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rejections in 2012

SandySurrey

Hero Member
Jan 5, 2011
667
14
Category........
Visa Office......
Delhi
NOC Code......
0631
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
15-May-2010
AOR Received.
22 Nov 2010
File Transfer...
Inprocess from 14May 2012
Med's Request
13-june-2013,
Med's Done....
21-June-2013, e cas line added on 04 July 2013
Passport Req..
Documents deposited 15 July 2013
VISA ISSUED...
17/09/2013, DM on 15/09/2013
Hi Seniors,

I have been observing on the forum , there are lots of rejections now days by visa offices, even though the applicant has submitted all the documents ,visa officer looked for minor things and had that mentally set to reject the file.

Some of the rejections has been done because of an error of judgement from visa officer.

My query is if it is happening because they have more supply then the demand?????

few of the people on the forum predicted this earlier as well that visa offices will reject a lot of pre June files.


Please give your views..
 

sho78

Hero Member
Sep 25, 2010
939
25
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
3112
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
8-7-2011 (recieved by CIO), CC charged on 16-Aug
Doc's Request.
Sent with the application
AOR Received.
PER received 29th Sept
IELTS Request
Sent with the application
Med's Request
07-03-2012
Med's Done....
12-03-2012, Recd by VO on 16-03-2012, Medical received line added 24-04-12
Passport Req..
14-May-2012
VISA ISSUED...
17-06-2012
SandySurrey said:
Hi Seniors,

I have been observing on the forum , there are lots of rejections now days by visa offices, even though the applicant has submitted all the documents ,visa officer looked for minor things and had that mentally set to reject the file.

Some of the rejections has been done because of an error of judgement from visa officer.

My query is if it is happening because they have more supply then the demand?????

few of the people on the forum predicted this earlier as well that visa offices will reject a lot of pre June files.


Please give your views..
Whatever rejections I have seen by VO is for pre june 2010 applicants because before june 201o applicants used to send the documents to VO not the CIO.

Have anybody know of any rejection by VO for post june 2010 applicant??
 

jo_1501

Hero Member
Jul 4, 2011
217
1
Category........
Visa Office......
kingston,jamaica
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Feb.14,2008
Doc's Request.
jan.10,2009
AOR Received.
oct.2008
I have observed the. Increase in rejections as well and I think they have too many applications unprocessed and tbey are trying to make their workloa easier. But most of the rejections are prejune2010. I haven't seen any old applicants under pre feb 2008 being rejecte.
 

SandySurrey

Hero Member
Jan 5, 2011
667
14
Category........
Visa Office......
Delhi
NOC Code......
0631
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
15-May-2010
AOR Received.
22 Nov 2010
File Transfer...
Inprocess from 14May 2012
Med's Request
13-june-2013,
Med's Done....
21-June-2013, e cas line added on 04 July 2013
Passport Req..
Documents deposited 15 July 2013
VISA ISSUED...
17/09/2013, DM on 15/09/2013
Hi,

I agree with you, they have been rejecting alot of pre June applications for one or another reason .

Its not fair for us who have been waiting for more than 2 years for PR


jo_1501 said:
I have observed the. Increase in rejections as well and I think they have too many applications unprocessed and tbey are trying to make their workloa easier. But most of the rejections are prejune2010. I haven't seen any old applicants under pre feb 2008 being rejecte.
 

Canadian Dreams

Hero Member
Jul 23, 2011
635
46
I agree, Applications are being rejected & Primarily 38 NOC list is at the receiving end.

This is unfortunate, unjustified & unfair on the part of CIC.
 

nano24482

Champion Member
Jan 30, 2010
1,082
63
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
7242
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28/02/2010
Doc's Request.
20/04/2010
AOR Received.
27/08/2010
File Transfer...
27/04/2010
I agree too.
Lot of rejections.
 

maran1976

Hero Member
Feb 22, 2010
527
37
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
0111
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14 April 2010
AOR Received.
26 Nov 2010 (2nd Aor Date)
Med's Request
28-02-2013
Med's Done....
6th March 2013
Interview........
hopefully waived
Passport Req..
Recvd by CHC Mar 13th
Here is what i have noticed in the past few months,

1. Reason for rejection: Adaptibility points for relative: Here most of the applicants who did not get the points have just send proof of PR or citizenship of their relative in Canada. They have not sent sufficient documents ( as mentioned in the checklist birth certificates etc etc) to prove how they are related and that they are residing in Canada. It is an error on the side of applicants, VO was right in not alloting points and rejecting the appliation.

2. Reason for rejection: Educational Qualifications: Some of the applicants have not obtained relevant educational qualifications for the NOC they have applied for. For eg, It does not sound convincing for a Computer Instructor, when he has a Bachelors Degree in Arts ( University recogonised ) and a diploma froma private computer training institute ( not recogonised !!) to claim points for experience etc.. Let me explain. I am software professional. I do have practical knowledge on how buildings are constructed. I cannot obtain a certificate from a private institute on interior design and apply as an architect .

Lets not forget, all the VO's of various countries, do look at all applications suspiciously, this is the only way, they can spot the fake ones. They do not give the applicants, benefit of doubt. nor do they give a chance to rectify the error..its not our fundamental right, lol.

We should take a lot of care in preparing the application and ensure that all the required documents are sent as mentioned in the checklist.
 

asif ghouri

Hero Member
Nov 2, 2009
249
4
Pakistan
Visa Office......
LONDON
NOC Code......
4131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
18-05-2010
Doc's Request.
21-10-2010
AOR Received.
21-10-2010
IELTS Request
already done
File Transfer...
17-01-2011
Med's Done....
Decision Made 13-04-2012
maran1976 said:
Here is what i have noticed in the past few months,

1. Reason for rejection: Adaptibility points for relative: Here most of the applicants who did not get the points have just send proof of PR or citizenship of their relative in Canada. They have not sent sufficient documents ( as mentioned in the checklist birth certificates etc etc) to prove how they are related and that they are residing in Canada. It is an error on the side of applicants, VO was right in not alloting points and rejecting the appliation.

2. Reason for rejection: Educational Qualifications: Some of the applicants have not obtained relevant educational qualifications for the NOC they have applied for. For eg, It does not sound convincing for a Computer Instructor, when he has a Bachelors Degree in Arts ( University recogonised ) and a diploma froma private computer training institute ( not recogonised !!) to claim points for experience etc.. Let me explain. I am software professional. I do have practical knowledge on how buildings are constructed. I cannot obtain a certificate from a private institute on interior design and apply as an architect .

Lets not forget, all the VO's of various countries, do look at all applications suspiciously, this is the only way, they can spot the fake ones. They do not give the applicants, benefit of doubt. nor do they give a chance to rectify the error..its not our fundamental right, lol.

We should take a lot of care in preparing the application and ensure that all the required documents are sent as mentioned in the checklist.
Dear good analysis but the most concerning thing is wrong calculation of points for example countryboy has been given 3 points on his spouse graduation and application was rejected. it is not fair.
 

Canadian Dreams

Hero Member
Jul 23, 2011
635
46
asif ghouri said:
Dear good analysis but the most concerning thing is wrong calculation of points for example countryboy has been given 3 points on his spouse graduation and application was rejected. it is not fair.
Point # 2 Education Qualifiations > I agree to an extent since there are numerous people who have applied in a particular NOC after they have gained good amount of experience in a reputed company. Their qualifications may differ.

E.g. is myself : I am not an engineering graduate but applied under NOC 0213 as a Data Center Manager. I have an experience of almost 12 years in a reputed Indian MNC which is known & famous for Data Centers Services. I am not managing 1 Data Center but 5. Rather I have built-up 3 Data Centers which were hired as empty rooms.

In my application, I have provided appreciation mails, promotion letters of past 5 - 6 years & I have BE/BTech/MCA engineers working in my team(28) reporting into me. Enough proof to support the position & NOC I am claiming. The VO do not even have to check with my Verticals & about my company since if he will just google it by name... Data Center will appear. I just have Cisco Certifications which are internationally recognised but never fetched me any Points, not even a single document i have provided is fake. VO will never have to ask for additional document to check if my job experience is Genuine.

Still 1 question haunts me all the time ...... Will my experience overtake my Qualifications or the VO will put objection to this while checking my file & documents ?

Although CIC website never asked for a specific qualification for a NOC & says such qualifications are "Usually Required" but the doubt remains that will this Qualification & NOC mismatch bring curtains to my "Canadian Dream" ..... :(
 

jo_1501

Hero Member
Jul 4, 2011
217
1
Category........
Visa Office......
kingston,jamaica
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Feb.14,2008
Doc's Request.
jan.10,2009
AOR Received.
oct.2008
My question is this with so many rejections will the backlogg finally be cleared this year,cause I need this to be over and I get my visa finally
 

SandySurrey

Hero Member
Jan 5, 2011
667
14
Category........
Visa Office......
Delhi
NOC Code......
0631
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
15-May-2010
AOR Received.
22 Nov 2010
File Transfer...
Inprocess from 14May 2012
Med's Request
13-june-2013,
Med's Done....
21-June-2013, e cas line added on 04 July 2013
Passport Req..
Documents deposited 15 July 2013
VISA ISSUED...
17/09/2013, DM on 15/09/2013
I have seen few cases like the one mentioned below the wife is graduate and has degree , instead of awarding 4 points for education, they have awarded 3 points , just to make sure that he is short of points .


asif ghouri said:
Dear good analysis but the most concerning thing is wrong calculation of points for example countryboy has been given 3 points on his spouse graduation and application was rejected. it is not fair.
 

aran

Star Member
May 18, 2010
174
2
Category........
Visa Office......
Colombo
NOC Code......
0213
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-04-2010
AOR Received.
16-06-2010
IELTS Request
Submitted with 2nd stage docs
File Transfer...
22-06-2010
Med's Request
16-01-2012
Med's Done....
04-02-2012
Interview........
Waived off
Passport Req..
29-07-2012
VISA ISSUED...
06-08-2012
LANDED..........
13-01-2013
maran1976 said:
Here is what i have noticed in the past few months,

1. Reason for rejection: Adaptibility points for relative: Here most of the applicants who did not get the points have just send proof of PR or citizenship of their relative in Canada. They have not sent sufficient documents ( as mentioned in the checklist birth certificates etc etc) to prove how they are related and that they are residing in Canada. It is an error on the side of applicants, VO was right in not alloting points and rejecting the appliation.

2. Reason for rejection: Educational Qualifications: Some of the applicants have not obtained relevant educational qualifications for the NOC they have applied for. For eg, It does not sound convincing for a Computer Instructor, when he has a Bachelors Degree in Arts ( University recogonised ) and a diploma froma private computer training institute ( not recogonised !!) to claim points for experience etc.. Let me explain. I am software professional. I do have practical knowledge on how buildings are constructed. I cannot obtain a certificate from a private institute on interior design and apply as an architect .

Lets not forget, all the VO's of various countries, do look at all applications suspiciously, this is the only way, they can spot the fake ones. They do not give the applicants, benefit of doubt. nor do they give a chance to rectify the error..its not our fundamental right, lol.

We should take a lot of care in preparing the application and ensure that all the required documents are sent as mentioned in the checklist.
Very much true and valida statement.
 

maran1976

Hero Member
Feb 22, 2010
527
37
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
0111
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14 April 2010
AOR Received.
26 Nov 2010 (2nd Aor Date)
Med's Request
28-02-2013
Med's Done....
6th March 2013
Interview........
hopefully waived
Passport Req..
Recvd by CHC Mar 13th
SandySurrey said:
I have seen few cases like the one mentioned below the wife is graduate and has degree , instead of awarding 4 points for education, they have awarded 3 points , just to make sure that he is short of points .
has the user countryboy mentioned what documents he sent in support of his wife's education ?

what I feel is they, they are strict on the 'completeness' of the application. If some supporting documents have not been sent, they are rejecting without asking toclarify, hence not awarding points...This may be due to the stress of the backlogs....
 

vraj31

Star Member
Oct 18, 2010
73
0
Category........
Visa Office......
ND
NOC Code......
1111
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
13TH ARPIL 2010
Doc's Request.
16TH JULY 2010
AOR Received.
6TH AUG 2010
IELTS Request
SENT WITH APPLICATION
File Transfer...
20 JULY 2010
Med's Request
8th Nov 2012
Med's Done....
22nd Nov 2012
Passport Req..
8th Nov 2012
VISA ISSUED...
6th Feb 2013
LANDED..........
4th May 2013
asif ghouri said:
Dear good analysis but the most concerning thing is wrong calculation of points for example countryboy has been given 3 points on his spouse graduation and application was rejected. it is not fair.
@asif ghouri

my wife have master degree 17 year's education + 1 year B.Ed total 18 year eduction but VO give only 4 point insted of 5 point...
and in my caips note 18 year's education mention...

regards,
vraj31