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I can tell you an example of a person who studied French to an extent enough to get an ITA in less than a year.

He is married and was 33 years old, has two kids. He was in the 458 range last year and spend nearly 30000 INR to study French in an institute. After a year's hard work (studied around 6 hours per day, changed the language of his phone to French, watched French TV channels with English subtitles, and dedicated his complete weekend towards studying the language), he appeared for TEF in Chennai, India.

He got a jump of nearly 10 points in his CRS after TEF and the score moved to 468 last October.
He then got NOI from Ontario (IT Tech Draw) on October 15 -> submitted his profile (with spouse and two kids) -> Nomination obtained on Dec 2020 -> Got ITA on Dec -> submitted docs -> Sydney Nova Scotia is the VO -> Everything is now passed and he is awaiting PPR (which will be rolled out once situation stabilizes a bit).

Anything and everything is possible, all that needs is sheer determination and absolute hard work.
I also studied french in less than a year, and have a very good CRS, but all program draws have stopped. Be a little tactful in how you approach this. It's no longer about hard work and maximizing your score.
 
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Hi,

I totally believe you.

Right now, I am on the same boat as the guy you mentioned above. My CRS is 463:
- 30 years old;
- Common-Law (not coming with me to Canada at the same time);
- Two recognized bachelors (Business Administration & Law);
- IELTS L-8,R-9,S-8,W-7 (first time given and nailed it);
- 3+ years of foreign experience.

Started learning French intensively since November 1, 2020, at least 6 hours a day, everyday, by myself. No teacher! Only YouTube and books available online. At the beginning I couldn't understand anything, except "Oui" and "Je t'aime", and now I am able to read and comprehend journalistic articles, understand the majority of conversations in movies and news, and also able to have a constructive conversation with someone.

I will take the TEF Canada next month and will be taking it almost every month until I get CLB 7, because that is the only option left for me.

The CLB 7 will open the door of Ontario to me at a CRS score of 525, valid for French-Speaking stream and FSW.

I am leaving this post here to motivate everyone to do their absolute maximum for their Canadian dream.

Good luck guys, and don't give up!
As far as I know, you can't take TEF Canada every month. There needs to be a 2 month gap between attempts according to the people at the Alliance Francaise I spoke to when I took my exam.

525 will disqualify you for the french speaking stream (i'm assuming you're refering to PNP and not the new french speaking streams open till Nov 2021). They only take people between the scores of ~458-469.
 
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There is something I don't understand about that "French Ontario stream“...

I fulfill all the requirements... And therefore have over 520 points in the crs score. It costs more and last longer... Why should anyone choose that stream instead of fsw?
Because they are meant for people who do not have a high enough score to compete in the regular draws. Maybe they have low IELTS scores, or only have an international bachelor's and 1 year of experience. It is this very reason that they limit the scores for the french speaking draw (458-469 is the rough range to qualify as of right now). So with a score of 520+, you will not qualify for this draw at the moment, until they decide to increase the acceptable upper limit of CRS.
 

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Because they are meant for people who do not have a high enough score to compete in the regular draws. Maybe they have low IELTS scores, or only have an international bachelor's and 1 year of experience. It is this very reason that they limit the scores for the french speaking draw (458-469 is the rough range to qualify as of right now). So with a score of 520+, you will not qualify for this draw at the moment, until they decide to increase the acceptable upper limit of CRS.
OK thanks!
 

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Because they are meant for people who do not have a high enough score to compete in the regular draws. Maybe they have low IELTS scores, or only have an international bachelor's and 1 year of experience. It is this very reason that they limit the scores for the french speaking draw (458-469 is the rough range to qualify as of right now). So with a score of 520+, you will not qualify for this draw at the moment, until they decide to increase the acceptable upper limit of CRS.
This makes sense . : )
 

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i know it from people that got Ontario’s nomination, most of them were sitting in the pool for months but they’ve got invitation right after they’ve changed their first language to French.
Understood!

What about you? Your signature says that you have CLB 7 in French and CLB 9 in English, plus masters. Have you tried to put French as your primary language or perhaps that doesn't give you enough points to qulify for the threshold?
 

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As far as I know, you can't take TEF Canada every month. There needs to be a 2 month gap between attempts according to the people at the Alliance Francaise I spoke to when I took my exam.

525 will disqualify you for the french speaking stream (i'm assuming you're refering to PNP and not the new french speaking streams open till Nov 2021). They only take people between the scores of ~458-469.
Taking TEF every two months seems a good idea actually!

Yes, I am aware about the score range and probably the reason why it is, but I am absolutely certain that having French at CLB 7 would definitely increase the chances for immigration to Canada, if not Ontario, hello Manitoba!

I see you are sitting at 521 points, great job my friend!
 

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Understood!

What about you? Your signature says that you have CLB 7 in French and CLB 9 in English, plus masters. Have you tried to put French as your primary language or perhaps that doesn't give you enough points to qulify for the threshold?
Yeah, exactly, French first gives me around 414 crs score
 

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I can tell you an example of a person who studied French to an extent enough to get an ITA in less than a year.

He is married and was 33 years old, has two kids. He was in the 458 range last year and spend nearly 30000 INR to study French in an institute. After a year's hard work (studied around 6 hours per day, changed the language of his phone to French, watched French TV channels with English subtitles, and dedicated his complete weekend towards studying the language), he appeared for TEF in Chennai, India.

He got a jump of nearly 10 points in his CRS after TEF and the score moved to 468 last October.
He then got NOI from Ontario (IT Tech Draw) on October 15 -> submitted his profile (with spouse and two kids) -> Nomination obtained on Dec 2020 -> Got ITA on Dec -> submitted docs -> Sydney Nova Scotia is the VO -> Everything is now passed and he is awaiting PPR (which will be rolled out once situation stabilizes a bit).

Anything and everything is possible, all that needs is sheer determination and absolute hard work.
Hi, I see that that this post is motivational. However can help it, but ask, is he a FSW-O and what is his AOR as you said all his stages is passed? Because i received my ITA on Dec 2020 and awaiting for further updates. Thanks
 

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Canada's immigration plans need to consider pandemic and economic uncertainties


According to Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC), the government of Canada aims to welcome 401,000 new permanent residents in 2021, 411,000 in 2022, and 421,000 in 2023. Canada received only 185,00 new immigrants against a target of 341,000 in 2020.

To compensate for the shortfall, Immigration Minister Marco Mendicino recently announced a special one-time plan to grant permanent residence to 90,000 recent international graduates and temporary foreign workers with work experience in 40 essential health-care occupations, as well as 95 other essential occupations. This will account for nearly a quarter of the immigration target set for 2021; the plan will begin on May 5 for the next six months or until the target is achieved.

This is a smart move. It will save on processing time of immigration applications, reduce travel in a restricted international environment, and many of the applicants are already employed and integrated into Canadian society.
Welcoming another 311,000 new immigrants this year and over 400,000 in the next two years in the current socioeconomic conditions raises important questions.

Do we have opportunities available for those who lost jobs during the pandemic?
Are we creating enough new positions in a COVID-hit economy to absorb a large number of new immigrants every year?
Will it be easy for newcomers to get settled in Canada in an uncertain economic and health situation?

There have been layoffs in airlines, entertainment, manufacturing, retail, restaurants, travel, tourism, and many other industries. It is not easy to regain 450,000 jobs that have not been recovered since the start of the pandemic. StatsCan says Canada's jobs recovery improved in March, adding more than 303,000 net new jobs, as the unemployment rate fell to 7.5 per cent, but the unemployment rate for immigrants who arrived five years earlier or less was 13.5 per cent in 2020.

A report in the Canadian Press on March 2 says COVID-19 shuttered businesses and led to millions out of work; real GDP shrank 5.4 per cent, the steepest annual decline since 1961.Job creation is very important for economic growth. Increased employee earning leads to higher rates of consumer spending, which benefits businesses that depend on sales to stay open and pay vendors. Economic and financial instability such as disruptions to industrial production, falling commodity prices, financial market volatility, export and import difficulties, and rising insecurity are preventing economic growth and job creation in Canada.

It appears we don't have a clear plan for the future; businesses are advised to close and reopen with short notice and without recognition that this incurs large costs for the owners, who want some certainty. This can't be provided without stability in controlling the spread of COVID-19. Frankly, we have chaos, confusion, and contradiction in vaccine rollout plans and schedules in Canada.

Who can create and offer jobs to more than 400,000 newcomers in this situation of uncertainty?
I lost my manufacturing job last September and am still sitting at home with 20 years of Canadian experience.
The anxiety level of Canadians is high. Children and parents are getting frustrated with the repeated openings and closures of schools resulting in uncertainty. Restrictions and the closure of workplaces with outbreaks are further delaying economic recovery and job creation in the country, especially in Alberta and Ontario.

In Alberta a seven-day rolling average of COVID-19 cases hit 440.5 cases per million population on May 3, setting a new record. It's also more than double the national rate of 210.3, and well above the second-worst province, Ontario, which has a rate of 247.7 per million population. These two provinces are generally more appealing and important for newcomers, as they find more opportunities there.

The 2021 federal budget proposes $101 billion in new spending in addition to $350 billion already spent to fight COVID-19 and to help affected families and workers by boosting the economy. This is generous spending, but the realities in hospitals and businesses are alarming and don't show a rosy picture.

The immigration ministry shows the other view with plans to integrate more than 400,000 new immigrants every year. This is good for Canada in non-pandemic circumstances and helps business and economic development during normal socio-economic activities.
The new immigrants face the challenges of language fluency, education assessments, searching for career-track jobs, housing, access to local services, transportation, cultural differences, extreme weather conditions -- and now 14 days quarantine on arrival, with limited money in their wallet.

Can we imagine newcomers easily overcoming these challenges in the prevailing conditions?
New variants of COVID-19 are spreading and COVID-19 control and vaccination rollouts in countries like China, India, Pakistan, and the Philippines, which are major sources of immigrants to Canada, are facing challenges. Some of those incoming may not be in a good state of health.

Canada is a land of opportunity. Immigrants have built this country and their contributions have been admirable. Earlier waves of immigrants came from Europe, and later in the 1970s they started coming from Asia, Africa, South America and the Middle East, and they are serving this country in every sphere of life.

In addition to permanent residents, migrant workers coming from Mexico and other countries help Canada grow agricultural produce in extremely difficult working conditions and Canadians are grateful to them for their important contribution to our economy.
With the spread of COVID-19, the situation has changed. We need a practical approach to immigration levels, keeping in mind the realities of the time and the uncertainties of the economy. A little postponement in the implementation of immigration plans may help us keep a balance between unemployment and recovery.

https://rabble.ca/columnists/2021/05/canadas-immigration-plans-need-consider-pandemic-and-economic-uncertainties
 

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Canada’s new International Graduate stream reaches cap
IRCC is no longer accepting applications for the new PR pathways for international student graduates.

Canada’s new International Graduate stream for English-speakers has reached its limit of 40,000 applications.

The quota was reached today, May 7, at 1:01 PM Eastern Standard Time. This and five other new streams for essential workers and French-speaking international graduates launched yesterday at around 12:00 PM EST.

Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) announced it would be launching the six streams on April 14. The purpose of the streams is to provide additional immigration pathways to international graduates and essential workers living in Canada during the pandemic. IRCC is aiming for some 90,000 individuals to gain permanent residence through the streams. The focus on offering more permanent residence pathway to those in Canada is a function of such individuals not facing the same level of coronavirus-related disruptions as immigration candidates overseas.

Over 5,000 applications have been submitted under the English-speaking Workers in Canada streams (out of a total cap of 50,000 applications). Uptake for the French-speaking streams has been low so far, but this is partly a function of the streams not having caps and a generous deadline of November 5, 2021.

English-speaking streams will remain open until November 5, or when caps are met, whichever comes first.


Why such high demand for English-speaking International Graduate stream?

There was a large demand for the graduate stream due to a high number of temporary residents in Canada, and lower selection criteria.

There could be up to 1.5 million work and study permit holders currently in Canada. A large share of them are work permit holders, but there are also about 530,000 study permit holders.

The eligibility criteria allowed for candidates to have a Canadian Language Benchmark (CLB) of 5. To compare, most candidates under the popular Canadian Experience Class (CEC) need a CLB 7. In addition, graduates did not need one year of work experience to be eligible under the stream that hit its cap today. Generally speaking, at least one year of Canadian work experience is needed for such graduates to be eligible for other immigration programs, such as the CEC.

https://www.cicnews.com/2021/05/canadas-new-international-graduate-stream-reaches-cap-0517985.html#gs.09cbhg


 

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