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REFUSED Pre-June 10 Cases (JDs Mismatch) Want to Appeal, Connect Here

zakout76

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Sep 1, 2009
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I think yes
And i mention that refuse as per caips
They reply i think before 10 days that my file with officer and not send any thing yet
 

destination canada

Hero Member
Jun 22, 2012
642
15
Category........
Visa Office......
LONDON
NOC Code......
1111
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
June 2010
Doc's Request.
October 2010
AOR Received.
Nova-Scotia, October 2010
File Transfer...
Full Docs to LVO - January 2011, Second AOR May-2011
Med's Request
Feb.2014
Med's Done....
Feb.2014
Passport Req..
PPR-1 & PPR-2 on June 2014
VISA ISSUED...
July 2014
LANDED..........
Dec 2014
Zee81 said:
Not only you most of the JDs mismatch refusals happened since start of April 2012......

Please share your details here so that i can add you in the list....


S.NO NOC Name APPL. TO CIC Ist AOR FULL DOCUMENTS 2ND AOR REFUSAL
1 0711 Zee81 25/03/2010 27/05/2010 5/7/2010 27/07/2010 22/05/2012
2 0213 Rizwan72 15/06/2010 17/10/2010 5/1/2011 10/7/2011 5/5/2012
3 0213 Azfarbaig 28/04/2010 8/10/2010 1/2/2011 27/6/2011 10/5/2012
4 4131 Khan200us 9/12/2009 5/3/2010 5/7/2010 30/7/2010 18/5/2012
5
6 4121 Navali 19/05/2010 23/10/2010 15/11/2010
7 Sherydesire 15/01/2010 15/03/2010 8/8/2010 15/02/2011 18/02/2012
8
9 0911/7242 Shahid22507 19/03/2010 19/05/2010 20/05/2010 27/07/2010 23/05/2012
10 Fishberger
11 4131/0111 Mahhdy 23/06/2010 22/10/2010 27/12/2010 28/02/2011 7/6/2012
Dear Brothers, please clarify one question that i have. at the time of getting refusal letter for JD's Mismatch, what was your e-cas status? RBVO to DM or In-process with date to DM???? i am in-process with date and i am a bit worried, please clarify.
 

Zee81

Hero Member
Jun 21, 2011
499
9
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
0711
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25-03-2010
Doc's Request.
20-May-2010 (Sent 05-07-2010)
AOR Received.
27-07-2010
IELTS Request
Provided with documents
File Transfer...
01-06-2010
Med's Request
10-11-2012 (Case Refused & Re-opened in Aug. 2012)
Med's Done....
21-11-2012
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
PPR-1 26-06-2013 ; PPR-2 30-07-2013
VISA ISSUED...
03-08-2013
LANDED..........
05-09-2013 (Calgary, AB)
destination canada said:
Dear Brothers, please clarify one question that i have. at the time of getting refusal letter for JD's Mismatch, what was your e-cas status? RBVO to DM or In-process with date to DM???? i am in-process with date and i am a bit worried, please clarify.
Mostly Our status was 'In Process' WITHOUT date..........

If your status is In Process with date and you have not received a refusal than at least you are safe being rejected due to JDs mismatch issue...... So Don't worry friend you are SAFE..... ;D ;D ;D
 

destination canada

Hero Member
Jun 22, 2012
642
15
Category........
Visa Office......
LONDON
NOC Code......
1111
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
June 2010
Doc's Request.
October 2010
AOR Received.
Nova-Scotia, October 2010
File Transfer...
Full Docs to LVO - January 2011, Second AOR May-2011
Med's Request
Feb.2014
Med's Done....
Feb.2014
Passport Req..
PPR-1 & PPR-2 on June 2014
VISA ISSUED...
July 2014
LANDED..........
Dec 2014
Zee81 said:
Mostly Our status was 'In Process' WITHOUT date..........

If your status is In Process with date and you have not received a refusal than at least you are safe being rejected due to JDs mismatch issue...... So Don't worry friend you are SAFE..... ;D ;D ;D
thanks a lot brother for your encouragement and best wishes, i also pray for you and hope you will also have good news soon.
 

kkhan870

Hero Member
Nov 21, 2008
784
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Guys and Girls please listen me carefully, you are not Canadian citizens so don't waste time and money to go to the courts, just write a good consideration letter and look for other options for your future it was meant to be and the lawyers will just earn money from you that's it
 

Morina

Star Member
Jun 20, 2012
66
0
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
kkhan870 said:
Guys and Girls please listen me carefully, you are not Canadian citizens so don't waste time and money to go to the courts, just write a good consideration letter and look for other options for your future it was meant to be and the lawyers will just earn money from you that's it
How to write that letter... what to write in it ???

HEEELLLPPPPP !!!!!
 

kkhan870

Hero Member
Nov 21, 2008
784
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Morina said:
How to write that letter... what to write in it ???

HEEELLLPPPPP !!!!!
Tell me the reason of the refusal and then can tell you with some humble points that you can consider
 

Morina

Star Member
Jun 20, 2012
66
0
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
kkhan870 said:
Tell me the reason of the refusal and then can tell you with some humble points that you can consider
Even though its been paused these days the applying for FSW... I dont care about that, I wanna apply and send them my documents..
I dont earn enough points (for 67, I get 61), I have experience as a Marketing Manager, Sales Manager and Paints supervisor.. I also have successfully completed certificates for Painter and decorator....

Thats what I was gonna write to them in order to be well economic established in Canada... but didnt know how to write it...

Thanx in advance

Morina
 

Zee81

Hero Member
Jun 21, 2011
499
9
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
0711
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25-03-2010
Doc's Request.
20-May-2010 (Sent 05-07-2010)
AOR Received.
27-07-2010
IELTS Request
Provided with documents
File Transfer...
01-06-2010
Med's Request
10-11-2012 (Case Refused & Re-opened in Aug. 2012)
Med's Done....
21-11-2012
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
PPR-1 26-06-2013 ; PPR-2 30-07-2013
VISA ISSUED...
03-08-2013
LANDED..........
05-09-2013 (Calgary, AB)
kkhan870 said:
Guys and Girls please listen me carefully, you are not Canadian citizens so don't waste time and money to go to the courts, just write a good consideration letter and look for other options for your future it was meant to be and the lawyers will just earn money from you that's it
I respect your thoughts but in this case we are having mass refusals due to JDs mismatch and all to reduce CIC's backlog........ this is unjust policy which they are adopting and we have to resist it, we should fight for justice........... Lawyers will have their charges and only those can hire them which can afford to do so.....

And remember one thing no matter what you write, CHC will NOT re-open your case if closed due to JDs mismatch issue..... I wrote a very comprehensive reconsideration letter explaining each and every performed duty in terms of NOC, even attached email inquires from reputed Canadian employers which wanted to hire me as soon as i get the landed immigrant status, but nobody bothered to even look at it seriously..... after a week i received an email that they cannot re-open my case........... I can assure you that if somebody (Program Manager) would have read my letter seriously he could not have found any reason or logic not to reconsider my case!!!!!

So dear its up to individuals that how much desperate they are to move to Canada and how much guts they have to Fight against injustice?? I am sure Canadian Courts are not biased towards their citizens, they provide justice to anyone which consult them.......
 

maran1976

Hero Member
Feb 22, 2010
527
37
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
0111
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14 April 2010
AOR Received.
26 Nov 2010 (2nd Aor Date)
Med's Request
28-02-2013
Med's Done....
6th March 2013
Interview........
hopefully waived
Passport Req..
Recvd by CHC Mar 13th
Zee81 said:
I respect your thoughts but in this case we are having mass refusals due to JDs mismatch and all to reduce CIC's backlog........ this is unjust policy which they are adopting and we have to resist it, we should fight for justice........... Lawyers will have their charges and only those can hire them which can afford to do so.....
Bro, mass wrt to this forum only ??
I am just wondering if they have released their latest data on no.of applications and no.of refusals.

Like I said in my previous post , a court can only ask the CIC to look into the file. The CIC , can again turn around and say, ' looked, still not eligible !!' The court cannot order CIC to grant someone a PR in FSW.

I am not justifying what they did, i am just saying, going to court/lawyer for JD mismatch, is a waste of money unless and untill the immigration act is ammended, with a tribunal to hear/accept appeal on rejected cases.

The comments, of the VO are very highly upheld. You can go to court on the proceedure/process but not the decision, view of the officer!
anyways, my honest request to people is dont waste money on lawyers/consultants. move forward, look at other countries !

During immigraton/visa process, just bcoz we have all documents ready, doesnt meen, we are guaranteed a visa. The officers have a final say ' i am satisfied/ i am not satisfied'
 

Zee81

Hero Member
Jun 21, 2011
499
9
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
0711
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25-03-2010
Doc's Request.
20-May-2010 (Sent 05-07-2010)
AOR Received.
27-07-2010
IELTS Request
Provided with documents
File Transfer...
01-06-2010
Med's Request
10-11-2012 (Case Refused & Re-opened in Aug. 2012)
Med's Done....
21-11-2012
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
PPR-1 26-06-2013 ; PPR-2 30-07-2013
VISA ISSUED...
03-08-2013
LANDED..........
05-09-2013 (Calgary, AB)
maran1976 said:
Bro, mass wrt to this forum only ??
I am just wondering if they have released their latest data on no.of applications and no.of refusals.

Like I said in my previous post , a court can only ask the CIC to look into the file. The CIC , can again turn around and say, ' looked, still not eligible !!' The court cannot order CIC to grant someone a PR in FSW.

I am not justifying what they did, i am just saying, going to court/lawyer for JD mismatch, is a waste of money unless and untill the immigration act is ammended, with a tribunal to hear/accept appeal on rejected cases.

The comments, of the VO are very highly upheld. You can go to court on the proceedure/process but not the decision, view of the officer!
anyways, my honest request to people is dont waste money on lawyers/consultants. move forward, look at other countries !

During immigraton/visa process, just bcoz we have all documents ready, doesnt meet, we are guaranteed a visa. The officers have a final say ' i am satisfied/ i am not satisfied'
I respect your view.... Mass refusals not with respect to this forum only but if you go through various forums (specifically Pakistani forums) you will come to know that about 50% of MI-1 Pre-june 2010 cases have been rejected based on JDs mismatch issue........... and do remember that its the Visa Officer's obligation to carry a FAIR assessment of all applications and if he is not satisfied, he HAS TO PROVIDE undeniable / logical and strong reasons for refusal...... isn't it????? and if the reasons are not strong and logical, can these not be challenged in court??? Is it a FAIR assessment which they are doing to reduce backlog and close the files as soon as possible effortlessly???

I have seen one person which got the refusal since his experience letter did not contain a date of issue at the top, it was at the end of last paragraph..... is this a Valid reason for refusal??? Look at my case 05 experience letters provided...... regarding 04 letters the VO is saying that sufficient JDs are not performed and for 01 he is saying that the JDs are too much inspired from NOC???? what we should do to convince them??? not one way or the other they are accepting to process the cases........

Yes the court can only order CHC to reconsider or review the case based on its decision and give a FAIR assessment....... and one needs a strong case to let the court give an order in his favour...... so if you consider your case to be Genuine and strong enough, feel that a fair assessment has not been done by the Visa Officer what is the harm in going to court??? and of-course you have to spend money.............
 

zakout76

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Sep 1, 2009
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i send e-mail after DM come on line and before i recived the caips the date i recived reply 13 jun12 says/

Dear Sir,

Please note a letter has not been sent and the file is with an officer.

KLH

and after i recived the caips i sent reconsidration letter on 21jun, but still no reply from london

and also i didint recived the refuse letter .

inshallah good news

b.regards

zakout
 

Zee81

Hero Member
Jun 21, 2011
499
9
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
0711
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25-03-2010
Doc's Request.
20-May-2010 (Sent 05-07-2010)
AOR Received.
27-07-2010
IELTS Request
Provided with documents
File Transfer...
01-06-2010
Med's Request
10-11-2012 (Case Refused & Re-opened in Aug. 2012)
Med's Done....
21-11-2012
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
PPR-1 26-06-2013 ; PPR-2 30-07-2013
VISA ISSUED...
03-08-2013
LANDED..........
05-09-2013 (Calgary, AB)
zakout76 said:
i send e-mail after DM come on line and before i recived the caips the date i recived reply 13 jun12 says/

Dear Sir,

Please note a letter has not been sent and the file is with an officer.

KLH

and after i recived the caips i sent reconsidration letter on 21jun, but still no reply from london

and also i didint recived the refuse letter .

inshallah good news

b.regards

zakout
Its quite confusing...... why they want to say that your application is still with the Visa Officer once ur CAIPS clarifies that its a rejection ::) ::) ::)
 

Alwani

Full Member
Nov 15, 2009
26
0
124
Category........
Visa Office......
LONDON
NOC Code......
0213
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
01-06-2010
Doc's Request.
21-10-2010
Zee81 said:
Updated list;



S.NO NOC Name INITIAL APPLICATION TO CIC Ist AOR FULL DOCUMENTS 2ND AOR REFUSAL
1 0711 Zee81 25/03/10 27/05/10 5/7/2010 27/07/10 22/05/12
2 0213 Rizwan72 15/06/10 17/10/10 5/1/2011 10/7/2011 5/5/2012
3 0213 Azfarbaig 28/04/10 8/10/2010 1/2/2011 27/6/2011 10/5/2012
4 0213 AkberAlwani 07/04/10 8/10/2010 1/2/2011 27/04/2011 30/05/2012

Please tell me how to approach lawyer and file the case to court, as I have few days left only.
4 0213 AkberAlwani 07/04/10 8/10/2010 1/2/2011 27/04/2011 30/05/2012