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vraj31

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today i received letter from NDVO for refusal

point calculation as per letter

AGE : 10
EDUCATION : 20
IELTS : 6
EXP : 21
ADEPTABLILITY : 9 [ MY WIFE IS M.SC WITH FIRST CLASS & B.ED WITH DIST AND MY WIFE'S SISTER & BROTHER ARE STAY AT CANADA ] LAST 5 YEAR I SENT ALL DOCUMENT OF EDUCATION OF MY WIFE WITH NOTARY AND ALSO SEND PROOF OF RELATIVE [ PASSPORT / MARR CERTI / PR CARD / OF MY WIFE'S SISTER AND PASSPORT / PR CARD OF MY WIFE'S BROTHER ]

SO 10 POINT AS PER MY CALCULATION BUT IN LETTER ONLY 9 POINT..

PLS GIVE ME REPLY NOW FURTHER STEP FOR PROVE VISA OFFICER FOR MY ADEPTIBILITY POINTS...

regards,
vraj31
 

amerian

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wat i believe its 09 points but u should go for appeal, 10 points is for atleast 17 yrs education with masters in hons or m.phil etc for double graduation or double masters the points remain 4 for pak nd india but dont lose hope go for appeal i recommend.
 

Mancilla

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This is what the CIC website states for Adaptability Points:

Spouse or common-law partner’s level of education
Secondary school (high school) diploma or less: 0 points
A one-year diploma, trade certificate, apprenticeship or university degree, and at least 12 years of full-time or full-time equivalent studies: 3 points
A two or three-year diploma, trade certificate, apprenticeship or university degree, and at least 14 years of full-time or full-time equivalent studies: 4 points
A master’s degree or PhD and at least 17 years of full-time or full-time equivalent studies: 5 points


Previous work in Canada
You, or your accompanying spouse or common-law partner, have completed a minimum of one year of full-time work in Canada on a valid work permit : 5 points

Previous study in Canada
You, or your accompanying spouse or common-law partner, have completed a program of full-time study of at least two years’ duration at a post-secondary institution in Canada. You must have done this after you were 17 years old and with a valid study permit.

There is no need to have obtained a degree or diploma for these two years of study to earn
these points: 5 points

Arranged Employment in Canada
You can claim five additional points if you have arranged employment as described in the Arranged Employment selection factor: 5 points

Relatives in Canada
You, or your accompanying spouse or common-law partner, have a relative (parent, grandparent, child, grandchild, child of a parent, sibling, child of a grandparent, aunt or uncle, or grandchild of a parent, niece or nephew) who is residing in Canada and is a Canadian citizen or permanent resident: 5 points

I guess, CIC might have not considered, B.Ed with Distance Edu as full time education. Maybe you should write a letter or email to clarify why they have given 4 points for your spouse's education.
 

nashe_31

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vraj31 said:
today i received letter from NDVO for refusal

point calculation as per letter

AGE : 10
EDUCATION : 20
IELTS : 6
EXP : 21
ADEPTABLILITY : 9 [ MY WIFE IS M.SC WITH FIRST CLASS & B.ED WITH DIST AND MY WIFE'S SISTER & BROTHER ARE STAY AT CANADA ] LAST 5 YEAR I SENT ALL DOCUMENT OF EDUCATION OF MY WIFE WITH NOTARY AND ALSO SEND PROOF OF RELATIVE [ PASSPORT / MARR CERTI / PR CARD / OF MY WIFE'S SISTER AND PASSPORT / PR CARD OF MY WIFE'S BROTHER ]

SO 10 POINT AS PER MY CALCULATION BUT IN LETTER ONLY 9 POINT..

PLS GIVE ME REPLY NOW FURTHER STEP FOR PROVE VISA OFFICER FOR MY ADEPTIBILITY POINTS...

regards,
vraj31
Hi,
Am very sorry to know that.
If Your wife has 17 years of Education, you should have got 10 points.
Contact the VO through Email if it is so.

Regards,
Nashe
 

vraj31

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AOR Received.
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IELTS Request
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Med's Done....
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@MANCILLA

I APPLIED CAIPS ON APRIL 2011 AND IT SHOWS 17 YEAR OF EDUCATION..
SO HOW CAN IT POSSIBLE FOR 4 POINT...

regards,
vrajesh



Mancilla said:
This is what the CIC website states for Adaptability Points:

Spouse or common-law partner's level of education
Secondary school (high school) diploma or less: 0 points
A one-year diploma, trade certificate, apprenticeship or university degree, and at least 12 years of full-time or full-time equivalent studies: 3 points
A two or three-year diploma, trade certificate, apprenticeship or university degree, and at least 14 years of full-time or full-time equivalent studies: 4 points
A master's degree or PhD and at least 17 years of full-time or full-time equivalent studies: 5 points


Previous work in Canada
You, or your accompanying spouse or common-law partner, have completed a minimum of one year of full-time work in Canada on a valid work permit : 5 points

Previous study in Canada
You, or your accompanying spouse or common-law partner, have completed a program of full-time study of at least two years' duration at a post-secondary institution in Canada. You must have done this after you were 17 years old and with a valid study permit.

There is no need to have obtained a degree or diploma for these two years of study to earn
these points: 5 points

Arranged Employment in Canada
You can claim five additional points if you have arranged employment as described in the Arranged Employment selection factor: 5 points

Relatives in Canada
You, or your accompanying spouse or common-law partner, have a relative (parent, grandparent, child, grandchild, child of a parent, sibling, child of a grandparent, aunt or uncle, or grandchild of a parent, niece or nephew) who is residing in Canada and is a Canadian citizen or permanent resident: 5 points

I guess, CIC might have not considered, B.Ed with Distance Edu as full time education. Maybe you should write a letter or email to clarify why they have given 4 points for your spouse's education.
 

giogenre

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vraj31 said:
today i received letter from NDVO for refusal

point calculation as per letter

AGE : 10
EDUCATION : 20
IELTS : 6
EXP : 21
ADEPTABLILITY : 9 [ MY WIFE IS M.SC WITH FIRST CLASS & B.ED WITH DIST AND MY WIFE'S SISTER & BROTHER ARE STAY AT CANADA ] LAST 5 YEAR I SENT ALL DOCUMENT OF EDUCATION OF MY WIFE WITH NOTARY AND ALSO SEND PROOF OF RELATIVE [ PASSPORT / MARR CERTI / PR CARD / OF MY WIFE'S SISTER AND PASSPORT / PR CARD OF MY WIFE'S BROTHER ]

SO 10 POINT AS PER MY CALCULATION BUT IN LETTER ONLY 9 POINT..

PLS GIVE ME REPLY NOW FURTHER STEP FOR PROVE VISA OFFICER FOR MY ADEPTIBILITY POINTS...

regards,
vraj31
Is your score for IELTS = 6? just curious...

In case your IELTS is 6 points, you can improve this score on the next time you apply in case your appeal will not be successful. :)
 

Mancilla

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Again, I guess, CIC has acknowledged that your spouse has 17 yrs of education. But the B.Ed Dist Edu is
not full time. Hence only 4 points.

I request you to write a letter/ email to CIC requesting them to explain how they have allocated 9 points for your spouse's education. That'll clear all doubts.
 

Apirant

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Raj,

Hope PG was Full-time and it was not part-time OR Distance learning.

Regards
Aspirant.
 

vraj31

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IELTS Request
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Med's Done....
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Passport Req..
8th Nov 2012
VISA ISSUED...
6th Feb 2013
LANDED..........
4th May 2013
@mancilla

B.SC - 3YEAR
M.SC -2 YEAR [ MASTER DEGREE & FULL TIME STUDY ]
B.ED - 1 YEAR

regards,
vraj31


Mancilla said:
Again, I guess, CIC has acknowledged that your spouse has 17 yrs of education. But the B.Ed Dist Edu is
not full time. Hence only 4 points.

I request you to write a letter/ email to CIC requesting them to explain how they have allocated 9 points for your spouse's education. That'll clear all doubts.
 

nashe_31

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Dec 6, 2010
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02-04-2014
File Transfer...
10-04-2014
Med's Request
17-08-2012
Med's Done....
08-12-2013 Re-Med 19-02-2015
Passport Req..
Got an email for bio page of PPs
VISA ISSUED...
DM 06 May, 2015. InShaAllah Soon!
LANDED..........
InShaAllah Soon!
Mancilla said:
I request you to write a letter/ email to CIC requesting them to explain how they have allocated 9 points for your spouse's education. That'll clear all doubts.
That's right, contact the VO ASAP, and i hope everything is going to be alright.
Wish u best of luck.

Nashe
 

CPKJ

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Hello Friends
My cousin received refusal Letter because VO did not award him adaptability points while her mother in law is candian citizen and he sent PR and Health insurance card as her proof of residency in Canada .What should he do? whether for appeal of reopening or for judicial review?
COMMENTS AND ADVICES ARE HIGHLY APPRECIATED
 

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vraj31 said:
today i received letter from NDVO for refusal

point calculation as per letter

AGE : 10
EDUCATION : 20
IELTS : 6
EXP : 21
ADEPTABLILITY : 9 [ MY WIFE IS M.SC WITH FIRST CLASS & B.ED WITH DIST AND MY WIFE'S SISTER & BROTHER ARE STAY AT CANADA ] LAST 5 YEAR I SENT ALL DOCUMENT OF EDUCATION OF MY WIFE WITH NOTARY AND ALSO SEND PROOF OF RELATIVE [ PASSPORT / MARR CERTI / PR CARD / OF MY WIFE'S SISTER AND PASSPORT / PR CARD OF MY WIFE'S BROTHER ]

SO 10 POINT AS PER MY CALCULATION BUT IN LETTER ONLY 9 POINT..

PLS GIVE ME REPLY NOW FURTHER STEP FOR PROVE VISA OFFICER FOR MY ADEPTIBILITY POINTS...

regards,
vraj31
God Forbid ,If you get a letter in the mail from Canada Immigration advising you that your application for Canadian immigration was refused, do not panic! You have options.

You may be eligible to Appeal your Canadian Immigration Application Refusal to the Federal Court of Canada within a certain period after you were notified of the refusal by Canada Immigration.
You may be eligible to Appeal your Canadian Immigration Application Refusal to the Immigration Adjudication Division (IAD) within a certain period of after your application was refused by Canada Immigration.
You may be able to make a request for Restoration to the Case Processing Centre (CPC) after being notified if the refusal.

Which option is right for you:

It depends on a number of factors such as the nature of the case. Is it a Skilled Worker Application, Canadian Sponsorship Application or Canadian Work Visa refusal?

And it also depends on where the Canadian immigration application was filed and processed. Was your Canadian immigration application filed within Canada or at a Canadian Consulate or Embassy outside of Canada?
Why did my Canadian Immigration Application get Refused?

Generally refusals for Canadian immigration applications do not just happen. When applications for Canadian immigration are submitted to Canada immigration, an immigration officer is responsible for reviewing the application and making an assessment about whether the application should be approved or denied. The immigration officer has guidelines for making decisions on immigration cases. These guidelines are found in the Immigration Regulations as well as Immigration Manuals.

When applications do not meet the various standards and criteria set out in the Immigration Regulations and Manuals, then the likely result is a refusal. However, in many cases, Canadian immigration officers make mistakes in their decisions. They often are too strict in their interpretation of the guidelines or they simply fail to review all the documentation and information in an application. Sometimes applicants are called for a personal interview and the immigration officer does not believe the applicant is credible or trustworthy.

Whatever the reason for the refusal, it is important to act very quickly once you are notified that your case was denied. You should then seek out a qualified and experienced Canadian immigration lawyer who is licensed. If your case has merit, then an Immigration Appeal should be considere
sourcehttp://www.visaplace.com/canada-immigration/immigration-refusal.php

Canadian Immigration Application Refusal

It can be devastating to learn that your application to reside in Canada has been refused.

Fortunately, you may have recourse. A Canada immigration officer's decision to refuse an application may be challenged if that decision was wrong in fact or in law, or if that decision is not in accordance with the principles of procedural fairness.

Family Class sponsors have an additional recourse. They can ask that a refusal be reversed by raising humanitarian and compassionate considerations.

You may retain our law firm to provide you with a detailed analysis of the refusal decision. We will also advise you as to which remedies may be available to reverse the refusal decision.

If warranted in your particular situation, we can do the following:

Reconsideration letters– If the refusal was based on an error in fact or in law, and/or if that decision was not in accordance with the principles of procedural fairness, write to the Program Manager of the Canadian Visa Office to point out the errors and to request a reconsideration of the refusal decision;

Appeal – Wrongful refusals may, in certain instances, be appealed to the Federal Court of Canada or to the appropriate provincial court or, in the case of family sponsorships, to the Immigration Appeal Division.

http://www.canadavisa.com/canadian-immigration-application-refusal.html

APPEAL OPTIONS (CANADIAN IMMIGRATION)

The formal place that immigration appeals are made is the Federal Court of Canada. Most people choose to be represented by a lawyer at Federal Court.

The Federal Court is a court that has judges who are lawyers. Federal Court is strict, formal and has more complicated procedures. Federal Court involves a two step process. The first step is to file an appeal to get leave which is done by arguing your case by filing documents with no actual appearance at the Federal Court. In order to get leave to appeal you must prove there was a serious mistake made by the visa officer at the interview. If you succeed and get leave, you get the permission of the Federal court to go to step two which is the actual appearance at Federal Court in person to argue the case.

A typical case would be a skilled worker or business (investor, entrepreneur, self-employed) immigration applicant who goes to the interview at the Canadian Consulate or Embassy overseas, meets with a visa officer and fails the interview. The visa officer will issue a rejection letter setting out the reasons for the rejection. The applicant has a limited number of days (60) to respond and file a notice to commence a court action to appeal the case. If you miss the deadline generally you are not able to file an appeal. There are certain special circumstances and legal arguments that can be made that will allow you to continue even if you miss the deadline.

The general procedure for a Federal Court appeal is after the applicant files the Notice to start the action, the Respondent who is Citizenship and Immigration Canada (“CIC”) files an appearance confirming they will oppose the appeal. The applicant receives a copy of the visa officer's files containing documents filed and most importantly a copy of the interview notes made by the visa officer that have been inputted into the government computer. After a review of this material the applicant will file an applicant's court record containing the written argument, photocopies of legal cases and law supporting the argument and the applicant's affidavit that is a written document telling the applicant's story.

The respondent CIC is represented by the Department of Justice (“DOJ”) and they file their argument. The applicant has a chance to respond to the points made by the respondent in the respondent's argument.

If leave is granted the Applicant gets to go to Federal Court to actually argue the case in person. This usually takes approximately 12-18 months from the date of commencing to appeal to get to Federal Court to argue the case in person. If no leave is granted the appeal is ended.

If you fail at Federal Court, you can also appeal to Federal Court of Appeal. If you fail at Federal Court of Appeal, you can also appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada. For both Federal Court of Appeal and Supreme Court of Canada you first must get leave to appeal.
 

Mancilla

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vraj31 said:
@ mancilla

B.SC - 3YEAR
M.SC -2 YEAR [ MASTER DEGREE & FULL TIME STUDY ]
B.ED - 1 YEAR

regards,
vraj31
OK. Getting a clearer picture but still need some clarifications:

Middle & High School --> 10 yrs
P.U.C --> 2 yrs
B.Sc --> 3 yrs
M.Sc --> 2 yrs

Are all the above FULL TIME? If so, then I think CIC may have made a mistake or mis-understood the
qualifications and awarded 4 points?
Again the best, is to understand why CIC has given 9 points. So write a letter/email to NDVO to get
more clarifications regarding the same.
 

thebeast184

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What is a PUC?

Rod

Mancilla said:
OK. Getting a clearer picture but still need some clarifications:

Middle & High School --> 10 yrs
P.U.C --> 2 yrs
B.Sc --> 3 yrs
M.Sc --> 2 yrs

Are all the above FULL TIME? If so, then I think CIC may have made a mistake or mis-understood the
qualifications and awarded 4 points?
Again the best, is to understand why CIC has given 9 points. So write a letter/email to NDVO to get
more clarifications regarding the same.
 

vraj31

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Oct 18, 2010
73
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Category........
Visa Office......
ND
NOC Code......
1111
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
13TH ARPIL 2010
Doc's Request.
16TH JULY 2010
AOR Received.
6TH AUG 2010
IELTS Request
SENT WITH APPLICATION
File Transfer...
20 JULY 2010
Med's Request
8th Nov 2012
Med's Done....
22nd Nov 2012
Passport Req..
8th Nov 2012
VISA ISSUED...
6th Feb 2013
LANDED..........
4th May 2013
Master Qorax

give me reply...

Today i received letter from NDVO for refusal

point calculation as per letter

AGE : 10
EDUCATION : 20
IELTS : 6
EXP : 21
ADEPTABLILITY : 9 [ MY WIFE IS M.SC WITH FIRST CLASS & B.ED WITH DIST AND MY WIFE'S SISTER & BROTHER ARE STAY AT CANADA ] LAST 5 YEAR I SENT ALL DOCUMENT OF EDUCATION OF MY WIFE WITH NOTARY AND ALSO SEND PROOF OF RELATIVE [ PASSPORT / MARR CERTI / PR CARD / OF MY WIFE'S SISTER AND PASSPORT / PR CARD OF MY WIFE'S BROTHER ]

SO 10 POINT AS PER MY CALCULATION BUT IN LETTER ONLY 9 POINT..

PLS GIVE ME REPLY NOW FURTHER STEP FOR PROVE VISA OFFICER FOR MY ADEPTIBILITY POINTS...

regards,
vraj31



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