Received Fairness Letter......Seeking guidance for reply

[manizheh]

Hi dear computergeek. ..
Thanks for your good advises...one of my friends has a problem and she has wanted me to consult with you...her situation is like me with the same case .. (kidney transplant . .we have meet each other in the hospital )..she also has answered to faireness letter about excessive demand. .but before getting her answer now she has received another faireness letter about security check of her husband. ..cic have mentioned that her response to faireness letter is under review and this letter is about her husband security inadmissibility. .due the company he is working..they gathered a lot of information explaining that his work is normal and in fact as far as I know there is not any security problem in his work...now..we are surprised whether they commenc security check before finishing medical and can they overcome to the 2 fairness letter for one file? ...thanks alot

 

[computergeek]

Hi dear computergeek. ..
Thanks for your good advises...one of my friends has a problem and she has wanted me to consult with you...her situation is like me with the same case .. (kidney transplant . .we have meet each other in the hospital )..she also has answered to faireness letter about excessive demand. .but before getting her answer now she has received another faireness letter about security check of her husband. ..cic have mentioned that her response to faireness letter is under review and this letter is about her husband security inadmissibility. .due the company he is working..they gathered a lot of information explaining that his work is normal and in fact as far as I know there is not any security problem in his work...now..we are surprised whether they commenc security check before finishing medical and can they overcome to the 2 fairness letter for one file? ...thanks alot

The two matters are independent. Medical and security/background checks are typically started at the same time. Both fairness letters must be overcome, either one would be the basis of a refusal.

 

[manizheh]

Dear computergeek
Thanks for your advices...i found this topic referred below in this forum...(canadavisa)...about security check..



Background & Security Checks

Note: Our Background Check comprises of 2 parts:
1. The Standard Documentation Checks,
2. The Security & Criminality Checks

 

[jen3014]

Congratulations!

Thanks again Computergeek - we received CoPR in the mail last week. Couldn't have done it without your advice on putting together mitigation plan.

 

[NewPlan2014]

Thanks again Computergeek - we received CoPR in the mail last week. Couldn't have done it without your advice on putting together mitigation plan.

Congratulation

 

[addis]

Dear Computergeek

URGENT REQUEST!!!!

Our medicals were submitted on 13 Aug 2014. We have had no word since except a request for RPRF in Jan 2015.

My son is on the autism spectrum. I just noticed in GCMS notes that the email id I gave for my son is now defunct and not accessible.

I have received emails from CPC-CTD-Ottawa@cic.gc.ca at a different email id as principal applicant.

Is it possible that they may have sent a furtherance request in december 2014 to the defunct email id, which I have not received?

Please advise on the following part of the GCMS notes:

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Correspondence
Outgoing
Updated date: 2014/12/09
Document: Furtherance request - eMed
Type: PDF
Status: sent
Due date: 2015/04/08

Item requested: 0

Attachments: 1

-----

Please respond at your earliest. It is not clear if this correspondence is internal or to me??

Please also advise my there is a way to communicate with the visa officer to correct this situation? I have sent emails but got no response.

Would you suggest that I send additional documents supporting our case, before getting a fairness letter for medical inadmissibility?

Waiting for your response,

Addis

 

[computergeek]

Dear Computergeek

URGENT REQUEST!!!!

Our medicals were submitted on 13 Aug 2014. We have had no word since except a request for RPRF in Jan 2015.

My son is on the autism spectrum. I just noticed in GCMS notes that the email id I gave for my son is now defunct and not accessible.

I have received emails from CPC-CTD-Ottawa @ cic.gc.ca at a different email id as principal applicant.

Is it possible that they may have sent a furtherance request in december 2014 to the defunct email id, which I have not received?

Please advise on the following part of the GCMS notes:

--------
Correspondence
Outgoing
Updated date: 2014/12/09
Document: Furtherance request - eMed
Type: PDF
Status: sent
Due date: 2015/04/08

Item requested: 0

Attachments: 1

-----

Please respond at your earliest. It is not clear if this correspondence is internal or to me??

Please also advise my there is a way to communicate with the visa officer to correct this situation? I have sent emails but got no response.

Would you suggest that I send additional documents supporting our case, before getting a fairness letter for medical inadmissibility?

Waiting for your response,

Addis

Notice that the "Items Requested" count is 0, which means they didn't ask for anything. I've seen this before with people that haven't received a medical furtherance and expected one, so I suspect (but do not know for certain) that this is some sort of internal annotation. In any case, you (as primary applicant) should have received any medical furtherance. I've never seen nor heard of such a request being sent via e-mail, as normally it contains a sealed envelope that you are to deliver to the panel physician.

I would not suggest sending any additional documents. If you DO wish to send something, send a letter in writing noting that you observed a medical furtherance notation on your GCMS notes and that as of the date of the letter you have not received anything. Do that in writing, with some sort of return receipt (so you can prove they received it). That will protect against them claiming you were not responsive, but I wouldn't expect anything else to happen.

 

[nitinbali60]

Hi Computergeek,

I have sponsored my parents to come to Canada back in 2010. Last month they had their medicals done and my dad was asked to see nephrologist as his creatinine was abnormal. Nephrologist posted gfr to be 37 and diagnosed CKD 3.

ECAS status has changed today to "Medical results have been received" .

Does it just mean they have received it and will now be reviewed by their doctors?

I was expecting a furtherance as my dad saw a nephrologist and was diagnosed with CKD stage 3.

What can one make out of this status?

1) Medicals received and currently under review

2) Medicals received and have passed it

2) Medicals received and failed and I might get a fairness letter (I HOPE NOT )



On the other side of this CIC also emailed a month ago asking for FBI clearance which I have applied for and waiting.

 

[addis]

Notice that the "Items Requested" count is 0, which means they didn't ask for anything. I've seen this before with people that haven't received a medical furtherance and expected one, so I suspect (but do not know for certain) that this is some sort of internal annotation. In any case, you (as primary applicant) should have received any medical furtherance. I've never seen nor heard of such a request being sent via e-mail, as normally it contains a sealed envelope that you are to deliver to the panel physician.

I would not suggest sending any additional documents. If you DO wish to send something, send a letter in writing noting that you observed a medical furtherance notation on your GCMS notes and that as of the date of the letter you have not received anything. Do that in writing, with some sort of return receipt (so you can prove they received it). That will protect against them claiming you were not responsive, but I wouldn't expect anything else to happen.

Dear Computergeek,

Thanks for your response. I have called the CIC helpline and they have put a note in the file. The agent could not understand why our furtherance had been sent to Delhi, when there is no one there. We have been in Canada since Fall 2012. I have emailed CPC Ottawa requesting them for the status and clearly mentioning that I have not received any correspondence from them on medical furtherance.

Quick question: I am applying for various jobs within and outside Canada. How will moving out of Canada impact my PR application? I am not sure if this is a good option.

thanks and regards,

addis

 

[computergeek]

Hi Computergeek,

I have sponsored my parents to come to Canada back in 2010. Last month they had their medicals done and my dad was asked to see nephrologist as his creatinine was abnormal. Nephrologist posted gfr to be 37 and diagnosed CKD 3.

ECAS status has changed today to "Medical results have been received" .

Does it just mean they have received it and will now be reviewed by their doctors?

I was expecting a furtherance as my dad saw a nephrologist and was diagnosed with CKD stage 3.

What can one make out of this status?

1) Medicals received and currently under review

2) Medicals received and have passed it

2) Medicals received and failed and I might get a fairness letter (I HOPE NOT )



On the other side of this CIC also emailed a month ago asking for FBI clearance which I have applied for and waiting.

Fairness letters come before the medical results are entered into the CIC immigration system, so it's not a refusal.

It could also mean that medical results for one of your parents have been received. Unfortunately, all you can do is either wait or order GCMS (electronic case) notes.

 

[computergeek]

Dear Computergeek,

Thanks for your response. I have called the CIC helpline and they have put a note in the file. The agent could not understand why our furtherance had been sent to Delhi, when there is no one there. We have been in Canada since Fall 2012. I have emailed CPC Ottawa requesting them for the status and clearly mentioning that I have not received any correspondence from them on medical furtherance.

Quick question: I am applying for various jobs within and outside Canada. How will moving out of Canada impact my PR application? I am not sure if this is a good option.

thanks and regards,

addis

Some legal arguments that you could present because you are in Canada (e.g., Charter rights issues) may not be available to you if you are not in Canada (there is case law suggesting that the Charter does not grant rights to people outside Canada.)

 

[nitinbali60]

Fairness letters come before the medical results are entered into the CIC immigration system, so it's not a refusal.

It could also mean that medical results for one of your parents have been received. Unfortunately, all you can do is either wait or order GCMS (electronic case) notes.

Thanks Computergeek, I hope its all positive. I have submitted GCMS notes yesterday via ATIP. I will share them once I have it.

 

[waqaralis]

Some legal arguments that you could present because you are in Canada (e.g., Charter rights issues) may not be available to you if you are not in Canada (there is case law suggesting that the Charter does not grant rights to people outside Canada.)

Dear Computergeek,
Need your help. I have sent a PM to you. Please check.

regards,

 

[FSWCIO]

Hi dear computergeek. ..
Thanks for your good advises...one of my friends has a problem and she has wanted me to consult with you...her situation is like me with the same case .. (kidney transplant . .we have meet each other in the hospital )..she also has answered to faireness letter about excessive demand. .but before getting her answer now she has received another faireness letter about security check of her husband. ..cic have mentioned that her response to faireness letter is under review and this letter is about her husband security inadmissibility. .due the company he is working..they gathered a lot of information explaining that his work is normal and in fact as far as I know there is not any security problem in his work...now..we are surprised whether they commenc security check before finishing medical and can they overcome to the 2 fairness letter for one file? ...thanks alot

What kind of company her husband works :

 

[manizheh]

Hi dear FSWCIO
he is working in one of the petrochemical company's. ..I am sure there is un misunderestanding about that for the visa officer..