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Leon

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I think we all want to help political refugees, people who are really prosecuted in their home countries for their opinions, religion etc. and whose life may be in danger. The only problem is that there are so many people who pretend to be refugees that really aren't and it is not easy to tell them apart. There are immigration consultants in some countries that actually advise people to go to Canada and claim refugee status as a way to immigrate. These fake refugees are a great toll on the system.
 

steerpike

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Phantom2013 said:
To SteerPike:

And you have one? What are you doing on this forum? If everyone thought your way then why don't we just open the borders and let everyone in. We have heard so much bull about "political refugees" that it never ends. If these people were leaving their country for a better life they wouldn't turn our Country into a country of illegals. I don't agree with their tactics and I don't think our Government should allow them in. They should have more stringent laws to stop it.
Strigent laws wont stop people who are already breaking the law. Maybe what you mean is more strigent punishments? Like locking people up for years for breaking immigration rules? It costs the taxpayer a lot more to jail someone than it does to let them work and contribute and be a part of Canadian society.

We are at a strange point in time in society. On the one hand, corporations and capital is totally global with very few restrictions. This has led to businesses moving their factories to whereever labour is the cheapest. It has completely decidmated the factories in Canada and led to thousands of sweatshops in China and other places.

But while the corporations are free to move wherever they want, the workers are not. The workers are stuck where they were born. This allows the capitalists to exploit the workers and pay them slave wages.

In the future, immigration will have to be more open and allow more people to move more freely in the world, just as corporation and capitalists now move freely. Only when both sides of equation are free to move will the exploitation end.

I believe in the right to mobility. We will never have an end to poverty without it, because the capitalists will always exploit the poorest nations for cheap labour.

Here is a paper about it: http://portal.unesco.org/shs/fr/files/10373/11636721241Borderlands_Article.pdf/Borderlands_Article.pdf
 

on-hold

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It's probably a mistake to come in and think that anyone's going to change their mind on this subject, but here are a few thoughts based on the States:

1) the term 'illegal' immigrant is a strange one -- many things are illegal, but we don't label the person doing them with that adjective. A driver with an expired license isn't an 'illegal' driver, a student who cheats on a test isn't an 'illegal' student, someone downloading a movie isn't an 'illegal' computer user.

2) I bet that just like in the U.S., a Canadian immigration violation is a civil penalty, not a criminal (or jailable) offense.

3) Everyone chooses what laws to follow -- I've broken many laws in my life and so has everyone who commented on this thread. It's commonly accepted that this does not make all of us criminals, we look at the effect of breaking the law. If someone stays here illegally and welds pipe in Fort McMurray and sends cash home to Thailand, frankly, I don't care. If that gets you all bothered, then you should advocate steep penalties for the people who employ them -- no one respects a system where the big lawbreaker gets off scott-free while the little guy gets crushed.

4) I totally agree with what Steerpike wrote above -- the idea that someone can move around the world freely or with great difficulty based on the chance of where they were born is a very difficult one for me to accept. This thing that we call 'illegal' immigration used to be called 'immigration'. The world is not a playground for first-worlders, people from everywhere have a right to travel and better themselves. Sometimes they have no choice but to do it against regulations -- I've known many people who did that, and many times they paid heavily for this, and the companies, people, and countries that let them be exploited paid nothing.
 

TiredCanadian

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Hey everyone, just looking for an updated way to report an illegal alien.
Would love some help seeing as I keep finding different numbers to call or email addresses to write

Thanks in advance
 

steerpike

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Can i use that to report Jason Kenney who changed the TFW program to allow employers to use it for human trafficking?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/foreign-worker-reports-death-threats-coercion-1.2630278

Guess not, eh?
 

SenoritaBella

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I don't know what the minister could have done to prevent or regulate the evil deeds some humans conjure up in their minds other than more oversight. Fortunately or unfortunately, we have many systems that rely on goodwill and individual honesty but some people don't subscribe to this though.
Since CIC/CBSA can now show up at work sites randomly to do checks, perhaps they should do random visits and also ask to see the payroll.
So sad overall.

steerpike said:
Can i use that to report Jason Kenney who changed the TFW program to allow employers to use it for human trafficking?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/foreign-worker-reports-death-threats-coercion-1.2630278

Guess not, eh?
 

user828

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steerpike said:
Can i use that to report Jason Kenney who changed the TFW program to allow employers to use it for human trafficking?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/foreign-worker-reports-death-threats-coercion-1.2630278

Guess not, eh?

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Mrs.Purcy

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Maple Syrup said:
I would like to elaborate on Medvedev's point. As a citizen, I don't necessarily agree with some of the negative views. I live in Toronto and I know about a dozen people who are here illegally. Everyone of them has a story. Most of them didn't come here to poison our society but to seek a better life/opportunities for themselves so that they may suppurt their relatives (wherever they came from). They are not bad people and they don't abuse the system so in return, I mind my own business.
Stop making excuses. I hate this mentality it is so flawed. This is an abuse of system.
 

user828

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Mrs.Purcy said:
Stop making excuses. I hate this mentality it is so flawed. This is an abuse of system.
Unless they are engaged in illegal activity, it could be someone who is genuinely stuck or have reasons to stay till they get their affairs sorted - lets face it, this is not USA - where ppl can live long years w/o immigration finding out. Canada is way too small, and doesn't have many loopholes for illegals and very few places who give jobs under the table and exploit the hell outta them.

Again, this is not for those who abuse the hell outta the system, do illegal stuff but for someone whoz visa expired or has some real bad situation
 

cocholat

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Hi there! I'm sorry, I know it will have nothing to do, but I'm new on the forum and I have a topic, but I don't know how to post it? Should there a number of days before you can post?

Again sorry for the off topic, thank you in the future answers :)


and sorry for my bad english i'm french :D
 

Ryan1234

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One country should have strict policy like GCC . Help them restore them for safe living but should maintain a distance so that they dont try to change the culture of the country who provided them rehabilitation...
 

torontosm

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Ryan1234 said:
One country should have strict policy like GCC . Help them restore them for safe living but should maintain a distance so that they dont try to change the culture of the country who provided them rehabilitation...
Unlike the GCC, Canada offers something called freedom, and what you are proposing violates everything that this great nation stands for.