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Refugee Travel Document - Questions and Answers

noni.25

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Jan 12, 2020
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Hi Everyone..
I want your help please. So i have the travel document but i am still in the process for the PR. Will i be able to travel for vacations Because i am afraid that i dont have the PR yet....
I am thinking to go to mexico or europe. But i dont know if i need visa and the process.
 

canuck78

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Jun 18, 2017
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Hi Everyone..
I want your help please. So i have the travel document but i am still in the process for the PR. Will i be able to travel for vacations Because i am afraid that i dont have the PR yet....
I am thinking to go to mexico or europe. But i dont know if i need visa and the process.
Yes you can travel. You will have to look up each country to determine whether you can enter with RTD and whether you need a visa. Perhaps listing some of the countries you are receiving would be useful.
 

Nick_150

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Jun 4, 2017
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Dear Friends,
I am a protected person and my PR in process. I want to know your experience travelling with RTD to Malaysia. i have spoken to Malaysian embassy and visa process is quite easy. But my question is when returning back to Canada is there any problem without PR card. Can i board in aircraft from Malaysia airport. Please share your experience. Thanks in advance
You do not need PR to enter back in Canada, RTD is enough.
 
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canada619

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May 31, 2019
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Hello, I just applied recently and got it. I did the following:

1- only put issuing date and leave expiry date blank

2- I wrote: Not willing to apply as I submitted my refugee claim against *name your country of origin*

3- I actually think it's best to use your refugee claimant ID, along with driver's license. I was told they compare details on your decision letter to your refugee claimant ID.
The UCI number is the correct document number.
1- Should i put RPD file number to Proof of Immigration Status Section? What is the document number for Notice of Decision?

3- I put my driver's license info to documents to support identity section. Also should i add refugee claimant id? And do you think document number is UCI or the number located at top right of the refugee id? And are copy of these id's need to be signed by guarantor?
 

NewinKit

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Apr 4, 2019
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1- Should i put RPD file number to Proof of Immigration Status Section? What is the document number for Notice of Decision?

3- I put my driver's license info to documents to support identity section. Also should i add refugee claimant id? And do you think document number is UCI or the number located at top right of the refugee id? And are copy of these id's need to be signed by guarantor?

Yes you can put the RPD Number as the proof of your status.

And yes you can add your refugee claimant as an ID as long as it is not expired, the UCI number is the ID number.

My guarantor made copies of my original documents and signed it for me.
 

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Anyone has experience traveling to KSA without PR. I spoke to the embassy in Ottawa they said you can only go for family visit. I have brother in Saudi he is telling me can only apply for parents and spouse brother is not there and embassy again confirmed yes brother can apply for a visa from the website anyone can share there same experience
 
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HolyMoin

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I created this topic to share my knowledge and experience with all of you. I will try to answer some important questions and concerns regarding travel as a Convention Refugee or a Protected Person living in Canada.

I’m not a lawyer, just a person who likes clarity. I am very proud to call Canada my new home. I want continue traveling and explore the world, but at the same time stay I want to stay mindful, and avoid doing anything wrong that would compromise my PR or Refugee status here. Some terms are below being simplified.

As most of you know, when you make your refugee claim, your passport is being seized by CIC or CBSA.

When my refugee claim was accepted I discovered that there are certain things we are not advised to do:

• Do not travel back to your home country
• Do not renew your home country’s passport.
• Do not travel on your home country’s passport, even to a third country, such as USA for example
• Just simply don’t have any contact with embassy of your home country.

All those things could put you at risk of losing your refugee status, because CBSA may interpret those actions as you no longer fear your home country, so you no longer need Canada’s protection.

I am not able to specify which law applies here and so on, but I know for sure that there are legal cases in which government took action and stripped or tried to strip person’s protection because they did one of above mentioned things.

Also it’s a matter of interpreting the law, so I think we should take those warnings seriously, it’s our lives and protection we are talking about.

If you want to get more information, I would suggest checking out Canadian Council for Refugees and other websites.

After I received a positive decision on my refugee claim, soon I applied for RTD and was able to get it. It says that the RTD validity period is determined by the issuing office. In my case it was issued for 2 years. I personally know at least four other cases, where people applied for RTD before becoming PRs and received it also for 2 years. So I guess it’s safe to assume that majority of people, before PR will get it for 2 years.

When I was applied for it, I noticed that on application form it says: “I understand that if I am issued a Canadian travel document and later obtain a passport issued by my country of citizenship, I am obliged to return the Canadian travel document to Passport Program, Citizenship and Immigration Canada.”

Obviously I started to get worried, because once I become a PR, CIC will return my national passport and in theory I must return RTD. I will have no choice, but to use my national passport to travel, but I don’t want to do that! What should I do?!

After more than two years, I got my PR interview, I got my passport back, at the end of my interview I decided to ask officer in person about my RTD dilemma.


So I did, I called them and I talked with call center agent at first, and explained my situation:



So finally after several minutes of back and forth, agent agreed to put a special call back request directly from “Certificate of Identity Section - Passport Program” located in Gatineau, QC.

Next day I received a call and talked with a senior officer from that department, I explained my situation to him and finally I got the missing peace of a puzzle.


Some important points and additional information:

• As a Convention Refugee or a Protected Person in Canada we do have a right to travel.

• In order to be able to travel internationally, we must have a valid Travel Document.

• The only Travel Document we entitled to is a Refugee Travel Document, forget about Certificate of Identity

• In order to apply for RTD you need to use an application form “[PPTC 190] Adult travel document application form”, form is universal and is used to apply for both – RTD and COI.

• After becoming a Permanent Resident, you are still considered to have a refugee status in Canada

• RTD issued for 2 years before PR and after becoming PR for 5 years

• If you got your national passport back when you became PR, do not use it, instead send it to “Certificate of Identity Section - Passport Program” along with your explanation letter

Travel Document - is an identity document issued by a government and allowing us to travel internationally. Generally, Travel Documents look like a passport-like booklets. The most common Travel Document is a Passport.

Government of Canada has a special department responsible for issuing Travel Documents for Refugees and Stateless Persons, and it’s called: “Certificate of Identity Section - Passport Program”, located in Gatineau, QC

That department is issuing two types of a Travel Documents:

1. Refugee Travel Document (light blue) (United Nations Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees, 1951 and its Protocol of 1967): issued to persons in Canada with protected person status, including Convention refugees and persons in need of protection

2. Certificate of identity (grey or formerly brown): issued to permanent residents of Canada who are not yet Canadian citizens, who are stateless or who are unable to obtain a national passport.

Personally I would advise everyone including myself, travel only using RTD, we shouldn’t put ourselves at risk. Getting RTD for 5 years is a great solution and hopefully by the time we need to renew it, we will have our Canadian Citizenship :)

I will mention it again, I am not a lawyer, just sharing summary of my findings with you. If you have additional questions or information, you are welcome to ask and contribute.
Thank you so much! I can’t explain how relieved and satisfied I am now!
 

aroouae

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Jan 17, 2019
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Dear All, i have a question if someone has experience to advise me, can i travel throw UK airport as transit to take connection flight or i need transit visa for RTD without PR, hope to hear from you soon. thanks in advance
 

Masudi Chris

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Jan 21, 2020
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Hello! my name is masudi Chris

I always and think about living in canada
I don't have away to start and progress on it

How do I do to get help please
 

diyaa

Member
Jul 4, 2018
11
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Hello,

I am a protected person in Canada, and my PR is in the process:

I would like to travel to Italy and Germany this summer. For your experience, I would like you to please tell me :

Do I need a VISA to travel to Germany on RTD?
Do I need a VISA to travel to Italy on RTD?
Will I face any problems in entering back to Canada on RTD without PR?

Thank you and I would really appreciate if you could answer my questions.
 

diyaa

Member
Jul 4, 2018
11
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Hello,

I am a protected person in Canada, and my PR is in the process:

I would like to travel to Italy and Germany this summer. For your experience, I would like you to please tell me :

Do I need a VISA to travel to Germany on RTD?
Do I need a VISA to travel to Italy on RTD?
Will I face any problems in entering back to Canada on RTD without PR?

Thank you and I would really appreciate if you could answer my questions.