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Ray of Hope - 73rd Draw

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My prediction of draw #73
There is a huge pool of candidates between 430-433 just waiting to be flushed! So CRS falling below 430 seems very remote
 
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:D - Lol.... My son is Hyperactive. Only crime I can say here is he is keeping us busy at his work while we are preparing IELTS :)
BTW, Thanks for your reply on this.
Hahaha, that's what you get with these little ones.
 
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Okay you crazy people, since all of you are desperately waiting for the next draw and apprehensive about the cut-off limit, here's some rational prediction for the next draw based on some logical analysis. I am not gonna sugar coat it. I am gonna present the facts as they are:

On Sep 14th, below is the approx pool count:
0601 - 1200 >> 208
0450 - 0600 >> 850
0401 - 0450 >> 12800

Now 1 week later, when the draw was done on Sep 20th, we can ASSUME the pool condition might be like this:
0601 - 1200 >> 220
0450 - 0600 >> 930
0401 - 0450 >> 14000

Interesting thing to note here is that the ITA was given to (rounding off) ~ 2900 applicants out of which approx 1150 (220+930) were above 450.
Which means there were only 1750 (2900 - 1150) applicants in the range of 433 to 450, which in turn means, on Sep 20th, there were approx 12250 (14000 - 1750) applicants from 401 to 432 range.

As it has been 1 week, the pool is filling up again and we can fairly assume that below be condition of the pool as of 27th Sep.
0601 - 1200 >> 110
0450 - 0600 >> 290
0401 - 0450 >> 13200

By next week it will look something like this:
0601 - 1200 >> 180
0450 - 0600 >> 620
0401 - 0450 >> 14000+

So unless, there is one intermediate draw to flush off the 450 above applicants, usually of < 1000 applicants per draw, we can assume that if the applicant count of next draw is again ~ 2800, and is conducted on 4th Oct, the cut off limit will not budge much and will be +/- 2 points max as it is very crowded below 430 range.
In case the draw is performed on 11th, there will be definite spike in the cut off.
So at this moment, for next couple of draws, I don't see folks below 430 getting ITA if applicant count per draw remains the same viz: < 3000.

Told you, not gonna sugar coat it. Will present the facts and predict as per my logic :)
 
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Ornela Forsyte

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You bet, it will. It must!!

@Wacky1.nash, where are you holed up these days?
@Ornela Forsyte, and you Anne of Green Gables?
Hello... :D
Good to hear you are back again :)
Sorry for not being much around like i used to. Submitted my PR application, now trying to not overthink it and gaining the right pace at work,
I kind of miss the time i spent being lame and idle because of the application. :)
And you? what have you been doing all this time?
As always, all the best :)
 

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Don't want to be a party pooper here and I know hope is needed but I seriously doubt the cut off score will fall under 430 (let's say 420 to be optimistic). Retake the IELTS if you feel you can improve your score. Waiting for a huge drop can take forever. Just my 2 cents
 
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Wandering Mind

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Don't want to be a party pooper here and I know hope is needed but I seriously doubt the cut off score will fall under 430 (let's say 420 to be optimistic). Retake the IELTS if you feel you can improve your score. Waiting for a huge drop can take forever. Just my 2 cents
Thank you for sharing your opinion. I agree with you completely that each of us must do everything we can to increase our score.

But having said that, the fact remains that there seems to be no method to the madness - we can only speculate and propagate conspiracy theories about IRCC's methods but no one knows for sure how the immigration system works.

Less than a year ago, everyone said the score would never drop below 450, and when it did the same people said it won't go below 430 and so on and so forth.

I read a great post by @fatani saying that the pool is dynamic and CRS cutoffs depend on the number of applicants currently sitting in the pool and not on IRCC's whims and fancies. I'll send you the link when I find it.

Anyway, good luck to all of us. May we all get what we're waiting for.
 

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Less than a year ago, everyone said the score would never drop below 450, and when it did the same people said it won't go below 430 and so on and so forth.

I read a great post by @fatani saying that the pool is dynamic and CRS cutoffs depend on the number of applicants currently sitting in the pool and not on IRCC's whims and fancies. I'll send you the link when I find it.

Anyway, good luck to all of us. May we all get what we're waiting for.
Immigration changed. The job points for example. People who didn't have a job offer were always at the bottom of the pool. Yoy can't compare a 430 this year with a 430 last year.
 

Zakaria223

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Hello guys,
i have applied for PR in express entry and my application shows that my medical is passed but since yesterday it is also showing NOT APPLICABLE for Background check? Does anyone knows what does that mean?

TIA
 

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Hello guys,
i have applied for PR in express entry and my application shows that my medical is passed but since yesterday it is also showing NOT APPLICABLE for Background check? Does anyone knows what does that mean?

TIA
It's normal.
 

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Immigration changed. The job points for example. People who didn't have a job offer were always at the bottom of the pool. Yoy can't compare a 430 this year with a 430 last year.
This is exactly what @Wandering Mind is saying. You cannot compare YoY stats. Each year's logic is different then the previous ones. Considering the drastic drop in the CRS during 2017, it can be assumed that the same would happen again if all the scenarios remain unchanged.

In addition to this, the quota for the new immigrants had also increased for this year which puts a lot of pressure on increasing the number of ITAs (ignore the PRs).

We believe that CRS can drop suddenly to its lowest levels once 2018 quota is announced.

P:S: There's no data to support our opinion. These are just logical assumptions.
 

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This is exactly what @Wandering Mind is saying. You cannot compare YoY stats. Each year's logic is different then the previous ones. Considering the drastic drop in the CRS during 2017, it can be assumed that the same would happen again if all the scenarios remain unchanged.

In addition to this, the quota for the new immigrants had also increased for this year which puts a lot of pressure on increasing the number of ITAs (ignore the PRs).

We believe that CRS can drop suddenly to its lowest levels once 2018 quota is announced.

P:S: There's no data to support our opinion. These are just logical assumptions.
He compared that people said it would never drop under 450 last year whereas it does now because the points system changed. Don't forget there's now extra points for siblings and french since June, so the pool constitution changed as well. There will always be "better" profiles joining in the pool daily. But yes I agree if they need to fill the 2017 quota that's when cutoff will change as they'll maybe need a larger number of people. I'm just saying instead of waiting around and hoping better be proactive. My profile isn't that "special" I'm married, (people always assume that makes your points drop but that's bullshit) over 30, I have 2 diplomas, worked for 4 years etc... Nothing special. So i believe it's feasible. The only difference is I scored high on my IELTS. From the forum posts written by most of the people on the forum, you can immediately tell they don't have a good enough English level and that is the one thing that can be greatly improved. Not only will that largely increase the CRS score it will also be needed when settling in Canada so no harm in working on that while waiting. Again, it's nice to be hopeful, but reality is slightly different.
 

hamgha

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This is exactly what @Wandering Mind is saying. You cannot compare YoY stats. Each year's logic is different then the previous ones. Considering the drastic drop in the CRS during 2017, it can be assumed that the same would happen again if all the scenarios remain unchanged.

In addition to this, the quota for the new immigrants had also increased for this year which puts a lot of pressure on increasing the number of ITAs (ignore the PRs).

We believe that CRS can drop suddenly to its lowest levels once 2018 quota is announced.

P:S: There's no data to support our opinion. These are just logical assumptions.
Note that I don't consider it a "drop" in CRS, but a change in calculations.