Re: Does putting an enquiry really delays your application

[Summer]

Hi there,

I am a Canadian citizen and applied for my parents and two brothers (currently in India) in June 2004. The file is now being processed in India since April 2007. In summer, I was in a family gathering and was told by someone that most of the files get processed within 14-16 months; therefore, I should put an enquiry in to see what's going on.

Hense, I put an enquiry in in May 2008 and got a reply back saying it might take upto 33 months for my family to get an interview (which I can see on CIC's website). But the people who I had put this enquiry through told me that if my family doesn't get an updates (an interview) within next 3-4 months we will put another enquiry in. As expected nothing happened and they put another enquiry in which resulted in a similar response saying nothing has changed since the previous enquiry.

Recently, I also heard that if you put an enquiry in before the deadline (33 months in my case) immigration officers might get irritated and delay your case even more.

Now, after this long story, my question is does it really happens that they delay your application if you put an enquiry in as that would be the last thing I would want to happen. Please let me know if you anything about this.

Thank you,

 

[martha marita]

getting in touch is the best way to show your interestb in your application. sometimes due to backlog they tend to may be have missed your application. its good to read cic web and if you see any delays just ask them. i did ask them after i had put my application in 2oo5 then in 2007 march i emailed to ask how long more as there timeline was elapsing. they honestly said coz of backlog and immediately they sent med and police forms through. so its the same as using a lawyer it doesnt change anything

 

[Bhooman]

I am guessing that you are in Canada and your parents are in India. High Commission in New Delhi won't reply until the end of 33 months. Best thing at this time if you want to know what is going on with their (your parents') application, is to order CAIPS notes under information and privacy act. It will take 4-6 weeks after applying and will cost you $5.

 

[Bhooman]

Here is how to order CAIPS notes....

Here are the links to the two forms required.

Authority to release info form - Needs to be signed by principal applicant (your parents to give you authority to receive the CAIPS notes)
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/imm5475e.pdf

Form to order CAIPS
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/atip/form-imm5563.asp

Make sure that you send only 2 forms and $5 cheque or money order, nothing else as requested to the following address...

Public Rights Administration
Citizenship and Immigration Canada
Narono Building
360 Laurier Avenue West, 10th floor
Ottawa, ON
K1A 1L1

Give you a bit of my background, my parents application has been submitted in New Delhi in March 2008 and I have recently ordered CAIPS as I noticed that some of the applications filed in Jan 2008 have received their meds in July 2008 and we haven't heard back for our apps yet.

This CAIPS report will be able to let you see all the notes and reviews done by IO in New Delhi on your parents application and what the hold up is if any. It also will show you when is your next bring forward dates is (i.e. when will they look at your apps again).

 

[Bhooman]

To see the progress at New Delhi CHC please see the following website.
http://www.trackitt.com/canada-immigration-trackers/family-class/

Just noticed on this website that one of the member just got his parents apps approved recently had filed in Sept 2007. I would strongly suggest that you get the CAIPS notes for your parents' application. And more importantly, ordering CAIPS will not have any impact on when and how they process the application at CHC New Delhi and won't delay the processing any further.

I also suggest you to register on trackitt and track your application there and share your time lines with others. It will help others the same way it would help you to compare timelines.

 

[Summer]

Thank you so much Martha and Bhooman. This information helps way more than putting an enquiry in.

Yes Bhooman, I am in Canada and my parents are in India. I have been here for nine years and have only seen my parents three times in these nine years. So like you know it gets pretty hard when you are trying to get them here and nothing is happening. Now I am going to order CAIPS notes just like you suggested.

Once I get the information from CAIPS notes I will share my timeline with others.

Thank you so much again. I greatly appreciate it!!

 

[Bhooman]

CAIPS is all written in codes, I found a decipheral explanation for those codes somewhere on internet, but not able to find it now. I have it on my computer at work. Will post it from work next week.

 

[Summer]

Sounds good. Thank you so much!!

 

[Leon]

You can see caips samples at http://caips.ca/sample.shtml and some translations of codes at http://caipsnotes.com/Docs/Sample_Coding_kit.pdf

 

[Summer]

Thank you Leon. I will need those for sure.

I can't believe how helpful this forum is and I didn't even know anything about it. All I did until now was look at CIC website and wait for something to happen. And the last time processing times were updated on CIC website was September 26, 2007 which doesn't really tell what's going on now.

Thank you everybody for being so helpful. I really appreciate it.

 

[Bhooman]

Here are the codes and its meanings....

(As found on internet)
Permanent Residents / Permanent Resident Determinations


SEX

* 1 or M male
* 2 or F female

MARITAL STATUS

* 1 single
* 2 married
* 3 widowed
* 4 divorced
* 5 separated
* 8 common-law partner


HEIGHT CODE
(Height must be between 31 cm and 268 cm)

* 1 (or metric + height)
* 2 (or imperial + height, 0 for unknown)


EYE COLOUR CODE

* 0 Unknown
* 1 black
* 2 blue
* 3 brown
* 4 green
* 5 hazel
* 6 gray
* 7 other


HEIGHT AND EYE COLOUR VALIDATION CODE

* 0 not defined
* 1 unknown
* 2 confirmed
* 3 estimated


NAME FLAG

* 1 maiden name
* 2 son/daughter of
* 3 other surname or different spelling
* 4 other given name/different spelling or nickname
* 5 spouse's surname
* 6 intended spouse's surname


OFFICIAL LANGUAGE CODE

* 1 fluent in English
* 2 fluent in French
* 3 fluent in both
* 4 fluent in neither


EDUCATIONAL QUALIFICATION CODE

* 00 none
* 01 secondary or less
* 02 formal trade certificate, diploma or apprenticeship e.g. hairdresser
* 03 other non-university certificate or diploma e.g. registered nurse, denial technician
* 04 some university, no degree
* 05 bachelor's degree of first professional degree e.g. BA B.Ed, B.Eng. LLB. MD
* 06 some post graduate, no further degree
* 07 master's degree
* 08 doctorate - PhD


SYNTHETIC NOC CODES (OM OP 97-21)

* 9911.0 Student
* 9992.0 Retired
* 9970.0 Homemaker
* 9980.0 Dependant (other than student)
* 9914.0 New Worker
* 9999.0 Open Work Permit 0001.0 investor


PILOT INDICATOR COPES (PERMANENT RESIDENT ONLY)

* CN1 Control - Independent Class - London
* CN2 Control - Independent Class - Hong Kong
* CN3 Control - Independent Class - New Delhi
* PN1 Pilot - Independent Class - London
* PN2 Pilot- Independent Class - Hong Kong
* PN3 Pilot - Independent Class -New Delhi
* CF3 Control - Family Class - New Delhi
* CF4 Control - Family Class - Singapore
* PF3 Pilot - Family Class - New Delhi
* PF4 Pilot - Family Class - Singapore
* IF3 Imaging - Family Class - New Delhi


PROVINCE

* AB Alberta
* BC British Columbia
* MO Manitoba
* NB New Brunswick
* NF Newfoundland
* NS Nova Scotia
* NT Northwest Territories
* NU Nunavut
* ON Ontario
* PE Prince Edward Island
* PQ Quebec
* SK Saskatchewan
* YT Yukon


FAMILY STATUS CODE

* 1 principal applicant
* 2 dependant is spouse of principal applicant
* 3 neither 2, 4 nor 6 apply
* 4 dependant is a child over 19 or relationship to principal applicant is GRANDSON or GRANDDAUGHTER (pre-Proclamation cases)
* 5 common-law partner
* 6 dependant is child over 22 or relationship to principal applicant is GRANDSON or GRANDDAUGHTER (post-Proclamation cases)


EMP. CODE

* 1 designated occupation
* 3 arranged employment as minister or in family business
* 4 has EMP5056.


ARRANGED EMPLOYMENT TYPE

* 1. Holds Work Permit on the basis of an HRDC Confirmation -R 82(2)(a)
* 2. Holds Work Permit on the basis of an HRDC confirmation -R 82{2)(b)
* 3. HRDC permanent confirmation has been issued -R82(2)(c)


MEDICAL STATUS CODE

* R Documents rec'd from physician, but not yet assessed
* F Case furthered
* B Pending review by Medical Advisory Board
* H Pending decision by HQ
* A Assessed and finalized
* N No document received for this family member


MEDICAL CODES

* M1 enter 01
* M2 enter 02
* M3 enter 03
* M4 enter 04
* M5 enter 05
* M6 enter 06
* M6 enter 06
* M7 enter 07
* M2/3 enter 23
* M4/5 enter 45
* M4/6 enter 46
* M4/7 enter 47
* M6/7 enter 67


IMMIGRANT COST RECOVERY

* FPA fee paid abroad
* FPC fee paid in Canada
* FPE fee paid at Port of Entry
* FPS T11 decision pending - Quebec cases only
* R01 CR or DC case
* R02 Citizens of Finland
* R03 Application commenced before 03/02/86.
* RQ4 found not to be a refugee
* ROS re-opened case, no change in previous coding
* RPA Refund processed abroad (appl. fee)
* RPC Refund processed in Canada (appl. fee)
* 999 none of the above apply


RIGHT OF PERMANENT RESIDENCE FEE

* LFA paid abroad
* LFC paid in Canada
* LFD payment deferred - non PQ
* LFN not applicable
* LFP partial refund
* LFQ payment deferred - Quebec
* LFR refund
* LFS supplementary payment.
* LLA landing loan approved
* LXR exempt refugees (CAIPS offices only)
* LFE paid elsewhere
* LFT file transfer to another mission
* LRC refunded in Canada on FC refused case


TYPE OF CASE

* 2 Ordered Landed
* 3 Early Admission
* 7 19(1)(c), Order-in-Council
* 8 19(2)(a), Ministerial decision


REFUGEE SPECIAL PROGRAMS

* HC1 Humanitarian and Compassionate Consideration
* OYW One Year Window of Opportunity
* UPX Urgent Protection Program
* AWR Assistance to Women at Risk
* REF Convention Refugee Selected Abroad
* SLB Sierra Leone Blendad Sponsorship Case
* DFD De Facto Dependant
* KQF Fast Track Kosovo Refugees
* EXD Bosnian Ex-Detainees


REFERRAL ORGANIZATION (REFUGEE SPECIFIC)

* NONE
* UNHCR


FAMILY CLASS

* FC1 Spouse
* FC2 Fiance(e) (pre-Proclamation cases only)
* FC3 Son/Daughter
* FC4 All parents and grandparents
* FCS Orphaned brother/sister/nephew/niece/grandchild
* FC6 Child to be adopted
* FC7 Other relative
* FC9 Child adopted by a Canadian citizen or permanent resident (IRPA - Effective September 2002)
* FCB Guardianship
* FCC Common Law Partner
* FCE Conjugal Partner
* FCH Family Relationships - H&C


DESIGNATED CLASS

* DC1 Government assistance required
* DC2 Approved IMM1298 or IMM1344 on file
* DC3 Sponsored by group or corporation
* DC4 Self-supporting, government assistance not required
* DC5 Selected under joint assistance sponsorship
* DC8 Refugee claimants; designated class; backlog claimants


INDEPENDENT IMMIGRANT

* AR1 Brother/sister
* AR4 Son/daughter
* ART Other Assisted Relatives
* EN2 Entrepreneur
* SE2 Self-employed
* ND2 Other independent Immigrants
* PV2 Provincial nominee processed abroad


SOURCE COUNTRY

* RS1 Government assistance required
* RS3 Sponsored by group of five or corporation for 12 months (pre-Proclamation only)
* RS4 Self supporting, government assistance not required
* RS5 Special needs case selected under joint assistance sponsorship
* RSX Sponsored by group or corporation for 12-24 months (pre-Proclamation only)
* (IRPA - Effective September 2002)
* RSC Source country with a Community Sponsorship
* RSG Source country sponsored by a Group of Five.
* RSS Source country sponsored by a Sponsorship Agreement Holder (SAH).


ASYLUM COUNTRY

* RA3 Sponsored by group of five or corporation for 12 months (pre-Proclamation only),
* RA4 Self supporting, government assistance not required
* RA5 Special needs case selected under joint assistance sponsorship on an exceptional basis
* RAX Sponsored by group or corporation for 12-24 months (pre-Proclamation only) (IRPA - Effective September 2002)
* RAC Country of asylum with a Community Sponsorship
* RAG Country of asylum sponsored by s Group of Five
* RAS Country of asylum sponsored by a Sponsorship Agreement Holder (SAH).


OTHER CATEGORIES

* DR1 Dependant of a CRS refugee claimant who resides fn Canada and who has not been deemed to be a Convention refugee by the IRB
* DR2 Dependant of a CRS refugee claimant who resides abroad and who has not been deemed to be a Convention refugee in his/her own right
* RM2 Dependant residing abroad of a member of the deferred removal order class
* LC1 Member of the live-in caregiver^ in Canada class and dependants in Canada
* LC2 Dependant residing abroad of a member of the (live-in-caregivers in Canada class
* PD1 Member of the post-determination refugee
* PD2 Dependant of a member of the post determination refugee claimant in Canada class: residing abroad

Effective prior April 1, 1999

* NV1 Investor in private business commercial venture/individual applicant
* NV2 Investor in private business commercial venture/multiple applicant
* NV3 Investor tn privately administered investment syndicate
* NV4 Investor in government administered capital venture funds


Effective April 1st 1999

* NV5 Investor


IRPA - Effective September 2002

* SW1 Skilled Worker


CONVENTION REFUGEE

* CR1 Government assistance required
* CR2 App. undertaking on file as assisted relatives or family class
* CR3 Sponsored by group of five or corporation for T2; months (pre-Proclamation only)
* CR4 Self-supporting, government assistance not required
* CR5 Special needs case selected under joint assistance sponsorship
* CR8 Convention Refugees (CR) and their dependants who are recognized as Convention refugees in their own right by the IRB
* CRX Sponsored by group or corporation for 12-24 months (pre-Proclamation only)


(IRPA - Effective September 2002)

* CRC Convention refugee abroad with a Community Sponsorship
* CRG Convention refugee abroad sponsored by a Group of Five,
* CRS Convention refugee abroad sponsored by a Sponsorship Agreement Holder (SAH)



WORK IN PROCESS (WlP) EVENTS (USER ENTERED)

* C1023 RPRF Requested
* D1Q01 Referred to CIC
* D1005 Application Forwarded to MRCI
* M1004 Requested Info/Documentation Received
* R1001 IMM1017- Medical Instructions issued
* S1000 Letter-Missing Info - Supporting Documentation
* X1002 RPRF Received.
* X1004 Paper File Received
* X1005 Response from MRCI Received
* X1006 Response from CIC Received
* X2002 Refusal Recommended
* X2003 Interview Required
* X2004 Refer to QA
* X2007 Suspended


WORK IN PROCESS (WlP) Events (SYSTEM GENERATED)

* D1020 IMM1000 Created/Updated (pre-Proclamation only)
* D1062 Immigrant Case Re-opened
* D1063 IMM5292 Issued/Updated
* D1064 Immigrant Foil Issued/Updated
* D1065 Change in immigrant Category
* M1000 Application Received
* X1000 Immigrant File Created
* X1001 Interview Date
* X1003 File Transferred
* X1007 File on Loan to Satellite
* X1008 File Returned to RPC
* X1009 File Transferred to Portable CAIPS
* X1010 File Transferred from Portable CAIPS
* X2000 Paper Screening Decision Entered,
* X2001 Selection Decision Entered
* X2005 Security Decision Entered
* X2006 Final Decision Entered
* X3000 Centralized Processing ND Pilot Application
* X3001 Centralized Processing ND Control Application
* X3002 Centralized Processing FC Pilot Application
* X3003 Centralized Processing FC Control Application
* X3004 Imaging Family Class Cases for New Delhi


REGULATIONS

* A92 A93 X86 J88
* M92 M94 N79
* J02 (June 2002. IRPA)


Decision Codes
T-11 PAPER SCREENING DECISION (PSDEC)

* 1 passed
* 2 failed
* 3 withdrawal


T-12 SELECTION DECISION (SELDEC)

* 1 passed
* 2 passed on discretion
* 3 OIC required (pro-Proclamation cases)
* 4 waived
* 5 failed
* 6 failed on discretion
* 7 withdrawn
* S passed (H & C consideration) (for Refugees only)


T-13 SECURITY DECISION (BDEC)

* 1 passed
* 2 omitted - all under 18
* 3 incomplete
* 4 failed


T-13 MEDICAL DECISION (MEDDEC)

* 1 passed
* 2 Incomplete
* 3 failed
* 4 dependant failed


T-13 OTHER REQUIREMENTS (OREQ)

* 1 passed
* 2 OIC obtained
* 3 incomplete
* 4 failed
* 5 failed - criminal
* 6 failed - province
* 7 rehabilitation approved
* 8 rehabilitation denied


T-13 FINAL DECISION (FINDEC)

* 1 visa issued
* 2 permit issued/to be Issued
* 4 refused
* 5 withdrawn


SECURITY DECISION (SDEC)

* 1 passed
* 2 omitted
* 3 pending
* 4 refused


CRIMINALITY DECISION (CDEC)

* 1 passed
* 2 omitted
* 3 pending
* 4 refused


REASON FOR REFUSAL (SELDEC 5) (FOR REFUGEES)

* A Not meeting the definition of CR. RA or RS
* B Not having the ability to successfully establish
* C Not being able to be resettled for financial reasons
* D Medical Admissibility
* E Security
* F Criminality


OTHER ABBREVIATIONS

* FILE BF'D TO : File forward to
* SEC CRIM : Security criminal
* SELDEC: Selection Decision
* PSDEC: Paper Selection Decision
* BDEC: Background Decision
* OREQ: Other Requirement
* MEDDEC: Medical Decision
* FINDEC: Finantial Decision
* IMMCAT: Immigration Catergory
* SW1: Skill Worker 1
* NCR: No Criminal Record
* M01-MO7 : level of Medical assessment. M01 means perfect
* PS: Prescreen (another explain is Paper selection)
* PA: Storage area of your file
* AUTHORITY: ARW, LM seems to be officer's name
* PPS: point at paper screening stage
* PI: Principle immigrant
* XREF:cross referenced applicant
* FOSS: is a central database of applications
* NOC: National Occupation Classification

 

[Summer]

Thank you Bhooman for this easy list to refer to.

I have a question about the first form that my parents are supposed to fill out. It says any dependent childern over 18 years must complete their own copy of this form. Both of my brothers are over 18 years old so do they fill out one copy each?

Thank you,

 

[Bhooman]

Just to be on safe side, while you are getting one from your parents, might as well get it from your brothers. If it is not required, it won't hurt that you have included them. But if it does require and you don't have it, they will send your application back without processing.

I have always been providing them more than they have asked for, and if it all, it had positive influence.

 

[Summer]

Yes, Bhooman. I printed three of them, one for my parents and two for my brothers, but just wanted to confirm before I send them. Have you received yours back or still waiting. Also have you only applied for your parents or any of your siblings are coming too.

Thank you,

 

[Bhooman]

To make it fast, if your parents have internet access have them print out the form and send it as scanned image. Make sure to print it on laser printer to maintain quality. I did it that way to cut the mailing time. I inquired about the report on Friday and they said that they had mailed it on Thursday. So I should be getting it this week. The application is just for my father only.