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We converted this conversation as a point scoring post for University vs College. I guess the intention of this post was to encourage colleges' applicants that they have also got better opportunities in Canada. Yes, a master degree holder has no comparison with diploma holder but this doesn't mean that diploma holder has nothing in Canada. They too have good future ahead provided they have good presentation/communication/technical etc. skills.
 

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Vipul.Varinder said:
Hello
I am varinder Singh or vipul.. I came to canada in sept 2011 on student Visa. I love this country. I just made this profile, when suddenly i checked a post from some random member about real image of canada.
He critized colleges, its education system, Thats hurts my feelings.
I am a student from Centennial college. I am working in cibc bank as IT developer guy for 1 year contract.
Even still i am on student visa.
LEt me tell u what is here.
If you think you are a practical guy than thesis matured.. go for college.
If you think, you want to know more about a particular subject, go for college.No matter where you go, university or college, if you are good enough in english and you do not have accent, you are hired..
Because every one knows, a fresh graduate does know everything but can not do anything.
SO they are looking for a candidate who has communication skills.
I have some friends from UFT, they are not being hired by any company, but some are from humber college, who are working in ROGERS<.I am not critizing the universities, the point i wanna make, is colleges are not for dumb A..es. Prove yourself,
ANd MAsters, I found this word funny, People should know athe meaning of tHIS WORD. maSTERS IS KIND OF PERFECTION SOMe ONES'S FIELD. iTS NOT ABOUT STUDY OR GETTING gpa.
Even my manager who is making ton of money is not master graduate, rare people do masters here, no one asks you about your study profile unless u cleared your interview.
as simple. so do wat u want. but for god sake, do not think, master degree is key to success.!!!

And finally do no aim for PR or A job, its our learning period, learn as much as you can

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Really appreciate you friend.
You have shown us the real image of Canada.

Thanks for the post and keep us known with the real facts of canada
Specially for those says "CANADA IS DREAMLAND".
 

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Hey, my friend went to humber for 1 yr wireless communication course in Jan'12.
after completion of first semester , he was hired (for 4 months may'12 to aug'12) by one prof to teach in second semester in same course.
He is making some 400$ per month.
i want to know what are the chances of getting job if professor gives his recommendation. Does if make any difference at the time of interview ?

your reply may clear our sight of path for future.....
\come here u will know.. a recommendation or reference by ur teacher or even friend,,, is worthy or i can say, its more than that...
its hard to find this, even every1 trying this....so ur friend is lucky who found that ...
best wishes!!!
 

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Inam89 said:
We converted this conversation as a point scoring post for University vs College. I guess the intention of this post was to encourage colleges' applicants that they have also got better opportunities in Canada. Yes, a master degree holder has no comparison with diploma holder but this doesn't mean that diploma holder has nothing in Canada. They too have good future ahead provided they have good presentation/communication/technical etc. skills.

dude,,, i gave up to clarify my point ,, no one cares what u have,, its not like south asia where uni holds more value... come here,,, u will find people pursuing college after masteres or even during masters,,, for couple of reasons one of the reason is practical AND LOCAL approach.. provided by colleges..
Bitches,,, please "a master degree holder has no comparison with diploma holder"... Dude,,, please i know u r going for masters... but please.. do nt over estimate the value of ur masters unless u have international experience or canadian valuable experience....
 

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Your skills related to field and specially communication skills matter a lot in getting good Job , this is not only true for Canada but also for any other country..............
 

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ppl who say that masters degree has no worth are just satisfying theirselves coz they were not able to get into good uni or they couldnt get higher education like masters, so in my opinion diploma can't b compared with masters at all even if they get 100 times better job than masters degree holder.
 

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Vipul.Varinder said:
dude,,, i gave up to clarify my point ,, no one cares what u have,, its not like south asia where uni holds more value... come here,,, u will find people pursuing college after masteres or even during masters,,, for couple of reasons one of the reason is practical AND LOCAL approach.. provided by colleges..
*censored word*es,,, please "a master degree holder has no comparison with diploma holder"... Dude,,, please i know u r going for masters... but please.. do nt over estimate the value of ur masters unless u have international experience or canadian valuable experience....
Are you insane? You are misguiding everyone. Just because you are in Canada at this point in time doesn't mean that you know everything. I have my friends, colleagues and seniors in Canada, some of them have done master's and some of them are diploma/PG diploma holders and I know how much difference is in their jobs and responsibilities.

If master degree worth nothing then Ontario would not have launched a pilot project specifically for master's degree holder. Canadian experience class would not have the requirement of master's degree. You are comparing an apple to an orange and you are trying to prove that both are exactly the same.
 

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furqanali59 said:
ppl who say that masters degree has no worth are just satisfying theirselves coz they were not able to get into good uni or they couldnt get higher education like masters, so in my opinion diploma can't b compared with masters at all even if they get 100 times better job than masters degree holder.

dude if that is the case.. lem tell u ... i came here to pursue masters frm uf waterloo..... dude.... i found it hilarious.... u ppl think u will get a good job worth 8000$ per month... r u serious??// one of the post i posted earlier try to find ps1,,, and ur field.. if u found more than 50000$... let me know....
why u ppl think.. masters is like ??/???? come here... u will find people who r in colleges even after masters or during masters?????
 

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Vipul.Varinder said:
dude if that is the case.. lem tell u ... i came here to pursue masters frm uf waterloo..... dude.... i found it hilarious.... u ppl think u will get a good job worth 8000$ per month... r u serious??// one of the post i posted earlier try to find ps1,,, and ur field.. if u found more than 50000$... let me know....
why u ppl think.. masters is like ??/???? come here... u will find people who r in colleges even after masters or during masters?????
everthing doesnt revolve around money, my friend! dignity and honour which comes with masters degree can't be replaced with a simple diploma. lol its just my own opinion BTW.
 

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Inam89 said:
Are you insane? You are misguiding everyone. Just because you are in Canada at this point in time doesn't mean that you know everything. I have my friends, colleagues and seniors in Canada, some of them have done master's and some of them are diploma/PG diploma holders and I know how much difference is in their jobs and responsibilities.

If master degree worth nothing then Ontario would not have launched a pilot project specifically for master's degree holder. Canadian experience class would not have the requirement of master's degree. You are comparing an apple to an orange and you are trying to prove that both are exactly the same.

dude please check .. who can apply for pilot project????? .... do nt take it personally like universities are equal to colleges..... try to think with calm mind.... why i made this thread. only to show u guys a real pic ... about diff between uni or colleges..
 

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Vipul.Varinder said:
dude please check .. who can apply for pilot project????? .... do nt take it personally like universities are equal to colleges..... try to think with calm mind.... why i made this thread. only to show u guys a real pic ... about diff between uni or colleges..
Master degree holder's without a job and diploma holder's are required to have a job (Must). You better check the details.
 

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furqanali59 said:
everthing doesnt revolve around money, my friend! dignity and honour which comes with masters degree can't be replaced with a simple diploma. lol its just my own opinion BTW.
dignity and honour.....??? who will gives u... dude here no ones care about hw much u have studied????
the very first thing they will check in ur resume ur name and ur experience... rest is worthy but after getting in the job field....
 

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Master degree holder's without a job and diploma holder's are required to have a job (Must). You better check the details.
ok dude..u win.. colleges are full of dust and dumb asses like me....
wish u good luck for ur future... i do nt know wat site u r following...!!! here is mine site....
Opportunities Ontario FSW Pilot Program: Who Can Apply

Applicant to Opportunities Ontario under the FSW Pilot must meet the following criteria:

Intend to live and work in Ontario.
Be in one of the five occupations identified by Ontario (Computer Analysts and Consultants/NOC 2171, Software Developers/NOC 2173, Interactive Media Programmers and Developers/NOC 2174, Financial and Investment Analysts/NOC 1112, Mathematicians/NOC 2161).
Have a minimum of 3 years of related, paid, full-time verifiable experience in that occupation within the past 5 years.
Have a minimum of a 3-year degree from a post-secondary institution.
Have a minimum language proficiency of 6.5 for the International English Language Testing System (IELTS) or 4.5 for the Test d’evaluation du français (TEF).
Demonstrate a minimum level of savings/income to support yourself and your dependants according to the following schedule:
 

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Vipul.Varinder said:
ok dude..u win.. colleges are full of dust and dumb asses like me....
wish u good luck for ur future... i do nt know wat site u r following...!!! here is mine site....
Opportunities Ontario FSW Pilot Program: Who Can Apply

Applicant to Opportunities Ontario under the FSW Pilot must meet the following criteria:

Intend to live and work in Ontario.
Be in one of the five occupations identified by Ontario (Computer Analysts and Consultants/NOC 2171, Software Developers/NOC 2173, Interactive Media Programmers and Developers/NOC 2174, Financial and Investment Analysts/NOC 1112, Mathematicians/NOC 2161).
Have a minimum of 3 years of related, paid, full-time verifiable experience in that occupation within the past 5 years.
Have a minimum of a 3-year degree from a post-secondary institution.
Have a minimum language proficiency of 6.5 for the International English Language Testing System (IELTS) or 4.5 for the Test d'evaluation du français (TEF).
Demonstrate a minimum level of savings/income to support yourself and your dependants according to the following schedule:
Try to check this out: http://www.ontarioimmigration.ca/en/pnp/OI_PNPSTUDENTS_MASTERS.html

quote: "If you are a graduate or will soon be graduating from a Masters program from one of Ontario’s publicly funded universities, you may be able to apply to Opportunities Ontario for nomination as a permanent resident, under the International Student Category’s Masters Graduate Stream. Opportunities Ontario has a target of 1,000 nominations in 2012.

Ontario’s Masters Graduate students do not require a job offer."
 
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furqanali59 said:
everthing doesnt revolve around money, my friend! dignity and honour which comes with masters degree can't be replaced with a simple diploma. lol its just my own opinion BTW.
You talk about honour right?
have a look at FSW section of this forum. Why many professionals including doctors are driving trucks in canada.
I wonder Where is their honour?