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Refugee Travel Document - Questions and Answers

BlueMoon8794

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May 20, 2018
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Yes, you can. You will be allowed to enter back. However, two things are very important:

1) Your re-entry to Canada is not "guaranteed".

Let's say if for any reason, which may make you inadmissible in Canada, you become their subject of interest, they can block your entry. They then can make you a subject of inadmissibility. They may detain you as well pending the outcome of the inadmissibility hearing. So stay safe!

2) Enhanced document (RTD) verification at all airports.

When you are traveling with RTD, they will stop you at every airline counter, check the document thoroughly, make few phone calls here and there, and then let you go. This process can take an hour or two so make sure you are ahead of your time when reaching the counter.

RTD let's you enter into Canada without any issue, if there is no "issue". PR, however, is a "guaranteed" re-entry into Canada. They may detain or deport you after but at least they will let you enter for sure.
Thanks for the answer. How long RTD taked for the processing? If you have any ideam
 

3psilon3

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Apr 15, 2018
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Just go to your family doctor. Ass long as you have been going to the doctor for the at least 6 months, you will be fine.
Thank you so much for your answer!

Another question: a friend's friend is willing to act as our guarantor, she is a registered nurse is she eligible to act as one? Checked on the website and they did not list RN's as guarantors although they are members of a professional order...
 
Jun 5, 2018
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I created this topic to share my knowledge and experience with all of you. I will try to answer some important questions and concerns regarding travel as a Convention Refugee or a Protected Person living in Canada.

I’m not a lawyer, just a person who likes clarity. I am very proud to call Canada my new home. I want continue traveling and explore the world, but at the same time stay I want to stay mindful, and avoid doing anything wrong that would compromise my PR or Refugee status here. Some terms are below being simplified.

As most of you know, when you make your refugee claim, your passport is being seized by CIC or CBSA.

When my refugee claim was accepted I discovered that there are certain things we are not advised to do:

• Do not travel back to your home country
• Do not renew your home country’s passport.
• Do not travel on your home country’s passport, even to a third country, such as USA for example
• Just simply don’t have any contact with embassy of your home country.

All those things could put you at risk of losing your refugee status, because CBSA may interpret those actions as you no longer fear your home country, so you no longer need Canada’s protection.

I am not able to specify which law applies here and so on, but I know for sure that there are legal cases in which government took action and stripped or tried to strip person’s protection because they did one of above mentioned things.

Also it’s a matter of interpreting the law, so I think we should take those warnings seriously, it’s our lives and protection we are talking about.

If you want to get more information, I would suggest checking out Canadian Council for Refugees and other websites.

After I received a positive decision on my refugee claim, soon I applied for RTD and was able to get it. It says that the RTD validity period is determined by the issuing office. In my case it was issued for 2 years. I personally know at least four other cases, where people applied for RTD before becoming PRs and received it also for 2 years. So I guess it’s safe to assume that majority of people, before PR will get it for 2 years.

When I was applied for it, I noticed that on application form it says: “I understand that if I am issued a Canadian travel document and later obtain a passport issued by my country of citizenship, I am obliged to return the Canadian travel document to Passport Program, Citizenship and Immigration Canada.”

Obviously I started to get worried, because once I become a PR, CIC will return my national passport and in theory I must return RTD. I will have no choice, but to use my national passport to travel, but I don’t want to do that! What should I do?!

After more than two years, I got my PR interview, I got my passport back, at the end of my interview I decided to ask officer in person about my RTD dilemma.


So I did, I called them and I talked with call center agent at first, and explained my situation:



So finally after several minutes of back and forth, agent agreed to put a special call back request directly from “Certificate of Identity Section - Passport Program” located in Gatineau, QC.

Next day I received a call and talked with a senior officer from that department, I explained my situation to him and finally I got the missing peace of a puzzle.


Some important points and additional information:

• As a Convention Refugee or a Protected Person in Canada we do have a right to travel.

• In order to be able to travel internationally, we must have a valid Travel Document.

• The only Travel Document we entitled to is a Refugee Travel Document, forget about Certificate of Identity

• In order to apply for RTD you need to use an application form “[PPTC 190] Adult travel document application form”, form is universal and is used to apply for both – RTD and COI.

• After becoming a Permanent Resident, you are still considered to have a refugee status in Canada

• RTD issued for 2 years before PR and after becoming PR for 5 years

• If you got your national passport back when you became PR, do not use it, instead send it to “Certificate of Identity Section - Passport Program” along with your explanation letter

Travel Document - is an identity document issued by a government and allowing us to travel internationally. Generally, Travel Documents look like a passport-like booklets. The most common Travel Document is a Passport.

Government of Canada has a special department responsible for issuing Travel Documents for Refugees and Stateless Persons, and it’s called: “Certificate of Identity Section - Passport Program”, located in Gatineau, QC

That department is issuing two types of a Travel Documents:

1. Refugee Travel Document (light blue) (United Nations Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees, 1951 and its Protocol of 1967): issued to persons in Canada with protected person status, including Convention refugees and persons in need of protection

2. Certificate of identity (grey or formerly brown): issued to permanent residents of Canada who are not yet Canadian citizens, who are stateless or who are unable to obtain a national passport.

Personally I would advise everyone including myself, travel only using RTD, we shouldn’t put ourselves at risk. Getting RTD for 5 years is a great solution and hopefully by the time we need to renew it, we will have our Canadian Citizenship :)

I will mention it again, I am not a lawyer, just sharing summary of my findings with you. If you have additional questions or information, you are welcome to ask and contribute.
 

szaib002

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Jan 28, 2018
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Thank you so much for your answer!

Another question: a friend's friend is willing to act as our guarantor, she is a registered nurse is she eligible to act as one? Checked on the website and they did not list RN's as guarantors although they are members of a professional order...
Tbh go to your family doctor. They might send your application back if they don't accept the guarantor. So just to be safe use your family doctor.
 
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Preet31

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Aug 8, 2017
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Hello everyone,

I need your advice, I'm protected person in Canada and add on my spouse in my permanent application. He got his open work permit he has an Indian passport and I have RTD. we want to go for our honeymoon to Europe. Long story short my question is , is it okay for him to travel on his passport or do we need to get RTD for him?

Thank you so much.
 

3psilon3

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Apr 15, 2018
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Hello everyone,

I need your advice, I'm protected person in Canada and add on my spouse in my permanent application. He got his open work permit he has an Indian passport and I have RTD. we want to go for our honeymoon to Europe. Long story short my question is , is it okay for him to travel on his passport or do we need to get RTD for him?

Thank you so much.
Hi,
I think he'll be okay with his national passport. Granted we have yet to travel, we are in the same situation. My husband is a protected person, he added me to his application and we got our residence a little over a year ago. I have my national passport and just got my visa for the US. We are applying for his RTD to travel this summer.
 
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Preet31

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Aug 8, 2017
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Hi,
I think he'll be okay with his national passport. Granted we have yet to travel, we are in the same situation. My husband is a protected person, he added me to his application and we got our residence a little over a year ago. I have my national passport and just got my visa for the US. We are applying for his RTD to travel this summer.
Thank you so much for your reply :)
 
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szaib002

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Jan 28, 2018
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How is visa application process for the UK? I had a quick look at the visa application and the process seems a bit complex and time-consuming.