Refusal of Student Permit

[praveen1989]

Hello everyone!

My name is Praveen. I am an Indian citizen currently working in U.A.E. My application for student permit in Canada has been refused by the embassy because:

The Immigration officer is not satisfied that I will leave Canada at the end of my stay and I received a paper showing some factors:

Your Travel History- ( I haven't traveled to Canada in my entire life)
Your Immigration Status- ( I didn't understand that question)
Your family ties in Canada and the country of residence- ( I don't have family or relatives living in Canada and I showed the proof that my family is living in U.A.E)
Purpose of visit - (it's understood)
Your current employment situation - ( I didn't understand that question)
Your personal assets and financial status - ( My father is sponsoring for my entire stay in Canada and showed all the documents and still got refused)

Can anyone help with this?

Thank You

 

[Neez]

I would say that the main problem here is the fact that you're staying and working in a country which is not your home country, and for the visa officer this is a clear sign about lots of things.

Firstly, staying in a country other than your home country will make the visa officer think that you don't have strong ties to your home country, which means you'll probably try to stay in Canada as well.
Secondly, the fact that you're working in a country other than your home country will make the visa officer think that there aren't any job prospects in your home country otherwise you wouldn't have left it in the first place.

 

[SyedZaidi1]

I would say that the main problem here is the fact that you're staying and working in a country which is not your home country, and for the visa officer this is a clear sign about lots of things.

Firstly, staying in a country other than your home country will make the visa officer think that you don't have strong ties to your home country, which means you'll probably try to stay in Canada as well.
Secondly, the fact that you're working in a country other than your home country will make the visa officer think that there aren't any job prospects in your home country otherwise you wouldn't leave it in the first place.

Exactly!

 

[Regina]

Neez said the precise thing about the reasons for your refusal.

I would like only to clear other small things that you did not understand
Your Travel History- they a not talking about your trips to Canada but about you trips to other developed countries. What they would like to see that other countries like UK or Germany issued you visitor visa, you went there on vacation AND CAME BACK to UAE.

And you father assets are not YOUR assets. There is nothing of yours that could tie to your home county.

 

[praveen1989]

Thanks for the reply!

Can you advice me the next step?

I have mentioned my travel history of past five years in the application form.

Shall I make a bank account and transfer my father's money and reapply for visa?
What if they ask me the source of fund? Shall I give my father's letter?

My father's assets are not my assets agreed! So students who doesn't have a personal properties or assets, how do they apply?

Thanks again!

 

[Regina]

You should look at the whole picture. Not only at assets of other students.

Your main concern should be the reasons Neez described. Your travel to UK or transferring money to your account are not a big help because

the main problem here is the fact that you're staying and working in a country which is not your home country, and for the visa officer this is a clear sign about lots of things.

Firstly, staying in a country other than your home country will make the visa officer think that you don't have strong ties to your home country, which means you'll probably try to stay in Canada as well.
Secondly, the fact that you're working in a country other than your home country will make the visa officer think that there aren't any job prospects in your home country otherwise you wouldn't leave it in the first place.

 

[s.gupta1487]

get a student loan from India
apply from India
show no-obligation letter from ur employer that they hv no issues in sending u to Canada for studies..
If married, then no-obligation letter from spouse.

I am Indian citizen, was living in Ireland but applied from Ireland and got visa in two weeks.....now I'm PR

 

[Neez]

Regina is right, the visa officer gave you a whole list of reasons why he rejected your visa, you should consider all these reasons not just financial related ones.

And yes you're right, almost all students show their parents assets but these students are usually fresh graduates, the visa officer knows that they haven't been working and thus they don't have any assets in their names. Your case is different, the fact that you have been working -I don't know for how many years- and still showed your parents assets rather than yours will probably raise questions from the visa officer point of view, this combination of working and not having any assets is never good, because it usually makes the visa officer think that things aren't just working for this person in his country so he is trying to escape and stay in another country, thus the reason of personal assets, visa officer thinks you have nothing to which you will return. Which is not the case for students you talked about, they have nothing because they're still studying. Anyway, the visa officer already knows that almost all students applying from less developed countries than Canada will try to stay in Canada after graduation, but they can't reject their visas based on that (otherwise, they will be rejecting all applications and no international student will ever be given a study permit for studies in Canada) they look for evidence and in your case, the evidence is right there.

Nevertheless, lots of people with a situation similar to yours get visas but they're usually applying from their home countries meaning that they have been working in their home countries which can be considered as strong ties to home country and these people would include a job offer letter from their employers indicating that the program they want to go for would be a great help to them when they return home. Having family in home country is also considered strong ties, especially parents.

As for your case, it is a little bit complicated because it seems to me that the combination of all the reasons I mentioned above stands against your case.

For the points you said you didn't understand:

Your Immigration Status- This means that you're staying in a country other than your home country, which is never a good thing when applying for visa to Canada.

Your current employment situation- Again this means that you're working in a country other than your home country, and that you'll probably try to do the same in Canada.

In my opinion, all the reasons that the visa officer gave you are related in one way or another to the fact that you're staying in another country. So maybe you should change that, you could go back to your home country and stay or even work there for a while then reapply, maybe that would help you.

 

[Regina]

was living in Ireland but applied from Ireland and got visa in two weeks.....

The devil in the details, as usual.

You lived and worked legally in IRELAND . Not in UAE/Philippines/Malaysia , for God sake.

 

[praveen1989]

Thank You for the information.... I'm 24 years old...According to U.A.E rule parents cannot sponsor their male children after they attain the age of 21. I don't have any relatives in my home country so I picked up some random job for a small salary only to stay in UAE because my parents are working in UAE for more than 24 years.

 

[Regina]

OK, let's start from the beginning. You got enrolled in what program in Canada in terms of degree: diploma, bachelor or masters ? What previous education do you have?

Because it seems that you did not understand even if you said you did:

Purpose of visit - (it's understood)

That means VO does not see how that Canadian program can help you in your career in home country or UAE. So from their point of view your current situation with work and previous education does not support your idea to go to Canada to study.

Here an example. If a person with a BBA from home country and 4 years of work experience in the Bank Back office decided that he would like to switch to Retail Banking and to get ahead of others who already work in Retail Banking he needs a Post-Bac in Finance from western university. He studied options in Europe, Australia, US and Canada and was able to make a comparison of all those programs and to show to VO why program in Canada suits him better.

However, if he would like to get a post bac or masters in chemistry in Canada to change his occupation VO would not understand his "purpose of visit".

I agree with Neez. IF you wish to change your situation you need to go back to India. I am sure you have their close relatives who could help you at the beginning. Besides, if you were ready to leave your parent for Canada it will not be more difficult to leave them for your home country.

Find there a proper job in a field of your education, work for a year, and in meantime look at other countries with a good immigration policy: Australia, NZ and even Holland (English is their second language there and they have a LOT of programs taught in English.). http://www.mastersportal.eu/

Maybe even take a trip to Europe and come back to India.
Perhaps, those countries will be not so "obsessed" as Canada is with your parents in UAE.

You are 24 . Old enough to do something with your life without clenching to your parents and young enough for starting from scratches.

 

[asim abbas]

Always there is one of main reason being any application refused not all.
Tell us, which college and course did you apply for?

 

[txboyscout]

Hello everyone!
My name is Praveen. I am an Indian citizen currently working in U.A.E. My application for student permit in Canada has been refused by the embassy because:
The Immigration officer is not satisfied that I will leave Canada at the end of my stay and I received a paper showing some factors:
Your Travel History- ( I haven't traveled to Canada in my entire life)
Your Immigration Status- ( I didn't understand that question)
Your family ties in Canada and the country of residence- ( I don't have family or relatives living in Canada and I showed the proof that my family is living in U.A.E)
Purpose of visit - (it's understood)
Your current employment situation - ( I didn't understand that question)
Your personal assets and financial status - ( My father is sponsoring for my entire stay in Canada and showed all the documents and still got refused)
Can anyone help with this?
Thank You

Ok as someone who has lived and worked in the UAE before he came to Canada, I feel like I can add to this discussion

The biggest problem I see with your application is your employment. It seems like you have accepted menial employment just to be able to qualify for a UAE resident visa and are still financially dependent on your parents. This proves to the VO that you are at a high risk for staying in Canada illegally after you finish your studies (or drop out of school to work illegally). In order to overcome this, you and your parents will have to provide proof of strong assets both in India and in the UAE.

Your ties to India. Most expats living in the UAE, have strong ties to their homeland. They have property and a family home there. The VO knows this. They know that according to UAE law, an expat can only stay as long as he remains employed with his sponsor. So if you cannot prove strong ties to India, the VO know that you have no place to go if you lose your job and thus are at a greater risk of staying in Canada.

Lastly, if you do not have a history of travel to developed countries, no country wants to risk becoming the first one to try giving you a visa—for fear that you will not return.

In order to build a successful application you will need to establish strong ties to India (property and assets in India), and get yourself a positive travel history. Travel for a short vacation to the UK and Australia. Prove to CIC that you can be “trusted” with a temp visa to enter Canada.

The above may not sound fair and is a costly proposition but that is what you have to do.

 

[praveen1989]

The course is Professional Pilot from an aviation school in Boundary Bay, Vancouver. BC. I passed my fitness test and got admission to that school. I didn't choose any aviation college in UAE because there are only two aviation colleges that has high standard of training quality and the fees come up to $200,000-$300,000. So why should I spend that much amount if I have an option to study for $50,000 in Canada? and there is another reason too...I want to gain experience in flying in risky weather condition and that will develop my career.
In UAE and India the climate is sunny always.

I was born and bought up in UAE. In 2009 I completed my high school degree and joined for a work immediately, after a year I joined for B.sc degree. It was very difficult for me to manage both work and studies so I've resigned my job to concentrate on my studies. After resigning from the job, my college didn't provide me a student visa. So I went back to India and came on visit visa to UAE. The visit visa is for 90 days and once the visit visa is over, I need to exit the country for 30 days to be eligible to obtain a new visit visa. I spend almost 2 years travelling up and down on visit visa to complete my degree. So I thought whatever happens I'm going to join some random job to stay in UAE and picked one.

I had traveled to Singapore, Malaysia and Thailand and showed them the history of travel. Come on, these are also developed countries.

So for strong ties what I have to do?

 

[Singh.0]

I'm 18. I did my schooling in UAE but I'm a citizen of India. Will it effect my visa?