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athraa.abb

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Hello everyone.

I did a sponsorship for my husband in 2013 which was processed in amman. We were refused because of our financial situation and we started an appeal case but withdrew the appeal after a few months.

I am wondering when I can reapply for a sponsorship for my husband again?

Thanks
Athraa
 

AG15

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athraa.abb said:
Hello everyone.

I did a sponsorship for my husband in 2013 which was processed in amman. We were refused because of our financial situation and we started an appeal case but withdrew the appeal after a few months.

I am wondering when I can reapply for a sponsorship for my husband again?

Thanks
Athraa
Did your file refused due to sponsor financial sitation or principal applicant ..
 

canadianwoman

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Look at all the reasons the visa officer gave for the refusal. This should be in the notes you got for the appeal, and in the refusal letter. Then see if you can fix all the problems mentioned. As soon as you have fixed these problems, you can reapply. If the only problem was your financial situation, then if your financial situation has improved, you should be good to reapply.

To sponsor a spouse or partner, you do not need to have an income or a job, but the visa officer still wants to see that you two will be able to support yourselves once the applicant gets PR. So you should include a plan in the application describing how you will support yourselves and what you will do once the PR is received.
 
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mikeymyke

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Based on previous posts, it looked like she was unable to demonstrate she would be able to financially support her husband, despite the fact that you dont need to be currently employed. She only worked a few hours a week at a part time job and mostly didnt even work at all, and her husband, despite being the one being sponsored, is actually the one providing financial support
 

athraa.abb

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AG15 said:
Did your file refused due to sponsor financial sitation or principal applicant ..
Both. My husband's income in Iraq was low and I didn't work much, we had low savings. So we were refused.
 

athraa.abb

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mikeymyke said:
Based on previous posts, it looked like she was unable to demonstrate she would be able to financially support her husband, despite the fact that you dont need to be currently employed. She only worked a few hours a week at a part time job and mostly didnt even work at all, and her husband, despite being the one being sponsored, is actually the one providing financial support
What hurts is that people want to come to Canada for a better living. They want to be able to come into Canada to work and have a better life but they're refused because their financial situation is no good. My husband works in Iraq, he's in the army, that's pretty much all there is in Iraq to live from, whether you have an education or not. It's not his fault his income is low now is it? We can't save much from his income. I couldn't work for different reasons at different times and I was told I don't have to work to sponsor him. Our lawyer was no help whatsoever... I guess our sponsorship happened at a wrong time and that's why I want to reapply once we make our financial situation better and have a stronger case.
 

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athraa.abb said:
Hello everyone.

I did a sponsorship for my husband in 2013 which was processed in amman. We were refused because of our financial situation and we started an appeal case but withdrew the appeal after a few months.

I am wondering when I can reapply for a sponsorship for my husband again?

Thanks
Athraa
I would apply again as soon as your financial situation changes (since this was the reason for the refusal). Has your financial situation changed?
 

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athraa.abb said:
What hurts is that people want to come to Canada for a better living. They want to be able to come into Canada to work and have a better life but they're refused because their financial situation is no good. My husband works in Iraq, he's in the army, that's pretty much all there is in Iraq to live from, whether you have an education or not. It's not his fault his income is low now is it? We can't save much from his income. I couldn't work for different reasons at different times and I was told I don't have to work to sponsor him. Our lawyer was no help whatsoever... I guess our sponsorship happened at a wrong time and that's why I want to reapply once we make our financial situation better and have a stronger case.
Totally agree that on the surface it appears callus. They just want to make sure there won't be a negative impact to the social system (financial, medical, etc).
 

Alurra71

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athraa.abb said:
What hurts is that people want to come to Canada for a better living. They want to be able to come into Canada to work and have a better life but they're refused because their financial situation is no good. My husband works in Iraq, he's in the army, that's pretty much all there is in Iraq to live from, whether you have an education or not. It's not his fault his income is low now is it? We can't save much from his income. I couldn't work for different reasons at different times and I was told I don't have to work to sponsor him. Our lawyer was no help whatsoever... I guess our sponsorship happened at a wrong time and that's why I want to reapply once we make our financial situation better and have a stronger case.
Your financial situation is not necessarily the reason you were denied. The main reason you were denied is likely that you didn't give the VO enough evidence to prove that you and your husband would support yourselves once he was a landed immigrant. You don't have to make a lot of money, but you do have to have a good plan of action about how you will support yourselves. What skills does your husband posses? What does he do in the army? How would he be able to apply those skills to a job once he is in Canada? How much would that type of job pay annually? Would you be sharing the care taking of your child once he is in Canada? If yes, would your current employer give you more hours? ...

It is your job to satisfy the VO that your family will not be a financial drain to the Canadian taxpayers. You didn't provide them with that needed assurance and were denied because they feel you will immediately seek welfare the moment he signs that COPR. Fix that issue and you'll see a different outcome.
 
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mikeymyke

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athraa.abb said:
What hurts is that people want to come to Canada for a better living. They want to be able to come into Canada to work and have a better life but they're refused because their financial situation is no good. My husband works in Iraq, he's in the army, that's pretty much all there is in Iraq to live from, whether you have an education or not. It's not his fault his income is low now is it? We can't save much from his income. I couldn't work for different reasons at different times and I was told I don't have to work to sponsor him. Our lawyer was no help whatsoever... I guess our sponsorship happened at a wrong time and that's why I want to reapply once we make our financial situation better and have a stronger case.
You don't have to work, but at the same time, you're supposed to demonstrate how the both of you will support yourselves when he comes to Canada. Alurra71 hit the nail on the head with what she said above. If he's making low income, yet he's the one sending you money, and you yourself haven't had stable employment, even showing a paystub with just $40 on it, then I would understand from their point of view how it would seem likely one of you would end up going on social assistance.

You mentioned your husband has constructions skills. Did you write a letter to CIC detailing that he perhaps, plans to take up work in construction? Calgary, which is where you live, has lots of construction jobs despite the recession, since it's a booming city like Edmonton. Did you mention to CIC that despite your poor employment record, you're currently living with a relative, and you're actively seeking employment?

For yourself, have you looked at job banks or kijiji.ca for work? Are you only interested in doing specific types of jobs? Even though Calgary is in a bit of a recession, there's still lots of jobs to be had if you're not picky. You could work as a general labourer in a warehouse for $18/hr, construction site labourer for $20/hr, etc.
 

Neenvin

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I'm sponsoring my husband and he is in the philippines, he doesn't have a job for a year now because he can't find one since he has tattoos. However, I have a full time job and i provided an employment letter with my option c and some pay stub when I sent my application. I support him by giving him 100 biweekly.
Will that lead to a refusal?
 
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mikeymyke

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Neenvin said:
I'm sponsoring my husband and he is in the philippines, he doesn't have a job for a year now because he can't find one since he has tattoos. However, I have a full time job and i provided an employment letter with my option c and some pay stub when I sent my application. I support him by giving him 100 biweekly.
Will that lead to a refusal?
Definitely not. You're gainfully employed and you support him. Even if you want to mention the thing about the tattoos and that when he comes here, he plans to take a job in _______, that's fine too
 

Neenvin

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mikeymyke said:
Definitely not. You're gainfully employed and you support him. Even if you want to mention the thing about the tattoos and that when he comes here, he plans to take a job in _______, that's fine too
Thank you for your quick reply. Finally my mind is at ease. I also sent a picture of my husband with his tattoo (my name with our wedding rings and date) on his chest to proof we are genuine.
 

athraa.abb

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mikeymyke said:
You don't have to work, but at the same time, you're supposed to demonstrate how the both of you will support yourselves when he comes to Canada. Alurra71 hit the nail on the head with what she said above. If he's making low income, yet he's the one sending you money, and you yourself haven't had stable employment, even showing a paystub with just $40 on it, then I would understand from their point of view how it would seem likely one of you would end up going on social assistance.

You mentioned your husband has constructions skills. Did you write a letter to CIC detailing that he perhaps, plans to take up work in construction? Calgary, which is where you live, has lots of construction jobs despite the recession, since it's a booming city like Edmonton. Did you mention to CIC that despite your poor employment record, you're currently living with a relative, and you're actively seeking employment?

For yourself, have you looked at job banks or kijiji.ca for work? Are you only interested in doing specific types of jobs? Even though Calgary is in a bit of a recession, there's still lots of jobs to be had if you're not picky. You could work as a general labourer in a warehouse for $18/hr, construction site labourer for $20/hr, etc.
We had no intention of going on social assistance. I looked for a job for months, put my baby in daycare so I could get a job but then no one hired because I couldn't work weekends because there was no daycare for my son on weekends and no one to look after him. The only job I got gave me little hours for the same reason that I couldn't work weekends. What was I to do? A relative was renting us a room for low rent monthly and wrote a letter that she would help us until we were stable. I agree that our financial situation wasn't too great and we couldn't have supported ourselves but that's why we wanted my husband to come so he could either get a job and work or at least look after my son while I worked a job with more hours. We mentioned all of this in our letters. Our relatives wrote letters that they would help with what they could until one of us got a stable job and enough income.

I also worked before I had my baby full time with good pay and a stable job and I sent those pay stubs and an employment letter.

Our life in Iraq is no life. My husband is in the army as I mentioned... We're always on edge. We don't know what's going to happen next. He's tired of it and I'm tired of it and I'm always living in fear.

Anyways... Now my plan is to take a 5 month course for medical office assistant, get a proper job with better hours, and reapply. We also now have some savings in Iraq which we could also use.. Other than that I don't know what else I can do. We are just looking for a better life.
 

athraa.abb

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Alurra71 said:
Your financial situation is not necessarily the reason you were denied. The main reason you were denied is likely that you didn't give the VO enough evidence to prove that you and your husband would support yourselves once he was a landed immigrant. You don't have to make a lot of money, but you do have to have a good plan of action about how you will support yourselves. What skills does your husband posses? What does he do in the army? How would he be able to apply those skills to a job once he is in Canada? How much would that type of job pay annually? Would you be sharing the care taking of your child once he is in Canada? If yes, would your current employer give you more hours? ...

It is your job to satisfy the VO that your family will not be a financial drain to the Canadian taxpayers. You didn't provide them with that needed assurance and were denied because they feel you will immediately seek welfare the moment he signs that COPR. Fix that issue and you'll see a different outcome.
As I explained in my post above, we talked about our plan and told them that I needed him to look after my son while I worked more hours or he could get a job in construction or painting. We told them we had relatives that would support us until we were stable.