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Refugee Travel Document - Questions and Answers

imissmylove

Star Member
Feb 9, 2018
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@imissmylove I am sorry but as mentioned, you need to be accepted as a refugee first. Without that letter of acceptance, you can't apply for Travel Document. I am sure you knew this might have happened. I have been in Canada for 8 years now and haven't been back home yet. Yes I miss everyone. I even miss those who passed away including my grandmother, 2 uncles, and my 17 years old brother. This is part of the journey. Be patient.
I know how you feeling bro! I hope you see them asap, just trust to god and check the ways and solution's which work's, if you can invite them or go to a near country and bring them there and see them.
are you citizen now after 8 years also are you PR now ? of course you have them right after a long time!
 

Ratmir

Hero Member
Jun 9, 2017
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First of all, thank you for your great research and useful info.

I just got a question and I think some people also may be interested.

Recently, i was speaking with friend of mine, he told me that it is possible to obtain or apply for Refuge Travel Document before your hearing date?
As from news you know that the hearing date will be held after 20 months and his also was canceled prior to the order of the newcomers.

So who knows or does anyone obtain the RTD before acceptance?
I talked with lawyer, he said it could be, as you original passport was taken and you want to meet with your family or to go somewhere,

Please, I look forward your answer and opinions.
,
 

atakan24

Newbie
Feb 11, 2018
8
3
### Ratmir.
Your lawyer does not know anything like my lawyer. I just received my Travel document and I submitted Notice of Decision (orjinal only).
Unfortunately, You are not able to apply for a Refugee travel document. You must submit one of the following with your application form( PPTC190).
  • Permanent Resident Card
  • Protected Person Status Document
  • Temporary Resident Permit
  • Notice of Decision (NOD) from the Immigration and Refugee Board (IRB)
  • IRCC Verification of Status (VOS) document
Click the link to see full requirements

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/canadian-passports/travel-documents-non-canadians/apply.html.
 

candela45

Newbie
Feb 24, 2018
3
0
I just received my "Notice of Decision" and it says refugee status has been accepted and I am a convention refugee now !!!. I m so happy guys and I wish all claimants here to receive a positive feedback. I am filling out the RTD Form and have 2 questions:

1-Question 3: Under "Proof of Immigration Status", they ask for UCI Number, (Date of Issue), and (Date of Expiry, if applicable). What dates are they referring to here? I have issue/expiry dates mentioned in the refugee claimant doc, which is part of Question 6: "Docs to Support Identity". Any input on this ?

2-Have you, since your date of entry to Canada, applied for a passport or TD (or renewed for such docs) from your country of origin? If the answer is No, then please provide a detailed explanation of your reasons for not applying ? How to answer this question?
Hi there! Can you please tell me what's your nationality?
 

LoveCanada10

Star Member
Jan 3, 2015
103
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I know how you feeling bro! I hope you see them asap, just trust to god and check the ways and solution's which work's, if you can invite them or go to a near country and bring them there and see them.
are you citizen now after 8 years also are you PR now ? of course you have them right after a long time!
Thanks. It is not easy to go to a nearby country and it is not also easy for parents to travel overseas due to health complications.
To answer your question, I applied in 2011, I got my PR 5 years later in 2016. So yes I am a PR but still not eligible to apply for citizenship.
 

LoveCanada10

Star Member
Jan 3, 2015
103
41
First of all, thank you for your great research and useful info.

I just got a question and I think some people also may be interested.

Recently, i was speaking with friend of mine, he told me that it is possible to obtain or apply for Refuge Travel Document before your hearing date?
As from news you know that the hearing date will be held after 20 months and his also was canceled prior to the order of the newcomers.

So who knows or does anyone obtain the RTD before acceptance?
I talked with lawyer, he said it could be, as you original passport was taken and you want to meet with your family or to go somewhere,

Please, I look forward your answer and opinions.
,
Maybe ask the friend of the friend or the lawyer who told you it is possible. As far as we all know and also mentioned clearly on the web site, you can NOT obtain it until you have a positive hearing decision and become a refugee.

PS. You might need to think of changing your lawyer!
 

YousifBreesam

Star Member
Jan 31, 2018
99
14
First of all, thank you for your great research and useful info.

I just got a question and I think some people also may be interested.

Recently, i was speaking with friend of mine, he told me that it is possible to obtain or apply for Refuge Travel Document before your hearing date?
As from news you know that the hearing date will be held after 20 months and his also was canceled prior to the order of the newcomers.

So who knows or does anyone obtain the RTD before acceptance?
I talked with lawyer, he said it could be, as you original passport was taken and you want to meet with your family or to go somewhere,

Please, I look forward your answer and opinions.
,
I was in the same situation like you, and I am almost 6 years away from my family back home, but tge only difference is that I recently got accepted as convention refugee and now I am able to apply for RTD. By the way, a lot of lawyers don't know nothing about this, they just want to finish the case with you & take their money, that's it. Ur lawyer was wrong. I hope you get a hearing soon & they accept ur claim. Good luck
 

Tebit fred

Newbie
Mar 3, 2018
2
0
I created this topic to share my knowledge and experience with all of you. I will try to answer some important questions and concerns regarding travel as a Convention Refugee or a Protected Person living in Canada.

I’m not a lawyer, just a person who likes clarity. I am very proud to call Canada my new home. I want continue traveling and explore the world, but at the same time stay I want to stay mindful, and avoid doing anything wrong that would compromise my PR or Refugee status here. Some terms are below being simplified.

As most of you know, when you make your refugee claim, your passport is being seized by CIC or CBSA.

When my refugee claim was accepted I discovered that there are certain things we are not advised to do:

• Do not travel back to your home country
• Do not renew your home country’s passport.
• Do not travel on your home country’s passport, even to a third country, such as USA for example
• Just simply don’t have any contact with embassy of your home country.

All those things could put you at risk of losing your refugee status, because CBSA may interpret those actions as you no longer fear your home country, so you no longer need Canada’s protection.

I am not able to specify which law applies here and so on, but I know for sure that there are legal cases in which government took action and stripped or tried to strip person’s protection because they did one of above mentioned things.

Also it’s a matter of interpreting the law, so I think we should take those warnings seriously, it’s our lives and protection we are talking about.

If you want to get more information, I would suggest checking out Canadian Council for Refugees and other websites.

After I received a positive decision on my refugee claim, soon I applied for RTD and was able to get it. It says that the RTD validity period is determined by the issuing office. In my case it was issued for 2 years. I personally know at least four other cases, where people applied for RTD before becoming PRs and received it also for 2 years. So I guess it’s safe to assume that majority of people, before PR will get it for 2 years.

When I was applied for it, I noticed that on application form it says: “I understand that if I am issued a Canadian travel document and later obtain a passport issued by my country of citizenship, I am obliged to return the Canadian travel document to Passport Program, Citizenship and Immigration Canada.”

Obviously I started to get worried, because once I become a PR, CIC will return my national passport and in theory I must return RTD. I will have no choice, but to use my national passport to travel, but I don’t want to do that! What should I do?!

After more than two years, I got my PR interview, I got my passport back, at the end of my interview I decided to ask officer in person about my RTD dilemma.


So I did, I called them and I talked with call center agent at first, and explained my situation:



So finally after several minutes of back and forth, agent agreed to put a special call back request directly from “Certificate of Identity Section - Passport Program” located in Gatineau, QC.

Next day I received a call and talked with a senior officer from that department, I explained my situation to him and finally I got the missing peace of a puzzle.


Some important points and additional information:

• As a Convention Refugee or a Protected Person in Canada we do have a right to travel.

• In order to be able to travel internationally, we must have a valid Travel Document.

• The only Travel Document we entitled to is a Refugee Travel Document, forget about Certificate of Identity

• In order to apply for RTD you need to use an application form “[PPTC 190] Adult travel document application form”, form is universal and is used to apply for both – RTD and COI.

• After becoming a Permanent Resident, you are still considered to have a refugee status in Canada

• RTD issued for 2 years before PR and after becoming PR for 5 years

• If you got your national passport back when you became PR, do not use it, instead send it to “Certificate of Identity Section - Passport Program” along with your explanation letter

Travel Document - is an identity document issued by a government and allowing us to travel internationally. Generally, Travel Documents look like a passport-like booklets. The most common Travel Document is a Passport.

Government of Canada has a special department responsible for issuing Travel Documents for Refugees and Stateless Persons, and it’s called: “Certificate of Identity Section - Passport Program”, located in Gatineau, QC

That department is issuing two types of a Travel Documents:

1. Refugee Travel Document (light blue) (United Nations Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees, 1951 and its Protocol of 1967): issued to persons in Canada with protected person status, including Convention refugees and persons in need of protection

2. Certificate of identity (grey or formerly brown): issued to permanent residents of Canada who are not yet Canadian citizens, who are stateless or who are unable to obtain a national passport.

Personally I would advise everyone including myself, travel only using RTD, we shouldn’t put ourselves at risk. Getting RTD for 5 years is a great solution and hopefully by the time we need to renew it, we will have our Canadian Citizenship :)

I will mention it again, I am not a lawyer, just sharing summary of my findings with you. If you have additional questions or information, you are welcome to ask and contribute.
Sir a question for you ,what if you have never had a passport and due to the political crises of your country ,you fled to another neighbouring country .Is it still possible to apply and obtain a Canadian refugee travel document
 

Luam

Full Member
Dec 19, 2017
20
0
I need your help here . I am a protected person I have applied for RTD l. My question is I have got a job in one organization with a contract 6 months outside Canada in Africa and I believe they don’t require visa to enter with the RTD . Is it possible for me to go and work for six months and come back to Canada . My PR is in process. Pls I need your advance .

Thank you
 

Elohot

Member
Mar 6, 2018
10
0
Good morning guys please I need help right now

I was refused entering flight back to Canada last Saturday, 3rd cos I didn't come with my pr card please I need ur help,Ive missed my flight already, and I have refugee travel document only and my PR card is still in progress .
 

Refugeee

Star Member
Jan 13, 2015
134
58
Good morning guys please I need help right now

I was refused entering flight back to Canada last Saturday, 3rd cos I didn't come with my pr card please I need ur help,Ive missed my flight already, and I have refugee travel document only and my PR card is still in progress .
1.) What airline was it?
2.) Did you have your notice of decision with you?
 

Elohot

Member
Mar 6, 2018
10
0
Please I am in same position right now please what did u do because the ask me to apply for pr travel documents .