Refugee From US first steps

[lunacorn]

Hi,

currently looking into coming to canada given the state of things and the reality of being transgender in this country.

I am looking at information online regarding moving and am curious what applications I may need and how to do so.

If I leave I am aware coming back would be diffucult so want to make sure I have everything in process before hand.

I am seeing refugee applications and curious if anyone can advise an individual on how to move through the process
and the best way to do so.

 

[Rob_TO]

Hi,

currently looking into coming to canada given the state of things and the reality of being transgender in this country.

I am looking at information online regarding moving and am curious what applications I may need and how to do so.

If I leave I am aware coming back would be diffucult so want to make sure I have everything in process before hand.

I am seeing refugee applications and curious if anyone can advise an individual on how to move through the process
and the best way to do so.

Do you have any family in Canada? If not, then under current rules you aren't eligible to claim refugee status in Canada due to "safe 3rd country" rule. You would be turned away at the border.

Only way other US refugee claimants end up claiming refugee status in Canada is to dangerously and illegally cross the border through some unmanned area. There are stories about this on the news these days.

 

[lookloan]

Thing don't make sense. I have Grand parents born in the late 1800s in Canada and I am 1/2 French Canadian.
I am almost 60 years old, worked my whole life. I have a million dollars in equity in my US home I am selling.
Another 500K in retirement and savings, no criminal record yet someone from Syria or some other country than the
US can claim refugee and they can stay in Canada, yet someone with my background and blood can't.
Why does Canada focus on English and French speaking as a strong requirement, yet take in non-either speaking just because
they show up saying their refugees. It's a double standard where on one end the reason my kind are not wanted is because we
will be a burden to the financial system, yet the refugees are an instant burden that includes terror risks. Dumb.

 

[scylla]

Thing don't make sense. I have Grand parents born in the late 1800s in Canada and I am 1/2 French Canadian.
I am almost 60 years old, worked my whole life. I have a million dollars in equity in my US home I am selling.
Another 500K in retirement and savings, no criminal record yet someone from Syria or some other country than the
US can claim refugee and they can stay in Canada, yet someone with my background and blood can't.
Why does Canada focus on English and French speaking as a strong requirement, yet take in non-either speaking just because
they show up saying their refugees. It's a double standard where on one end the reason my kind are not wanted is because we
will be a burden to the financial system, yet the refugees are an instant burden that includes terror risks. Dumb.

You'll be a financial burden to Canada as well. You are older and haven't spend your income years contributing to Canada from a tax perspective. You are entering the prime years of your life for using Canada's health care and social care systems. What you use in services will by far outweigh what you contribute to Canada's economy at this point. Refugees are generally quite a bit younger and will contribute for many years to Canada's economy. Whether you like it or not - you're the greater burden to us financially.

Based on your view of refugees, sounds like Canada wouldn't be the right place for you anyway.

 

[scylla]

Hi,

currently looking into coming to canada given the state of things and the reality of being transgender in this country.

I am looking at information online regarding moving and am curious what applications I may need and how to do so.

If I leave I am aware coming back would be diffucult so want to make sure I have everything in process before hand.

I am seeing refugee applications and curious if anyone can advise an individual on how to move through the process
and the best way to do so.

If you are a US citizen or green card holder, there's no chance a refugee claim will be approved.

If you are not a US citizen or green card holder, your claim may be approved depending on your country of origin. However as explained above, you need to have a family member in Canada in order to claim refugee status due to the Safe Third Country Agreement.

 

[lookloan]

Reverse discrimation with some of these posters - imagine the stupidity of judging and thinking a refugee from another country will be a loyal Canadian citizen taking little resources versus someone that is a multi millionaire, will be receiving US Social Security and a pension, interjects hundreds of thousands of dollars into Canada buying a property cash, paying taxes, utilties, food, etc is more of a burden than someone coming in that is non English and French speaking, needs welfare. medical.

My other parent is from Italy. Just learned because either of my Grand parents or my father being born there make me automatically if I choose to be a fuel citizen. I am surprised at the left thinking of this Toronto based member who is a hypocrite.

 

[Mthornt]

Reverse discrimation with some of these posters - imagine the stupidity of judging and thinking a refugee from another country will be a loyal Canadian citizen taking little resources versus someone that is a multi millionaire, will be receiving US Social Security and a pension, interjects hundreds of thousands of dollars into Canada buying a property cash, paying taxes, utilties, food, etc is more of a burden than someone coming in that is non English and French speaking, needs welfare. medical.

My other parent is from Italy. Just learned because either of my Grand parents or my father being born there make me automatically if I choose to be a fuel citizen. I am surprised at the left thinking of this Toronto based member who is a hypocrite.

Regardless of what you, the poster, or anyone else thinks, Canada is a sovereign nation, and they determine what their policies are, and you don't qualify. Looks like you should be working on your Italian and looking for the Italy forum, not the Canada one.

 

[Aquakitty]

Reverse discrimation with some of these posters - imagine the stupidity of judging and thinking a refugee from another country will be a loyal Canadian citizen taking little resources versus someone that is a multi millionaire, will be receiving US Social Security and a pension, interjects hundreds of thousands of dollars into Canada buying a property cash, paying taxes, utilties, food, etc is more of a burden than someone coming in that is non English and French speaking, needs welfare. medical.

My other parent is from Italy. Just learned because either of my Grand parents or my father being born there make me automatically if I choose to be a fuel citizen. I am surprised at the left thinking of this Toronto based member who is a hypocrite.

Well, think about this a little bit. You are a multi-millionaire from a first-world country. You can move anywhere you want in your country, perhaps to somewhere more welcoming. I can say that while Canada is generally less "oppressive" than the US, there is still racism and homophobia galore here. Ignorant people are in every country.

But seriously, how can you compare your life situation to that of someone escaping a massacre in their home country? And no, every refugee is not a good person. That's why there is a vetting process.


And there's nothing stopping you from living half the year Canada as a visitor. You could still buy a house here and live here, reverse "snowbird".