"Ray of hope" thread for 41st draw.

[shricks]

Hi Guys,

Sharing in case not shared already:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/john-mccallum-substantially-increase-immigration-labour-shortages-1.3718831

 

[raven00090]

I am afraid of CRS scores shooting upwards of 500 all the time when this happens.

 

[johnjkjk]

It doesn't make any sense to do away with LMIA for students. If there's a Canadian willing and able to do the job then why do they need a foreigner? Also LMIA presumably ensures that the market remains competitive. Businesses are always looking to hire below market salary.

This amounts to buying PR (through payment of university fees), rather than necessarily demonstrating skill and an employment need.

Also what labour shortage is McCallum talking about? All reports are that there are very few non-IT skilled jobs available. Surely there cannot be such a great need for taxi drivers?

 

[_Aspirant]

Hi Guys,

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Go through the comment section as well

 

[Donald Trump]

You are talking about Canadian immigration system f***ed up. I'm in US for last 8 years and i have to leave now, because there are not a single program that i can apply or get h1b or whatever to stay here.

I see Canadian government wants smart people with experience, but not long enough they realized that they can bash money from international students. In either way we are all in one pool, some of us are more lucky with higher CRS, some not, let stay cool and calm and wait what is going to happen in next couple of month.

I am with u...been in USA since 2009. Company wont do greencard. CRS score is decent enough...hoping for the best...good luck buddy..

 

[volodyalysak]

I am with u...been in USA since 2009. Company wont do greencard. CRS score is decent enough...hoping for the best...good luck buddy..

Good luck to you as well.

 

[Prats6]

Why are these threads becoming a slinging match for people? The EE System is totally based on demand and supply. If they keep issuing 750 odd ITAs, the numbers won't ever go down. I had some hope when I bumped my score from 380s to 460 to get an ITA finish everything by this year itself, unfortunately, no one knows whats happening and everyone would appreciate to be told the targets atleast.

A lot of people don't want to depend on PNPs as it ties people down (at least morally) to a province and it might not be great for people looking for rightful employment.

When is that half yearly report out?

 

[andy108]

Hi Guys,

Sharing in case not shared already:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/john-mccallum-substantially-increase-immigration-labour-shortages-1.3718831

That would really good... but... will it happen..

 

[mead]

It doesn't make any sense to do away with LMIA for students. If there's a Canadian willing and able to do the job then why do they need a foreigner? Also LMIA presumably ensures that the market remains competitive. Businesses are always looking to hire below market salary.

This amounts to buying PR (through payment of university fees), rather than necessarily demonstrating skill and an employment need.

Also what labour shortage is McCallum talking about? All reports are that there are very few non-IT skilled jobs available. Surely there cannot be such a great need for taxi drivers?

For International students LMIA doesnt make sense.
1. Int students, if they have a job have got it competing against Canadians meaning going through same interview process. This tells me right person is selected for the job.
2. even if Canadians are willing to work they should be able to work. U wouldnt want to hire a mechanic as a doctor just cause mechanic wants to works as a doctor and is a Canadian.
3. Salaries are never discussed unless an offer is made in most cases. Companies r not hiring below market salaries unless its for unskilled job in that case they r not eligible for EE.
4. LMIA does not have current data and system is flawed. To predict market needs is difficult. U can see this from last years EE report.
5. Int students have skills so they r hired after going through same interview process as other canadians not by showing some outside Canada experience which may or may not be genuine.
6. In addition to all this they bring in tuition fees which is 3 times the normal Canadian fees so they subsidize Canadian students.

With so many benefits why would Canada want people from outside who have not contributed a dime to Canadian society and are just calming they have skills.
Now tell me how u propose to demonstrate skills from outside Canada? Should we take ur word for it?

 

[Alexios07]

With so many benefits why would Canada want people from outside who have not contributed a dime to Canadian society and are just calming they have skills.
Now tell me how u propose to demonstrate skills from outside Canada? Should we take ur word for it?

Agreed. That's why Mr.McCallum and IRCC want to prioritize the CEC stream over the FSW.

Giving PR or hiring CEC applicants is pretty much like hiring an internal candidate for a new position in your company instead of hiring a completely new person. With internal applicant, you already know his/her work performance and ethics with proven work experience, knowledge of the company -> everything is verifiable and readily to access. While if you go with an outside candidate, you have to go through a whole interview process, reading resume/cover letter, technical interview then come the training etc.

Therefore, except you have a particularly talented outside candidate, it's always the best choice to go with an internal candidate. Same thing applies for outland FSW applicants. It's not that Canada has anything against you, but everything is just so much easier and clearer for IRCC and legit employers to go with inland CEC applicants.

 

[MH_A]

For International students LMIA doesnt make sense.
1. Int students, if they have a job have got it competing against Canadians meaning going through same interview process. This tells me right person is selected for the job.
2. even if Canadians are willing to work they should be able to work. U wouldnt want to hire a mechanic as a doctor just cause mechanic wants to works as a doctor and is a Canadian.
3. Salaries are never discussed unless an offer is made in most cases. Companies r not hiring below market salaries unless its for unskilled job in that case they r not eligible for EE.
4. LMIA does not have current data and system is flawed. To predict market needs is difficult. U can see this from last years EE report.
5. Int students have skills so they r hired after going through same interview process as other canadians not by showing some outside Canada experience which may or may not be genuine.
6. In addition to all this they bring in tuition fees which is 3 times the normal Canadian fees so they subsidize Canadian students.

With so many benefits why would Canada want people from outside who have not contributed a dime to Canadian society and are just calming they have skills.
Now tell me how u propose to demonstrate skills from outside Canada? Should we take ur word for it?

I had two job interviews, and they both told me that my experience and background was very good and they wanted me. But I told them that I will work for them if they get LMIA for me. The moment I started this subject, they backed off because they did not want to go through the trouble.

It is interesting that one of the companies hired my colleague who has the same situation as me, but he did not ask for LMIA. What I understand from this is that there are no Canadians that are qualified for those jobs, but companies are also afraid to enter the hassle for LMIA process.
I believe this is mainly because we are the first wave of graduates who do not have PR, and this process is unfamiliar for the companies. Basically it is our bad luck!

 

[mead]

I had two job interviews, and they both told me that my experience and background was very good and they wanted me. But I told them that I will work for them if they get LMIA for me. The moment I started this subject, they backed off because they did not want to go through the trouble.

It is interesting that one of the companies hired my colleague who has the same situation as me, but he did not ask for LMIA. What I understand from this is that there are no Canadians that are qualified for those jobs, but companies are also afraid to enter the hassle for LMIA process.
I believe this is mainly because we are the first wave of graduates who do not have PR, and this process is unfamiliar for the companies. Basically it is our bad luck!

yes agreed EE screwed us

 

[mead]

I had two job interviews, and they both told me that my experience and background was very good and they wanted me. But I told them that I will work for them if they get LMIA for me. The moment I started this subject, they backed off because they did not want to go through the trouble.

It is interesting that one of the companies hired my colleague who has the same situation as me, but he did not ask for LMIA. What I understand from this is that there are no Canadians that are qualified for those jobs, but companies are also afraid to enter the hassle for LMIA process.
I believe this is mainly because we are the first wave of graduates who do not have PR, and this process is unfamiliar for the companies. Basically it is our bad luck!

this has happened to me too. Companies are afraid of the process and legality as lot of information has to be disclosed

 

[siriusnick]

This entire LMIA is a rotten trash left by the previous government, it should never applies to anyone who is already reside or employed in Canada. Just like Mead said, just because some PR or Canadian is willing to work does not mean they are qualified to work. This LMIA nonsense made a lot of employers to apply LMIA for their employee who is already working for them. They just post fake ads and conduct fake interviews just to fulfill these formalities. It would be much easier to just regulate the amount of work permit issued directly.

 

[Alexios07]

This entire LMIA is a rotten trash left by the previous government, it should never applies to anyone who is already reside or employed in Canada. Just like Mead said, just because some PR or Canadian is willing to work does not mean they are qualified to work. This LMIA nonsense made a lot of employers to apply LMIA for their employee who is already working for them. They just post fake ads and conduct fake interviews just to fulfill these formalities. It would be much easier to just regulate the amount of work permit issued directly.

I think they should not abolish the whole LMIA thing, just apply that one on outland candidates if they want to claim foreign work exp and for special occupations.

For inland applicants, yes, LMIA is a stupid thing to obtain.