Ray of Hope - 85th Draw
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why the number and frequency of draws are not increasing in 2018 , in 2017 they increased by quite a number by Feb. Did CIC issue more number of draws in 2017 ??
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Well, in this forum I belong to the despised tiny minority of so-called realists. Yeah, I'm at odds with unicornsSo my advice would always be for any sort of action instead of just waiting and hoping. However, I'm sitting at 426 and you are at 438 which for me is as distant as Andromeda galaxy.
So, if I were you I would still spend all my spare time learning French and I would postpone registering for the test in May as long as possible, because you are so close, only 4 points away. I would register if I didn't receive ITA until the deadline.
In my opinion learning French will always pay off whether in the tests or in real life. I was learning French before I got ITA last spring, just in case I still kept on learning it after I got ITA , and truly didn't regret these extra efforts when I accidentally lost ITA.
By the way 28 K sounds like a hell a lot of money. I've paid 150 euros which I consider very expensive too
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Can you pls suggest which books/websites/apps to use if one is intended to take TEF? I am a TEF aspirant but not sure which materials should i use as a complete beginner.
Received this on a whatsapp group:
So the latest IRCC draw of the 21st February was a painful one, at 442.
#funfact - The CIC draw of 22nd Feb, 2017 was 441, though with 3611 ITAs.
The following 2 draws in March were 434 and 441 with 3884 and 3749 ITAs each and then April saw 2 back to back draws. So in all, there were 3 draws in April and 3 draws in May.
All these factors helped bring the CRS down to its lowest ever at 413 on 31st May 2017.
If we are to draw any comparisons then the first matching factor is the score of 442 of 21st Feb.
It is quite obvious that CIC wished and forced the CRS down with large number of ITAs per draw in April and May.
As seen in 2017, the total number of ITAs issued were around 85000 in order to meet its landed immigrant targets. With a slight increase in 2018, it is assumed that they will issue at least 86000-88000 ITAs. Which directly indicates that at some point in time they will need to increase the draw size since as of now they have issued only 11500 ITAs this year. This leaves us with a rough average of 7500 ITAs per month for the remaining year.
However what does not match with the last year, is the fact that there are 50% more candidates in the pool this year and most of them are high scorers. This is one of the things that will resist CRS drop.
Recommendations for people who have received NOIs from OINP::
Ontario has adopted a new system of issuing NOIs this year and it is difficult to predict what is their selection criteria or real game plan. They are obviously issuing NOIs to point range very close to the CIC draws. But with the new 45days acceptance limit, it is making a lot of candidates quite nervous and indecisive.
So the first suggestion is that if you have received the NOI then possibly wait and observe the trends for atleast 2 forthcoming draws to see how the scores are faring.
The second suggestion is for the range 433-437, If you guys don't mind the $1500, then go ahead with your NOI. The reason being that if the CRS does not drop as we are hoping and praying for the next 2-3 months, then you would have missed your chance for NOIs, whether you can get it again or not is something we don't know. In the big picture, spending this $1500 will be worth it, as you will know for sure that you will get your ITA post-nomination and will be on your way to PR. That stressful wait of a draw every 2 weeks will not be your concern. If at all CRS does drop before you get your nomination, then just know that you did what you had to do and move on. It's a judgment call that you will have to make. Not only you but everyone who receives NOIs henceforth.
For ICT NOCs under 400 = Well we really don't know, and all we can do is hope and pray. Make sure your profile is ready and created and wait for that window of opportunity. Meanwhile, do everything you possibly can to increase your CRS.
For scores under 415-420s = If there is an area which can help you increase your CRS, then please pursue it. Don't wait. If you have done everything you could, then along with others just pray and hope that CIC repeats its trend from 2017 and start issuing larger number of ITAs per draw and repeat the back to back draws.
For scores 420s-435s = I personally feel its a matter of time, of course, it does need that push from CIC and I hope it happens sooner than later.
For everyone else, review PNP websites for your program eligibility. SINP is making some changes to its system as well and the grapevine says that NSNP is also upgrading its systems. Manitoba has already actively started its draws, PEI continues with its long processing times and Atlantic Program continues to be a bit of damp squib. For others, job offers are required. So if you can find one, lucky you!!
Keep the faith, hold on to your patience rails and continue to radiate your positive vibes all around. If you believe in it strongly enough, it will surely happen.
#foreverhopeful
So the latest IRCC draw of the 21st February was a painful one, at 442.
#funfact - The CIC draw of 22nd Feb, 2017 was 441, though with 3611 ITAs.
The following 2 draws in March were 434 and 441 with 3884 and 3749 ITAs each and then April saw 2 back to back draws. So in all, there were 3 draws in April and 3 draws in May.
All these factors helped bring the CRS down to its lowest ever at 413 on 31st May 2017.
If we are to draw any comparisons then the first matching factor is the score of 442 of 21st Feb.
It is quite obvious that CIC wished and forced the CRS down with large number of ITAs per draw in April and May.
As seen in 2017, the total number of ITAs issued were around 85000 in order to meet its landed immigrant targets. With a slight increase in 2018, it is assumed that they will issue at least 86000-88000 ITAs. Which directly indicates that at some point in time they will need to increase the draw size since as of now they have issued only 11500 ITAs this year. This leaves us with a rough average of 7500 ITAs per month for the remaining year.
However what does not match with the last year, is the fact that there are 50% more candidates in the pool this year and most of them are high scorers. This is one of the things that will resist CRS drop.
Recommendations for people who have received NOIs from OINP::
Ontario has adopted a new system of issuing NOIs this year and it is difficult to predict what is their selection criteria or real game plan. They are obviously issuing NOIs to point range very close to the CIC draws. But with the new 45days acceptance limit, it is making a lot of candidates quite nervous and indecisive.
So the first suggestion is that if you have received the NOI then possibly wait and observe the trends for atleast 2 forthcoming draws to see how the scores are faring.
The second suggestion is for the range 433-437, If you guys don't mind the $1500, then go ahead with your NOI. The reason being that if the CRS does not drop as we are hoping and praying for the next 2-3 months, then you would have missed your chance for NOIs, whether you can get it again or not is something we don't know. In the big picture, spending this $1500 will be worth it, as you will know for sure that you will get your ITA post-nomination and will be on your way to PR. That stressful wait of a draw every 2 weeks will not be your concern. If at all CRS does drop before you get your nomination, then just know that you did what you had to do and move on. It's a judgment call that you will have to make. Not only you but everyone who receives NOIs henceforth.
For ICT NOCs under 400 = Well we really don't know, and all we can do is hope and pray. Make sure your profile is ready and created and wait for that window of opportunity. Meanwhile, do everything you possibly can to increase your CRS.
For scores under 415-420s = If there is an area which can help you increase your CRS, then please pursue it. Don't wait. If you have done everything you could, then along with others just pray and hope that CIC repeats its trend from 2017 and start issuing larger number of ITAs per draw and repeat the back to back draws.
For scores 420s-435s = I personally feel its a matter of time, of course, it does need that push from CIC and I hope it happens sooner than later.
For everyone else, review PNP websites for your program eligibility. SINP is making some changes to its system as well and the grapevine says that NSNP is also upgrading its systems. Manitoba has already actively started its draws, PEI continues with its long processing times and Atlantic Program continues to be a bit of damp squib. For others, job offers are required. So if you can find one, lucky you!!
Keep the faith, hold on to your patience rails and continue to radiate your positive vibes all around. If you believe in it strongly enough, it will surely happen.
#foreverhopeful
First would like to thank all the wonderful seniors here for helping me find the right resources which helped me get maximum points on IELTS (3rd attempt). I am really looking forward to next step now (CRS 439- emigrating alone) and have few questions I need help with:
1. Is my 3rd IELTS TRF number same as the 1st one?
2. Should I apply for my PCC from USA now or should I wait to see ITA CRS score trend for couple draws? I am living in my home country, Asia, for a year now and before that lived in USA for almost a decade.
3. Is there a chance for OINP with CRS score 421 (when accompanied by wife) by the end of Nov, 2018? I do not mind waiting 5-6 months longer and paying CAD 3000.00 if there is a possibility of us emigrating together.
4. Can I apply under one NOC code (as long as my job requirements are identical to that NOC) even though my job title is listed under different NOC? (I am planning to apply under NOC 2263B whereas my job title "Infection control Officer (ICO)" is listed under 3012. I am not a nurse by education and not all ICO are required to be nurse, especially in Ontario ).
TIA for all the suggestions.
1. Is my 3rd IELTS TRF number same as the 1st one?
2. Should I apply for my PCC from USA now or should I wait to see ITA CRS score trend for couple draws? I am living in my home country, Asia, for a year now and before that lived in USA for almost a decade.
3. Is there a chance for OINP with CRS score 421 (when accompanied by wife) by the end of Nov, 2018? I do not mind waiting 5-6 months longer and paying CAD 3000.00 if there is a possibility of us emigrating together.
4. Can I apply under one NOC code (as long as my job requirements are identical to that NOC) even though my job title is listed under different NOC? (I am planning to apply under NOC 2263B whereas my job title "Infection control Officer (ICO)" is listed under 3012. I am not a nurse by education and not all ICO are required to be nurse, especially in Ontario ).
TIA for all the suggestions.
Hey there,
Are you in TEF Canada test whatsapp group? If you interested, PM me your tel number or contact with my sister @trumprefugee
You will have some info about test and learn French as well in that group under my supervision
Hi,freakin missed CLB9 again
unfortunately I didn't pass any courses or guidance for preparation. But I've touched many materials as I actively searched for best materials to teach myself and from my own experience I can recommend you those that I've found the most rewarding.
As for the exam and specific self preparation itself I guess this manual is the e that can be found:
https://w w w.amazon.fr/TEF-250-activit%C3%A9s-Sylvie-Pons/dp/2090333480
Of course there some TEF test examples on Youtube. You will find more in the sidebar based on the context but here is something to start with:
https://w w w.youtube.com/watch?v=cIjyVp8XTQ4
Do not miss the version with corrections: https://w w w.youtube.com/watch?v=JtBPsiBcP1o
Please note: usually such videos have their versions with corrections. The link is printed in the description of the original video.
At least you will get a good understanding of what the exam looks like and what are your chances to succeed in it.
As for the general preparation I can tell you that the most important factor is your perseverance on it. Still I can recommend these three books what I feel helped me the most:
https://w w w.amazon.com/Oxford-Hachette-French-Dictionary-Marie-Helene-Correard/dp/0198614225
This dictionary looks big and daunting at first but actually it has a very smart way of teaching you the word sense through the context of very apt phrases and in the context.
https://w w w.amazon.com/French-Grammar-Really-Teach-Yourself/dp/1444179438
Simply the best grammar for the beginner that I had in my arms.
https://w w w.amazon.com/French-English-Bilingual-Dictionary-Dictionaries/dp/1465459286
This one is great when you don't have enough time to study seriously, let say when you drink your coffee and take a snack.
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Sorry folks for a long reply but I find this more worthy and useful to occupy some space here than the never ending annoying "It's just 10 minutes after the ITA announcement, where the hell is the email?" or "My score is 489, do I stand a slight chance at the next draw?".
Hi,
I've misplaced my answer here:
https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/ray-of-hope-85th-draw.545090/page-9#post-6741980
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Yes 1 week gap draw happened on March 1 and that was the lucky day we got our ITA!
Hopefully, again it is a 1 week gap draw this year.
Bonjour my friends
I'm still working on my French though and know nothing except 2-3 words.
Just wanted to inform you all that I landed in Canada on 20th Feb and not to mention, it is freaking cold in Montreal. First thing I tried after landing was Tim Hortons infamous coffee. Personally, I was little disappointed as it was nothing compared to Costa but it's all right. Crispy chicken burger was lip smacking though.
I got my Social insurance number already and going to apply for another document that my employer needs. By the way, I'm starting my new job on Monday.
I understand it is going to be a long road for me to be a permanent resident and I'm not in hurry either.
Also, the view from my apartment is amazing. I'm living in downtown currently and everything is available right below my apartment.
I'd like to know if there are meet ups being held in Montreal or around as I'm new to Canada and don't know anyone yet. Hoping to see you all soon in person.
I'm still working on my French though and know nothing except 2-3 words.
Just wanted to inform you all that I landed in Canada on 20th Feb and not to mention, it is freaking cold in Montreal. First thing I tried after landing was Tim Hortons infamous coffee. Personally, I was little disappointed as it was nothing compared to Costa but it's all right. Crispy chicken burger was lip smacking though.
I got my Social insurance number already and going to apply for another document that my employer needs. By the way, I'm starting my new job on Monday.
I understand it is going to be a long road for me to be a permanent resident and I'm not in hurry either.
Also, the view from my apartment is amazing. I'm living in downtown currently and everything is available right below my apartment.
I'd like to know if there are meet ups being held in Montreal or around as I'm new to Canada and don't know anyone yet. Hoping to see you all soon in person.
Hello everyone
I am on 435 and my ielts has expired last week. I am planing to give it next month. There is no change in my application yet.
Would my points be automatically effected or they will when i will re-enter my new ielts score ?
Please help me clear my confusion.
I am on 435 and my ielts has expired last week. I am planing to give it next month. There is no change in my application yet.
Would my points be automatically effected or they will when i will re-enter my new ielts score ?
Please help me clear my confusion.
WoundedTiger
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Had a chat with a friend who is also waiting for ITA...He wife sat for IELTS and the CRS will be 450 w/o ECA for his wife. Now, he was talking to his consultant who pointed that eventually your spouse would need to have English Proficiency test score (read IELTS) to apply for Job in Canada.
Do you think if one ends up in competition for a job in Canada but if the language scores are available then you stand to gain something from it....This would really make compelling case to for spouses to prepare for IELTS.
Comments awaited
Do you think if one ends up in competition for a job in Canada but if the language scores are available then you stand to gain something from it....This would really make compelling case to for spouses to prepare for IELTS.
Comments awaited
WoundedTiger
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Super!!!Bonjour my friends
I'm still working on my French though and know nothing except 2-3 words.
Just wanted to inform you all that I landed in Canada on 20th Feb and not to mention, it is freaking cold in Montreal. First thing I tried after landing was Tim Hortons infamous coffee. Personally, I was little disappointed as it was nothing compared to Costa but it's all right. Crispy chicken burger was lip smacking though.
I got my Social insurance number already and going to apply for another document that my employer needs. By the way, I'm starting my new job on Monday.
I understand it is going to be a long road for me to be a permanent resident and I'm not in hurry either.
Also, the view from my apartment is amazing. I'm living in downtown currently and everything is available right below my apartment.
I'd like to know if there are meet ups being held in Montreal or around as I'm new to Canada and don't know anyone yet. Hoping to see you all soon in person.
All the very best..do well brother!