Ray of hope - FSW - 1

[txlonghorn]

Still, I believe that they can do something like "no country can have more than let's say 15% of the total annual quota", I think that that's a middle point because they won't be actually putting a cap for each country, they will just put a limit on how big is the piece that a country can take.

Do you mind explaining? Both sound the same to me - one being a small absolute number and one being a % of a larger absolute number. What am I missing?

 

[Emil1]

Do you mind explaining? Both sound the same to me - one being a small absolute number and one being a % of a larger absolute number. What am I missing?

Sure. If I give a quota of 1000 people for each country, I'm limiting a lot the number of people who will enter to Canada because people in some countries don't even think about migrating and I don't know which country will use their quota or which won't.
If I say that no country will be able to go over 15% of the annual quota that doesn't mean I'm assigning a quota for each country. It just means that if your country goes over 15% I'll stop inviting people from them but anyone in any other country will be able to have their spot until they also get to that 15%.
I'm not really sure that if I explained myself very well, but in the second option the amount of people that can be invited would be considerable higher than in the first option. In the first option, however, you would have more diversity, that is why I said that the second option is a middle point between the actual system and a system where they put a cap for each country.

Now if we want to think in a deeper option then the government should study each country, their population and how many of them are they prepared to accept so they can give a different quota for each country, but I believe that's a lot of work that I doubt they would want to do.


By the way, I think that FSW draws are taking so long that everyone is just trying to look for somebody to blame when there is nobody to blame haha. Some blame to the CEC applicants, other to people from other races or native English speakers or whatever. I just hope that draws begin soon so each one of us can get an ITA and move on.

 

[FurioGiunta]

I've seen you bash on Indian applicants on quite a few occasions so clearly your issue is something more than just the competition. And even if it was what makes you more deserving, just because you struggled and can't achieve as much as them?

If you look at this comment history, he is clearly prejudiced against Indians. I don't know why moderators have deleted my comment calling out his bigotry but have left his comments up. Do you think this guy is going to leave his prejudice at the door when he enters Canada? It's okay to argue for country caps in a healthy way (as people have done in this thread) without belittling the efforts of applicants from a specific nationality.

 

[starlordavuthu]

If you look at this comment history, he is clearly prejudiced against Indians. I don't know why moderators have deleted my comment calling out his bigotry but have left his comments up. Do you think this guy is going to leave his prejudice at the door when he enters Canada? It's okay to argue for country caps in a healthy way (as people have done in this thread) without belittling the efforts of applicants from a specific nationality.

I don't think Mods are being fair on here, they deleted few of my posts and left many questionable posts untouched.

 

[Afroza khanom]

What if we get to see a surprise draw for FSW giving ITA to 50 thousands people at a row!!!! Hahahahah

 

[scylla]

I don't think Mods are being fair on here, they deleted few of my posts and left many questionable posts untouched.

I think they delete based on which posts are reported / flagged by other users and how many people report them. I don't think they actively moderate (i.e. review each post).

 

[cansha]

I see some people are really worried about diversity of Canada. And some of them seem to have been educated from top 100 universities. Sadly there is no correlation between getting a degree and getting an education. Before making unsubstantiated claims one can simply look for official numbers.
I understand it takes more effort to research than to make posts here.

So here it is https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2016/as-sa/98-200-x/2016016/98-200-x2016016-eng.cfm. Official census number from 2016. We will get updated census numbers in 2021. But as per the last census East Indian is at #10 of ethnic groups in Canada. So now should we start arguing about limiting Scottish, Irish and French people?

 

[txlonghorn]

I see some people are really worried about diversity of Canada. And some of them seem to have been educated from top 100 universities. Sadly there is no correlation between getting a degree and getting an education. Before making unsubstantiated claims one can simply look for official numbers.
I understand it takes more effort to research than to make posts here.

So here it is https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2016/as-sa/98-200-x/2016016/98-200-x2016016-eng.cfm. Official census number from 2016. We will get updated census numbers in 2021. But as per the last census East Indian is at #10 of ethnic groups in Canada. So now should we start arguing about limiting Scottish, Irish and French people?

To be fair,

'India became the highest source country of immigration to Canada by 2017, with yearly permanent residents increasing from 30,915 in 2012 to 85,585 in 2019'

'Indians have become one of the fastest growing communities in Canada ... Indian students coming to Canada has jumped from 76,075 in 2016 to 219,855 in 2019, showing a rise of almost 300 per cent '

'A quarter of Canada's immigrants this year arrived from India.. '

Despite going the long, hard route here in the states and it taking years for me to receive my green card, I still support the diversity system for a number of reasons. Primarily, I think any race/culture/ideology with a significant majority leads to social, cultural and political problems.

 

[Rish92]

They should change the name of the system from EE to Indian Immigration Scheme, and open new ways for immigration for non-Indian citizens of the world. I was in the pool since 2018 with 432, then increased to 464, then got 459 and soon to be 454. Always missed the ITA by 7-8 points. I could have become a Canadian citizen if there was a country quota. This is freaking injustice. I have to learn French now.

I would be greateful to the government if they start thinking about diversifying the pool.

Mate your score is just not good enough… end of story.

it’s called skilled immigration, not Indians-preferred immigration, or diversity immigration. It’s Unbiased, unprejudiced.

Whoever gets high score gets in, regardless of country of origin. What’s the point of complaining?

 

[Psyoptica]

To be fair,

'India became the highest source country of immigration to Canada by 2017, with yearly permanent residents increasing from 30,915 in 2012 to 85,585 in 2019'

'Indians have become one of the fastest growing communities in Canada ... Indian students coming to Canada has jumped from 76,075 in 2016 to 219,855 in 2019, showing a rise of almost 300 per cent '

'A quarter of Canada's immigrants this year arrived from India.. '

Despite going the long, hard route here in the states and it taking years for me to receive my green card, I still support the diversity system for a number of reasons. Primarily, I think any race/culture/ideology with a significant majority leads to social, cultural and political problems.

I agree. If immigration is to continue at the rate that it is, Canada would soon be swamped with hordes of Asians and would be unrecognisable. Canada does have its own culture and identity that is worth protecting.

 

[Carmen01]

That's what they guess, yes. And let's say you have foreign experience in healthcare, for example, they might give you more points.

And then take 3years to get licensed to practice? That’s impractical. Anyone in healthcare is better off going to the UK as it is straightforward and you start earning right away.

 

[Carmen01]

What if we get to see a surprise draw for FSW giving ITA to 50 thousands people at a row!!!! Hahahahah

Wake up!!!

 

[Rish92]

I agree. If immigration is to continue at the rate that it is, Canada would soon be swamped with hordes of Asians and would be unrecognisable. Canada does have its own culture and identity that is worth protecting.

These comments are downright racist.

People conveniently forget that Canada as a country didn’t even exist until few hundred years ago.

The real problem is the govt using immigration for short-term economic growth rather than investing in long term infrastructure projects.

Hordes of immigrants, regardless of country of origin, shouldn’t be used as means to fill govt coffers.
Govt should prioritise and streamline employer sponsored PR visas.

anyway, what do I know.

we should focus on forum topic and not deviate.

 

[Afroza khanom]

Wake up!!!

Heheheh

 

[seadrag0n]

These comments are downright racist.

People conveniently forget that Canada as a country didn’t even exist until few hundred years ago.

The real problem is the govt using immigration for short-term economic growth rather than investing in long term infrastructure projects.

Hordes of immigrants, regardless of country of origin, shouldn’t be used as means to fill govt coffers.

Australia was trying to do the same thing but populist opinions made the govt change it’s stance.

Moderation is the key. Govt should prioritise and streamline employer sponsored visas over these FSW draws where millions of outlanders, people with no ties to Canada, are granted PR just becoz their score is high.

anyway, what do I know.

we should focus on forum topic and not deviate.

Imagine landing in Canada and dealing with this especially when looking for a job, I would just book one way ticket back to India and leave. I just hope regular regular Canadian people don't think this way.

This point has been brought up here too many times already and I am starting to feel this could be a real problem to deal with after landing there.