or that period of time, for the PR who is in breach of the RO, is only about making the case after the fact . . . about the adjudicating the issues, NOT about deciding how much longer to stay abroad or about when to apply for a new PR card.