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Ray of Hope 66th Draw

ravleen

Hero Member
May 20, 2017
716
333
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4021
AOR Received.
23 September 2018
Med's Done....
23 October 2018
I have one question, please take out some time to go through my condition and help me out in it
I had been worked in a company for around 3.5 years starting from May 2013 till July 2016 and when i left the company, they issued and experience letter to me stating my date of joining, my designation when i started working, all the promotions and the date when I left. On the basis of that experience which comes under NOC 4021 (vocational trainers), I applied for PR through a consultancy firm. I again joined back that company in March 2017, as per the instructions of my consultant, and I am working there till date. Now, that I have got an ITA, i asked for my experience letter again from the company requesting them to mention my job duties also in the experience letter, i.e. under the letter head of the company. After so many pleadings to them, they have issued me an experience letter all the above details and in addition to this, the KRA's of my job (not in details) that I performed during the period of May 2013 till July 2016 and my current designation in the company along with the date of joining. Apart from this, I also have the bank statements for all the years as throughout my stay with the company, my salary used to come in my salary account that was opened by the company itself in ICICI bank, I also have form 16's from the company.
I am doubtful because someone told me that if I won't have the detailed job duties on my experience letter, there are chances they won't grant me the visa because the visa officers will think that all the above proofs are fake, I again had a word with my company, but, now they have clearly said that they won't provide anything extra after this, now I am really scared and don't have any idea what to do.
Please help me out in this, I will be really thankful to you.
 

KingKurly

Champion Member
Jan 25, 2017
1,083
2,217
Kathmandu
Category........
NOC Code......
4033
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
i totally agree with you, in my first attempt i had L9 R8 S8 W6.5 in my second attempt, L9 R 8 S 6 W 7 i can't believe how could i deteriorate my speaking skill by 2 bands in 3 months
It seems absolutely ridiculous. No way speaking skill can dive down by 2 bands in 3 months. Reading and Listening can, but Writing and Speaking no way. My writing went down only cos of my stupid mistake to use cheap pencil instead of pen. In your case mate! I think the mood of examiner must have been the deciding factor.
 
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KingKurly

Champion Member
Jan 25, 2017
1,083
2,217
Kathmandu
Category........
NOC Code......
4033
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Hi All,

I am new to the forum and wish everyone the best for the next draws as everything is getting so unpredictable. My CRS was 395 and after the 6th June changes its 410 (sibling score). I was just wondering if I should recreate my profile for getting a nomination from Ontario or should I wait for next few draws to get an ITA?

Also just to add here that I answered the research questions and got sibling points after signing the form. Before, the score section for sibling had been empty.
You and i are in a very similar situation. Got the sibling point too. But as you are 7 points ahead, very likely you will receive ITA in couple of draws if not the next one. But just to be on the safe side, as it is already half way through the year, having a NOI will be a plan B. Hence i am going to recreate my profile tonight. Even if you get affected by the CRS tie-break, waiting one more draw wouldn't be that bad rite! Good luck :)
 

at_tahira

Full Member
Jun 6, 2017
20
14
Bangalore
NOC Code......
0113
I have one question, please take out some time to go through my condition and help me out in it
I had been worked in a company for around 3.5 years starting from May 2013 till July 2016 and when i left the company, they issued and experience letter to me stating my date of joining, my designation when i started working, all the promotions and the date when I left. On the basis of that experience which comes under NOC 4021 (vocational trainers), I applied for PR through a consultancy firm. I again joined back that company in March 2017, as per the instructions of my consultant, and I am working there till date. Now, that I have got an ITA, i asked for my experience letter again from the company requesting them to mention my job duties also in the experience letter, i.e. under the letter head of the company. After so many pleadings to them, they have issued me an experience letter all the above details and in addition to this, the KRA's of my job (not in details) that I performed during the period of May 2013 till July 2016 and my current designation in the company along with the date of joining. Apart from this, I also have the bank statements for all the years as throughout my stay with the company, my salary used to come in my salary account that was opened by the company itself in ICICI bank, I also have form 16's from the company.
I am doubtful because someone told me that if I won't have the detailed job duties on my experience letter, there are chances they won't grant me the visa because the visa officers will think that all the above proofs are fake, I again had a word with my company, but, now they have clearly said that they won't provide anything extra after this, now I am really scared and don't have any idea what to do.
Please help me out in this, I will be really thankful to you.
You can get an affidavit done (from a lawyer) by providing all information in affidavit letter (on rs.100 stamp paper) and attach all relevant documents (salary slips, letters from co. and other documents whichever you feel are relevant to show your experience and other details). I had to do this when my previous company refused to provide the experience letter. I have attached the co. refusal letter as well to the affidavit along with above mentioned docs.
 
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ravleen

Hero Member
May 20, 2017
716
333
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4021
AOR Received.
23 September 2018
Med's Done....
23 October 2018
You can get an affidavit done (from a lawyer) by providing all information in affidavit letter (on rs.100 stamp paper) and attach all relevant documents (salary slips, letters from co. and other documents whichever you feel are relevant to show your experience and other details). I had to do this when my previous company refused to provide the experience letter. I have attached the co. refusal letter as well to the affidavit along with above mentioned docs.
thanks a ton for your reply, just one more thing, is it important that your experience should be relevant to your education, if both of them do not match with each other, there are no chances of getting a visa?
 

M DEV

Hero Member
May 2, 2017
450
266
It seems absolutely ridiculous. No way speaking skill can dive down by 2 bands in 3 months. Reading and Listening can, but Writing and Speaking no way. My writing went down only cos of my stupid mistake to use cheap pencil instead of pen. In your case mate! I think the mood of examiner must have been the deciding factor.
Should we write with pen..I mean i always write with pencil
 

lino82

Hero Member
Apr 12, 2017
817
2,463
NOC Code......
0121
I have one question, please take out some time to go through my condition and help me out in it
I had been worked in a company for around 3.5 years starting from May 2013 till July 2016 and when i left the company, they issued and experience letter to me stating my date of joining, my designation when i started working, all the promotions and the date when I left. On the basis of that experience which comes under NOC 4021 (vocational trainers), I applied for PR through a consultancy firm. I again joined back that company in March 2017, as per the instructions of my consultant, and I am working there till date. Now, that I have got an ITA, i asked for my experience letter again from the company requesting them to mention my job duties also in the experience letter, i.e. under the letter head of the company. After so many pleadings to them, they have issued me an experience letter all the above details and in addition to this, the KRA's of my job (not in details) that I performed during the period of May 2013 till July 2016 and my current designation in the company along with the date of joining. Apart from this, I also have the bank statements for all the years as throughout my stay with the company, my salary used to come in my salary account that was opened by the company itself in ICICI bank, I also have form 16's from the company.
I am doubtful because someone told me that if I won't have the detailed job duties on my experience letter, there are chances they won't grant me the visa because the visa officers will think that all the above proofs are fake, I again had a word with my company, but, now they have clearly said that they won't provide anything extra after this, now I am really scared and don't have any idea what to do.
Please help me out in this, I will be really thankful to you.
You seem to have one of the better reference letters to say...it is difficult to get cos from India to mention any details other than joining,relieving date and designation...
details required are from date /to date / Designation/duties and responsibilities /remuneration /mention that your were a permanent employee and worked not less than 30hrs per week...
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Now with the Form 16s and bank statements will surely support...further ,you may get a reference letter from either your supervisor in his personal capacity stating all your duties and responsibilities, Designation etc ...you get it notarized by an advocate and also collect his official id card and visiting card copies...
this is what has been suggested by seniors several times in this forum before...
Along with the letters from HR,add this reference letter ,ID card and visiting card copies and write a letter of explanation...
when you are scanning the reference letter, do as a single PDF file in the order of HR Refernce letter /Supervisor or colleague Refernce letter / offer letter/appointment letter / form16
mention in ur LOE that HR refused to elaborate the KRA and hence you've attached a reference from supervisor.
 
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lino82

Hero Member
Apr 12, 2017
817
2,463
NOC Code......
0121
Should we write with pen..I mean i always write with pencil
the writing section can be done in either pen or pencil...I did mine in pen...only OMRs are required to be mandatorily done in pencil...(for listening and reading )
don't you think it will be easier to write with a blue pen...if you have a nice handwriting an essay written with a blue pen will look nicer...and no matter how objectively they assess,visual appeal may influence the marking as they have points for content depth which is left to the judgement of the evaluator...
 

arrayofhope

Hero Member
Jan 14, 2017
296
39
CANADA
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
5227
App. Filed.......
07-06-2016
AOR Received.
18/05/2017
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
04-15-2017
I have one question, please take out some time to go through my condition and help me out in it
I had been worked in a company for around 3.5 years starting from May 2013 till July 2016 and when i left the company, they issued and experience letter to me stating my date of joining, my designation when i started working, all the promotions and the date when I left. On the basis of that experience which comes under NOC 4021 (vocational trainers), I applied for PR through a consultancy firm. I again joined back that company in March 2017, as per the instructions of my consultant, and I am working there till date. Now, that I have got an ITA, i asked for my experience letter again from the company requesting them to mention my job duties also in the experience letter, i.e. under the letter head of the company. After so many pleadings to them, they have issued me an experience letter all the above details and in addition to this, the KRA's of my job (not in details) that I performed during the period of May 2013 till July 2016 and my current designation in the company along with the date of joining. Apart from this, I also have the bank statements for all the years as throughout my stay with the company, my salary used to come in my salary account that was opened by the company itself in ICICI bank, I also have form 16's from the company.
I am doubtful because someone told me that if I won't have the detailed job duties on my experience letter, there are chances they won't grant me the visa because the visa officers will think that all the above proofs are fake, I again had a word with my company, but, now they have clearly said that they won't provide anything extra after this, now I am really scared and don't have any idea what to do.
Please help me out in this, I will be really thankful to you.
There are some key things you have to prove with your reference letters.
1) Duties and Responsibilities - List at least 4 or 5 of the most skilled aspects of your job. This is absolutely necessary to show that your experience aligns with the NOC code you have chosen.
2) No. of hours worked per week. They will use this to ensure that you have the required amount of hours for the points that you have claimed.
3) Salary details - It has to be paid employment otherwise you cannot claim points.
4) Don't forget to include all the other required details such as address, phone no., email, date etc. ( Refer to the CIC website for the details )

If your employer is unwilling to provide you with the necessary details, request this info from your supervisor or colleague and have it notarized. You may attach bank statements, tax statements etc etc. but all that is required is just one reference letter(assuming it includes all the required details) !! Any additional paperwork you attach will need additional verification and hence will take more time. Do this only if you are unable to get all the necessary details in the reference letter.
 

ravleen

Hero Member
May 20, 2017
716
333
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4021
AOR Received.
23 September 2018
Med's Done....
23 October 2018
You seem to have one of the better reference letters to say...it is difficult to get cos from India to mention any details other than joining,relieving date and designation...
details required are from date /to date / Designation/duties and responsibilities /remuneration /mention that your were a permanent employee and worked not less than 30hrs per week...
---
Now with the Form 16s and bank statements will surely support...further ,you may get a reference letter from either your supervisor in his personal capacity stating all your duties and responsibilities, Designation etc ...you get it notarized by an advocate and also collect his official id card and visiting card copies...
this is what has been suggested by seniors several times in this forum before...
Along with the letters from HR,add this reference letter ,ID card and visiting card copies and write a letter of explanation...
when you are scanning the reference letter, do as a single PDF file in the order of HR Refernce letter /Supervisor or colleague Refernce letter / offer letter/appointment letter / form16
mention in ur LOE that HR refused to elaborate the KRA and hence you've attached a reference from supervisor.
I do have the contract copies also with me stating that I was a full time employee of the company which also mentions salary in it, will that work/?
And one more thing, is it important that your experience should be relevant to your education, if both of them do not match with each other, there are no chances of getting a visa?
 

Vinsoni09

Star Member
May 16, 2017
77
38
I received a mail yesterday from CIC. When checked my EE profile it was showing ineligible. They have given UCI number also to me and my spouse. Think to recreate it today. Please let me know shall I mentioned that I have applied for PR early or not?
 

at_tahira

Full Member
Jun 6, 2017
20
14
Bangalore
NOC Code......
0113
thanks a ton for your reply, just one more thing, is it important that your experience should be relevant to your education, if both of them do not match with each other, there are no chances of getting a visa?
you are welcome!
No, I don't think they will assess the experience based on education background.
 
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